Has anyone beat the warrior faction leve and could give info about how you beat it -.-?
edit: friends just won with whm strat.
warrior faction leve help
Printable View
-
07-31-2012, 06:37 PMTatsuguywarrior faction leve help
-
07-31-2012, 07:13 PMseuki
-
07-31-2012, 07:15 PMTatsuguy
That guide is incorrect the third set of mobs will always pop now regardless if you kill first two fast enough.
and i dont want to see link of 3 blm video but thanks if you were going to suggest it ^^
edit: 3blm 1war looks like the way to go though >.< even though that itself is exploiting the game some what, i think they made this leve too hard lol -
07-31-2012, 07:55 PMCrimzon
Yes the old guides/strats/videos are outdated since 1.23 since they patched it so you will now get 3 waves regardless.
I feel it was already the hardest of the 7 leves before the patch and now, in my opinion it is harder than the ifrit battle itself.
We tried many different strategies, the one that ultimately won for us believe it or not was WAR WHMx3. Each WHM would take turns casting Holyx2 (via Presence of Mind) on each wave. The WAR would Steel Cyclone & other WHMs cast Aerora.
It was still very close and not sure how feasible this strat is to the general public since all 3 of the WHMs had finished Relic weapons so their Holy damage was increased. After the 3 waves were dead, we would run out to shed hate, have 1 swap to BLM and 1 to WAR.
I have seen many groups try with 3 BLM and leashing them back and forth, but I feel this cant be the intended mechanic and seems to be very luck based anyway whether you can even come close to finishing them off this way in time. -
07-31-2012, 08:06 PMTatsuguyYeah we've tried the 3 whm method you described earlier and it's just not enough to take down the adds for us.. but for the 3blm method we've just seen a group go in with and beat it twice so i have hopes in beating it soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crimzon
This leve is most certainly the most difficult but if you're using the 3 blm method it's mostly about execution, three firiga and the crit ability is enough to take down one wave of mobs. -
07-31-2012, 10:01 PMXavierBlade
When I did it to help an LS mate we did 2 BLM, 1 THM, 1 WAR, and changed to: WAR WAR WAR WHM for last mob.
Won with about 35 seconds left.
Also: try rotating resonance pulls when the WAR is recovering HP (after a few pulls or so).
Edit: This leve is not by far the hardest... you obviously have not done the Monk / BLM FNM. -
07-31-2012, 10:23 PMCrimzonI have done all of them. Multiple times. BLM leve is challenging but not to this extent. MNK leve is a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by XavierBlade
-
07-31-2012, 10:40 PMReq
If you are trying to do the leve as "SE Intended" then the setup is more than likely pld, war, blm, whm. A warrior simply cannot tank these things and I think that is a big error alot of people are making when trying to do this leve. The mobs die fairly quickly, I would assume that the strategy was intended to be something like PLD Flash, establish hate quickly War and blm spam AoEs to burn them down. I honestly don't know how what the survivability of a paladin is on these things but the bottom line is a warrior will die in about 3 seconds even if they put sentinel up. You would have to rely on block rate to keep you alive and avoid using an AoE when they are all crouching and once they are all down you can have the war tank the mage nm and have the pld tank the other. If that doesnt work then 2 whm a pld and a warrior would be my next guess.
The big thing to know about this leve is that if you can keep all of the mobs in the same spot for even a brief period of time and entire wave can be completely eradicated and alot of people are timing out because they keep resetting hate. Will this work? I have no idea, but its the only viable strategy I can think of that SE could have possibly intended for it since the kobolds tear through a warrior like a wet piece of paper. Also note, THE KOBOLDS CAN BE SLEPT. It is very easy, one sleepga with darkseal will sleep just about every kobold it hits but they do build resistance quickly. Take that for what its worth. -
07-31-2012, 11:03 PMLeo_Hart
I having problme everytime i do this, another group also doing :/ u know what i mean
-
07-31-2012, 11:35 PMReqWe were doing this the other night and a certain someones linkshell (*cough* crimzon *cough*) came and did it at the same time which basically caused us to kill the nm half a second after the leve ended because there were 20 mobs on top of us and we couldnt see what the hell was going on. As crappy as it was though I wasn't really mad because the fact these things aren't instanced is a really bad design plan on SEs part all together though. Same thing goes for princess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leo_Hart
-
07-31-2012, 11:38 PMLeo_HartPrincess is far better at least u wont get messy when they started the leves. We just take turn to do the leves, but cause longer 'recast time'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Req
-
07-31-2012, 11:52 PMTaei
3 waves now? lol, Good job SE, way to make the hardest faction even harder now.
