Let me Veto the Nier Raid

They're so bad.
It's the worst Alliance Raid you can get from the Alliance Roulette, it's always such a drag to get those worthless raids. They're long, slow & boring.

Typical Ancient Labyrinth and Sycrus tower enjoyer.

The only issue with them is that the bosses have too much HP. Personally, I find them fun, but I agree that they take too long to finish.

Let me veto Syrcus Tower. No, not the other two, just Syrcus. It's the most boring raid in the roulette, AND the glams are ugly as sin.

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Originally Posted by genuine_stranger

The only issue with them is that the bosses have too much HP. Personally, I find them fun, but I agree that they take too long to finish.

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Which is a huge and gigantic issue.

I queued in the third nier rad last week and it took over an hour to complete. The next time I see it I'll eat the 30min.

I prefer the nier raids, solely for the music there. I could listen to them for days

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Originally Posted by Raven2014

Which is a huge and gigantic issue.

I queued in the third nier rad last week and it took over an hour to complete. The next time I see it I'll eat the 30min.

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....How? No, really, how did that happen? Even with the inflated HP, they never took that long, even at launch when nobody knew what we were doing.

Limit it to one veto per roulette per day to prevent abuse and avoid burdening newer players with unreasonable queue times. I'm thoroughly sick of Syrcus Tower myself, and the Nier raid is way too long.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

AND the glams are ugly as sin.

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Except for Amon's Pimp Hat.

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Originally Posted by Raven2014

Which is a huge and gigantic issue.

I queued in the third nier rad last week and it took over an hour to complete. The next time I see it I'll eat the 30min.

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If it took you an hour to clear any of them, there are some other issues going on.

Also they're some of the most fun alliance raids.

Ivalice > Nier >>>>>>>>>> Void Ark > Myths of the Realm > ARR

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Originally Posted by Maxilor

Except for Amon's Pimp Hat.

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You're saying this to a viera...

Also *cries in no pimp hat hrothgar*

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Originally Posted by Raven2014

Which is a huge and gigantic issue.

I queued in the third nier rad last week and it took over an hour to complete. The next time I see it I'll eat the 30min.

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Ok, I have to ask: How?
The longest it took me was about 45 min. Like, ever.

But yeah, they take too long. I had hoped that the potency creep would mitigate the time it takes to finish them. But it seems that the ilvl sync works too well for the NieR raids.

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Originally Posted by genuine_stranger

they take too long to finish.

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Yep, my chief complaint about the Nier raids, and pretty much the reason ppl were ilvl cheesing. The mechanics aren't the issue, they just take too long.

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Originally Posted by AstreaLove

They're so bad.
It's the worst Alliance Raid you can get from the Alliance Roulette, it's always such a drag to get those worthless raids. They're long, slow & boring.

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Let me veto the veto. People who complain about it are the ones who usually die. As a healer, their suffering entertains me.

No thanks. After a year of getting almost only Crystal Tower, it's refreshing to get these now.

If you want Roulette rewards, you take what you get. Or you can leave voluntarily and deal with the lockout timer.

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Originally Posted by koko-on-da-forumz

If it took you an hour to clear any of them, there are some other issues going on.

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Well of course, and I think that problem is it has 24 peoples. When the fight drag out that long I bet by the 2nd boss probably half of the raid are mentally checked out.

Adding the fact it rarely show up and a lot of people don't remember mechanic = lots of deaths.

Trade offer: Move some of the HP from Nier Raids to ARR and HW Raids.

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Originally Posted by ThaCa

Trade offer: Move some of the HP from Nier Raids to ARR and HW Raids.

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Better: rebalance all raid hp values so we can properly see the intended mechanics (plz squenix)

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Originally Posted by AstreaLove

They're so bad.
It's the worst Alliance Raid you can get from the Alliance Roulette, it's always such a drag to get those worthless raids. They're long, slow & boring.

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Glad someone finally said.

The only available raid in the game should be Syrcus Tower and nothing else.

The last 5 Raids i got was "World of Darkness" so i feel more negativly about that one at the moment :p
In general i like all Raids when i dont have to see them constantly.

They could always fix the nier raids... Just take all the bosses, drop their health by like 50%, and they'd be more bearable.

I have just been eating the penalty. I have other things I can do, doesn't bother me.

The roulettes exist to complete groups for players who want to do certain content; in exchange for you filling the gaps in a party, you get some bonus rewards.

It's up to you to decide whether the payout is worth the risk of being put in a duty you dislike. If it's not worth it, then don't queue for the roulette and instead queue the content you want to play.

As long as I get to veto a raid series I don't like.

