FF16 Summoner concept is already good why not just implement it in FFXIV..
I know different games different gameplays.. but the core idea is perfect
can we just have turn summoner into melee while in ifrit or titan Bahamut and Phenix is range caster?
I think it would be cool if we just get the concept and just do it
FF16 Summoner vs FF14 Summoner
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08-04-2024, 02:05 AMTundaFF16 Summoner vs FF14 Summoner
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08-04-2024, 02:07 AMNegativeS
Live RDM reaction:
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08-04-2024, 02:08 AMTundaI think they should double down on RDM melee to have more than 1 melee comboQuote:
Originally Posted by NegativeS
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08-04-2024, 02:16 AMJeeqbit
If they go the skill tree / talent route which they've mentioned as an example... we could see something like it.
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08-04-2024, 02:27 AMTundaskill tree will destroy the current system..Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeeqbit
I don't believe that Yoshi team will do huge changes other than animation and VFX but not the gameplay -
08-04-2024, 02:34 AMDyvidYou literally have this right now. Garuda gives access to her abilities, Titan, Ifrit, Phoenix, Bahamut, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tunda
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08-04-2024, 02:41 AMMaxilor
If the rumors about Beastmaster are true...this is essentially what it's going to be, except with Feral Souls or whatever.
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08-04-2024, 02:54 AMTundaLol its notQuote:
Originally Posted by Dyvid
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08-04-2024, 02:55 AMTundaI think it will be just like blue mage, nothing crazy not enough customization just strict gameplay for limited job lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Maxilor
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08-04-2024, 02:57 AMDrForester
The answer is FFXI Summoner.
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08-04-2024, 03:02 AMThemarvin
The Answer is FFX Summoner - Yuna paves the way...
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08-04-2024, 03:08 AMJeeqbitNot if the skill tree options are all virtually glamours and amount to the same thing. Which is arguably how FF16 is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tunda
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08-04-2024, 04:04 AMTundaif you mean summoner i don't think so fam..Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeeqbit
gameplay differences between titan and ifrit are so huge it is not even the same character -
08-04-2024, 04:50 AMRekh
ffxvi's system's inferior. Actually summoning the summon is always the better way, and it's FF's way of doing so historically. You can even go melee with the attacks you gain from Ifrit; so that isn't unique to xvi. The problem with xiv's summoner is the lack of summons, the over reliance on bahamut for everything, and the sleep inducing rotation. Pictomancer's rotation should be a basis for how they should redesign summoner; you should be making decisions and have options/resources that you spend when you feel like it.
When we told them we wanted to summon the summon we weren't asking for a rotation of ifrit, garuda, and titan back to back like you're throwing candy during halloween. A better rotation is one where the summoner itself has his/her own actions to build up a job gauge to summon the summon that excells at certain situations. We don't need to see ifrit, garuda, and titan back to back like we're showing off toys or something. If I want to summon Ifrit for an entire duty because he fits the situation the best allow me to do that.
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08-04-2024, 05:02 AMJeeqbitGot to disagree there. Spending most of the time "building up" to a single summon just... took away from how it's meant to be an actual summoner. In traditional FF games they absolutely just summon them back-to-back like that, and it feels great to play now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rekh
However, I agree it could use more summons and not over-rely on Bahamut, or take really any of the features FF16 summons have.