-
08-01-2012, 12:01 AMLeo_Hartimo blm one is hardest, War totally skill check but blm one skill + luck-check , one time Princess nvr change to blue at all :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Taei
-
08-01-2012, 12:08 AMXavierBladeQuote:
Originally Posted by Crimzon
Obviously I responded right after the guy above me who said this is the hardest faction leve. So thanks for coming in when none said anything to you.
Anyways, WAR is actually fairly easy... WHM is just LAUGHABLE though.
BLM > WAR FNM, easily -
08-01-2012, 12:31 AMCrimzonWell agree to disagree. The BLM leve can be made easier with MNK as the 2nd DD rather than a 2nd BLM. It takes the 'luck' factor out of the fight as to what colors Princess is changing to.Quote:
Originally Posted by XavierBlade
-
08-01-2012, 02:00 AMTaei
This issue needs to be addressed. I think all faction leves were well balanced, (except for WHM, that was ridiculously easy).
Honestly I don't think there was a lot of QA for these leves....and now they "fixed" this issue, even if it is doable, why such huge differences between say WHM and WAR? Is it to punish the easier SBing? -
08-01-2012, 02:09 AMMeatdawgBLM is quite easy if you do it as crim described. Mnk, Blm, Pld, Whm.Quote:
Originally Posted by XavierBlade
Mnk kills light blue, Blm dark blue, Pal green and as the blm finishes help out with the other 2. This should leave you 6 min+ for the princess with plenty of time.
We did it last night for my leve and I never even had to convert. Won with like 2 min left. We recorded the fight as well. -
08-01-2012, 02:19 AMLeo_HartBoth is 'easy' if u know what to do, but War doesn't have Critical condition like blm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meatdawg
-
08-01-2012, 02:28 AMKaplanHomahru
So, aside from everyone's personal thoughts about the difficulty of various leves, anyone have more tips for WAR?
-
08-01-2012, 02:28 AMMeatdawgWrong nuke doesn't count as critical condition?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leo_Hart
-
08-01-2012, 03:19 AMLeo_HartFirst Wave : SC + 2 Flare + 2 Blizara + fireQuote:
Originally Posted by KaplanHomahru
Whm buffing
Second Wave : Collusion Holy + SC + 2 Firaga + Holy + 2 Blizara
Run to outside
War Pull them out, whm : aerora, blm : fire fira, Resonance: firaga
When all the adds down
Pull "Sword" out and keep thunder >> thundera till dead
Sword dead, 2 blm change to mnk/drg and kill the 59 -
08-01-2012, 03:44 AMKaplanHomahru
Thanks, I'll pass it along
-
08-01-2012, 03:49 AMMeatdawgQuote:
Originally Posted by Leo_Hart
That is an awful lot of work if your just going to leesh kill the 3rd wave anyway.
1 war, 3 whm
First wave : SC + 3x holy
2nd wave : SC + 3x holy
Run out, switch all 3 whn to blm. Mobs reset lose hate. Resonance Crit Firagra, then finish off with a few fires/thunder, run out and change to your dd setup and kill last 2. -
08-01-2012, 04:37 AMLeo_HartWow, you are smASSter !!!! sry for typoQuote:
Originally Posted by Meatdawg
-
08-02-2012, 09:38 AMskygirl7meit was acctually 1aerora +holy*2 first wave, 1 aerora + holy*1 + 1 aerora + stonra(s) second wave, holy*3 third wave. holy*2 each wave works in theroy but hard to do because on 3rd wave there's no more collusion and no time to wait for war's ws, whm who holy on 3rd wave usually gets hate and die very fast. there were a lot of sentinal,ss and benediction going on as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crimzon
3whm+war stats are all about timing and stay alive! -
08-17-2012, 12:59 AMSaifaaHey there, and Congratulations for your 7/7Quote:
Originally Posted by Meatdawg
Sorry for coming back to you for this, but did you upload that video recording of the BLM faction? We got through other relic factions, been timed out a few times around 4-5% on that one, and that 2 min margin seems like your strategy is a good one.
So if you'ld be able to upload that (or another with that team composition), it would be a great help. Thanks in advance, and have fun IG -
08-17-2012, 01:16 AMMadrox
What leves are these?