The Nier raids are definitely hot garbage. They're boring mechanically. Ontop of having insane health bloat on all the bosses; it's all just an amusement park for the Nier games so it takes 10 eons to get from boss to boss. The raids feel designed specifically to eat up as much of your time as possible. The Tank boss in the first one, after you kill you sit there waiting for the gate to open. That one spider robot boss in the second one specifically, why does it need to sit there for an entire minute before you can even be allowed to fight. The third one wastes your time with the 2P add fight. It's all so miserable.

Dun Scaith is still the peak of A-raids. Cool bosses, cool set design, neat mechanics, and it respects your time.

If I could pick three alliance raids to block, I'd choose Syrcus Tower (it's boring and the glams are ugly), the Tower at Paradigm's Breech (the white-on-gray-on-off-white color pallet with sudden flashes of red gives me a headache), and the third Endwalker raid (so disinterested in this one that I can't even bother to remember the name).

Maybe they should buff the rewards again lol
I love the Nier raids personally and I'm always happy to get ANYTHING level 60 and above. Very few jobs feel good at 50 to play IMO.

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Originally Posted by St0rmy

Dun Scaith is still the peak of A-raids. Cool bosses, cool set design, neat mechanics, and it respects your time.

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YES! <3

Dun Scaith is honestly my favorite A-raid in the game.

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Originally Posted by St0rmy

The Nier raids are definitely hot garbage. They're boring mechanically. Ontop of having insane health bloat on all the bosses; it's all just an amusement park for the Nier games so it takes 10 eons to get from boss to boss. The raids feel designed specifically to eat up as much of your time as possible. The Tank boss in the first one, after you kill you sit there waiting for the gate to open. That one spider robot boss in the second one specifically, why does it need to sit there for an entire minute before you can even be allowed to fight. The third one wastes your time with the 2P add fight. It's all so miserable.

Dun Scaith is still the peak of A-raids. Cool bosses, cool set design, neat mechanics, and it respects your time.

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Yes, I love whenever I get that raid and people forget to pop their anti knockback and get blown off the platform, lol.

Always funny to see 3/4 of the alliance die in one swoop.

I once saw 23 people blown off the ship in one shot. I was the only survivor. I was too busy laughing to jump off myself, but the next attack killed me anyway.

I'll take longer alliance raid any days.

Y'all already have your 'faster shorter' duties everywhere else. Let me have these. :P

i wouldnt mind if they gave all the a-raid bosses more health so we dont skip so many mechanics everywhere

Only if they let me black list ARR and Heavensward raid too, I can't see them in picture anymore.

EDIT : Or even better let me pick a raid series of my choice, couldn't careless if it make the queue time longer for me.

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Originally Posted by Lck0ut

Better: rebalance all raid hp values so we can properly see the intended mechanics (plz squenix)

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Or, just remake the ARR alliance and normal raids. Both are important for the story, and they already did remake a few dungeons for the sake of it.

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Originally Posted by genuine_stranger

The only issue with them is that the bosses have too much HP.

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Ive only done them once, and i was sooo bored out of my fricken mind, every fight id just tab away and afk after the boss was only down to 75% hp.
but now that u say this, i think that must have been it. it did feel like it was taking forever, but like i said, I was afk, watching youtube videos instead, so my sense of time was off.
I refuse to even unlock the raid on my alts, and regret unlocking it on my main. so much so, ill never sign up for a roulette ever. and still havent since ShB.

The ARR raids are too fast and easy. The Nier raids are too long and slow. The rest of them are fine.

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Originally Posted by AstreaLove

They're so bad.
It's the worst Alliance Raid you can get from the Alliance Roulette, it's always such a drag to get those worthless raids. They're long, slow & boring.

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Agreed. Depressing, unimmersive, and un-fun bosses.

Going slightly off topic but it would be nice if they gave the faux hollow treatment to alliance raid with new rewards like unique glam/minion/mount.

I think all the alliance raids (except Nier) should have their HP increased. You WILL see all the mechanics and you WILL LEARN YOUR PRIMES!

I don’t mind the first two Nier raids though I am not a fan of Nier stuff in FFXIV. However, I abandon the last Nier raid the second it pops on my main (it’s the only raid I don’t unlock on alts) because it gives me a headache, blurry vision and nausea. I wish I had never unlocked that raid as it pops regularly on my DC at the times I play. An option to remove a single duty per day would be great

I usually queue ARRs on a healer and I find that there are quite a lot of insta deaths in CT raids. I found myself to be the sole survivor of my alliance yesterday after everyone else got doom on the eye boss and failed to cleanse it. Same with Cerby: he killed 4 full sized people trying to get in the belly. I also regularly get Ivalice raids in the roulette and they are my favourite. I just wish they had not been nerfed so hard.

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Originally Posted by weebtext

I think all the alliance raids (except Nier) should have their HP increased. You WILL see all the mechanics and you WILL LEARN YOUR PRIMES!

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I wouldn’t increase HP (damage sponges are no fun) but I’d make mechanics more punishing. Don’t know your prime numbers? That’s worth an insta death.