Feature Request: Minimize Gathering Yield

Recently I've been doing a lot of collectibles to level my DoH, which requires me to fly all around the world and gather a ton of different materials. Usually I try to gather exact amounts of what I need so that I don't have a bunch of single items that sell for 3 gil cluttering up my inventory, but random Gatherer's Boon and increased yields from bonuses and high stats can make that difficult.

So, I would appreciate a new ability for Miner and Botanist that negates all bonuses, increased yields, and Gatherer's Boon effects, so I can guarantee that I only collect single instances of an item with each use of integrity. Call it "Exacting Eye" or something.

I might be alone in wanting this, and it might seem like a pointless addition since I'm basically forefeiting free gil...

...but it would make my brain feel good :confused:

I'm confused. Most collectable nodes only have collectables as a gatherable item, and you can only get 1 per integrity. I don't see why you'd need to gather other materials at all.

Crafted collectables for DoH, sorry. They require just normal items you can get from gathering. Normal nodes still use integrity to determine how much you can gather.

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Originally Posted by NegativeS

Crafted collectables for DoH, sorry. They require just normal items you can get from gathering.

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Ohh alright, gotcha. That makes much more sense. Hmmn, it's a pickle, because you'd also have to get rid of the base % chance to proc an extra item. But considering they already do that for crystals/gathering collectables, I don't see why not.

Yeah I completely get the feeling. When I need a multiple of 5 and then get an extra I just want to reeeee. I'll gather more to make it even. Or just sell off/discard the remainder. But I can see not wanting to have to do that all the time.

Wouldn't it be easier to just split what bothers you and discard it? I feel like something like this is too niche. I guess also you could sell it if you think it's worth putting up on the market, hence helping someone who might need the material...

Did I understand you correctly?

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Originally Posted by Rueby

Wouldn't it be easier to just split what bothers you and discard it? I feel like something like this is too niche.

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I mean, in my eyes it wouldn't be too different than the Release/Release List that Fisher already has. A convenience that can be done mid-gather instead of having to waste extra time going into the inventory and divvying up items, or going to a merchant/retainer to sell the extras after the crafts are done. The time needed to do so doesn't seem like much for one item or craft, but adds up quickly if you're me, crafting 2000 collectibles across all DoH to get them all to 100.

I guess the Release stuff makes more sense on Fisher since you can't directly choose what items you get, but I feel like it would be a convenience in the same vein.

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Originally Posted by Rueby

I guess also you could sell it if you think it's worth putting up on the market, hence helping someone who might need the material...

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Well, I personally think that the 60 gil I'd be getting from marketing my 3 extra Cobalt Ore isn't worth it taking up space in my retainer's sell list that could be occupied by materia, aethersand, or glamour... and the 6 gil I'd be getting from vendoring it is not even worth rent for the 1-2 hrs it spends in my inventory.

Why do so many recipes in DT need Cobalt Ore, anyway? Bluefog is going to be a 5-malm-deep crater in Thanalan by the time 8.0 comes around...

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Originally Posted by NegativeS

Well, I personally think that the 60 gil I'd be getting from marketing my 3 extra Cobalt Ore isn't worth it taking up space in my retainer's sell list that could be occupied by materia, aethersand, or glamour... and the 6 gil I'd be getting from vendoring it is not even worth rent for the 1-2 hrs it spends in my inventory.

Why do so many recipes in DT need Cobalt Ore, anyway? Bluefog is going to be a 5-malm-deep crater in Thanalan by the time 8.0 comes around...

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there is this neat feature.. called 'Discard'

is already in game anyway and requires a right click on the item and then clicking discard. easy peasy.

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

there is this neat feature.. called 'Discard'

is already in game anyway and requires a right click on the item and then clicking discard. easy peasy.

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https://i.imgur.com/WOcJjtR.png

I just honestly wouldnt trust SE to try and implement this without screwing up something major.. like all harvesting.

I brought a suggestion for this very thing up nearly three years ago when they changed the DoL system into its current iteration.

QoL Suggestion for Single Item Gathering

It of course fell on deaf ears, as YoshiP's team puts little to no real estate into anything outside the JP forums. I can't imagine it being a difficult task to program a new skill that simply negates the bonuses, but what do I know. I just play games. I don't code them.

Honestly though, you're asking for dev time to be spent on something that is in effect no different from you just discarding any extras you don't want. That's not a great use of dev time.

Actually before they implement this, could they make it so I could turn in all my collectables at once rather than 1 at a time? That'll save much more time.

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Originally Posted by Rongway

Honestly though, you're asking for dev time to be spent on something that is in effect no different from you just discarding any extras you don't want. That's not a great use of dev time.

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private gcd(GatherOneAlways){

while(player.GatherStats.gathering == true && activeNode.GatherStats.integrity > 0 && activeNode.GatherStats.isCollectible == false){

player.GatherStats.bonus = 0;

player.GatherStats.boon = 0;

}

}

Anyone at Squeenix wanna hire me? I got plenty more C# spaghetti where that came from.

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Originally Posted by hydralus

Actually before they implement this, could they make it so I could turn in all my collectables at once rather than 1 at a time? That'll save much more time.

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These terms are acceptable.

I'd personally rather see xiv dev resources spent on more important things.

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Originally Posted by 1313

I'd personally rather see xiv dev resources spent on more important things.

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You're right, highly likely they'll never touch any of the gatherers again for the rest of XIV's lifespan...

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Originally Posted by hydralus

Actually before they implement this, could they make it so I could turn in all my collectables at once rather than 1 at a time? That'll save much more time.

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While we're floating our ideal minor QoL changes, could I also have the option to just not craft HQ items when doing a giant quick synthesis stack? If I don't need the HQ versions for what I'm making, I'm probably going to just manually lower the quality and combine the stacks, but having the ability to not craft the HQ in the first place means it takes up only one inventory space while crafting a stack, instead of potentially two (for the NQ and HQ stacks).

They could have something in the vein of a backwards pick clean- remove the boon% for more hits on the node. Number of increased hits depends on perception. It’d need a bit of thought put into balance, but would function for this and also could see a use beyond. Maybe scaling so you get more from +2 bonus nodes using this and king’s yield or whatever the king’s per hit is called.

Yes please.

I'd like the same for quick-crafting to turn off HQs. Especially making submarine parts it's so annoying to have to do the whole lower quality and re-stack moves in what are already very messy crafting bags.

(Edit: Heh, see the awesome Packetdancer said the same thing about HQ, I really should read the second page next time)