Chaos Thrust and Parsers

I use BG Parser v1.22 (I think it's 1.22, it's whatever is the latest version), and I've been noticing that it just doesn't seem to pick up Chaos Thrust damage. I've looked at the breakdowns on boss fights. I've solo'd and seen that the damage just doesn't add up to how much health the mob should have, and it's always off by how much damage my Chaos Thrust did.

Anyone else notice this? Only issue it bothers me is a lot of people, especially for speed runs, think Monk is just the end all/be all for Miser's Mistress based on what their parsers say. If Chaos Thrust isn't being picked up, this may not be the case (or not nearly the case people make it out to be).

Neither is Quick Nock, Dragon Kick/Simian Thrash or Rage of Halone.

It must be the new way they do the multi-hit weaponskills, sounds like the parser needs an update.

I don't know if we all do this; but it may be because we turned our log into "Show it as one big hit" instead of "Show it as a bunch of little hits". BGParse may be set up to read those moves as separate attacks; if I remember correctly, my CT damage would appear as min/max for one shot of the six, not a total.

Also, 1.22 is labeled as final. ^^;

The author of BGParser has, for now, postponed further updates until we get more information about 2.0's addon API. I believe there are a few chat-log parser alternatives out there that are still being updated but I have no firsthand knowledge of them.

http://ff14logrep-eng.blogspot.jp/ is one although I'm not sure if it has all the things bgparser does

BG doesn't pick up any casted nuke used with PoM either.

and yeah, I don't blame the authors of these things for not wanting to work on something and keep it up dated, when so much is happening in, and to the game soon.

Shouldn't something like this belong on their forum and not this one? I'm not complaining about you posting here but I would imagine you'd get a better response from the maker.

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Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz

Shouldn't something like this belong on their forum and not this one? I'm not complaining about you posting here but I would imagine you'd get a better response from the maker.

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understood, but it helps to post here too. it informs others, and educates them on what's going on with such things.

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Originally Posted by Giit

understood, but it helps to post here too. it informs others, and educates them on what's going on with such things.

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Well that is a good point but OP should also make a post on their forums as well to get a direct reply. Just trying to help~

My post was more to raise awareness amongst the DRG community, as a lot of people have it in their head that MNKs are better DDs because they parse higher. I'm not sure how much damage Dragon Kick might do for them, but I typically Chaos Thrust for 1k or more, and get 2-3 off per boss fight. Usually makes up the difference between me and the MNKs on Miser, if I'm not beating them already.

It's more than Dragon Kick. AFAIK, it's any multi-hit weaponskill. So that would be Simian Thrash as well or Godsbane etc..

Well MM is kind of a special case with MNK since Fists of Fire add extra damage and most people developed their opinion of MNK as best melee DPS on this fight. But IMO a skilled MNK and a skilled DRG will be roughly about the same but this is only because of the fact that MNK and DRG are good at different things and both have strong points and weak points.

Although I may be a bit biased because I love DRG so much lol. MNK may just be over all better.

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Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz

Well that is a good point but OP should also make a post on their forums as well to get a direct reply. Just trying to help~

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This may just be more confusing, but it's also important to note that the author of BGParser is a member of Order of the Blue Garter in FFXIV, a separate entity from BlueGartr.

I don't use the BG parser, but here's the relevant log data if anyone wants to add support for it themselves:

Party Member:
0052::<Player> uses <ability> on <enemy>[ from the right/left/rear].
0070::[Critical! ]<Enemy>['s body part] takes <damage> point[s] of damage.
or 0076::Attack misses.
(repeat X times)
0052::<# Hits>fold attack! <Enemy> takes a total of <damage> point[s] of damage.

Yourself:
0050::You use <ability> on <enemy>[ from the right/left/rear].
006E::[Critical! ]<Enemy>['s body part] takes <damage> point[s] of damage.
or 0074::Attack misses.
(repeat X times)
0050::<# Hits>fold attack! <Enemy> takes a total of <damage> point[s] of damage.

I don't have the log codes for people outside of your party.

If you want to parse these correctly you need to be able to reference information (ability name and player name) from the first line to add to the per-hit or total-hits line.

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Originally Posted by Raikki

I don't use the BG parser, but here's the relevant log data if anyone wants to add support for it themselves:

Party Member:
0052::<Player> uses <ability> on <enemy>[ from the right/left/rear].
0070::[Critical! ]<Enemy>['s body part] takes <damage> point[s] of damage.
or 0076::Attack misses.
(repeat X times)
0052::<# Hits>fold attack! <Enemy> takes a total of <damage> point[s] of damage.

Yourself:
0050::You use <ability> on <enemy>[ from the right/left/rear].
006E::[Critical! ]<Enemy>['s body part] takes <damage> point[s] of damage.
or 0074::Attack misses.
(repeat X times)
0050::<# Hits>fold attack! <Enemy> takes a total of <damage> point[s] of damage.

I don't have the log codes for people outside of your party.

If you want to parse these correctly you need to be able to reference information (ability name and player name) from the first line to add to the per-hit or total-hits line.

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thanks i'll consider a quick last update been getting a lot of requests for multi hit support.

(I am tachi the guy who made the parser, I use this account on the forums don't ask why lol. Also dealing with some real life issues but things have calmed down this past week so I have a little free time between work/baby/wife/LS.

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Originally Posted by Crimzon

It's more than Dragon Kick. AFAIK, it's any multi-hit weaponskill. So that would be Simian Thrash as well or Godsbane etc..

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turn the condensed option off. the line that says like xfold attack blah blah.

parser should pick it up properly then

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Originally Posted by Dzian

turn the condensed option off. the line that says like xfold attack blah blah.

parser should pick it up properly then

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I didn't test the differences in condensed vs non condensed dmg but I did update to support the syntax that Raikki posted above, new download here: http://www.fileswap.com/dl/ke4Ar9ssW...tihit.jar.html

Please post errors that you may find here or in the new BG forums: http://bluegarter.guildwork.com/foru...5cb2780c000199

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Originally Posted by Tango

I didn't test the differences in condensed vs non condensed dmg but I did update to support the syntax that Raikki posted above, new download here: http://www.fileswap.com/dl/ke4Ar9ssW...tihit.jar.html

Please post errors that you may find here or in the new BG forums: http://bluegarter.guildwork.com/foru...5cb2780c000199

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Thank you very much for the update on the parser, Tachi.

Hope you continue working on it as is atm the best XIV parser around and extremely useful ^^

CT doesn't show up in breakdowns still, don't know if its going into the main damage score though.

Is this the text in the chat window? (minus the key:: part 0050:: etc)

"0052::Belial Hellhammer uses Chaos Thrust on Garuda from the rear.0070::Garuda takes 168 points of damage.0070::Garuda takes 168 points of damage.0070::Garuda takes 168 points of damage.0070::Garuda takes 168 points of damage.0070::Garuda takes 168 points of damage.0070::Garuda takes 168 points of damage.0052::6 fold attack! Garuda takes a total of 1008 points of damage.0050::You use Chaos Thrust on Garuda from the rear.006E::Garuda takes 168 points of damage.006E::Garuda takes 168 points of damage.006E::Garuda takes 168 points of damage.006E::Garuda takes 168 points of damage.006E::Garuda takes 168 points of damage.006E::Garuda takes 168 points of damage.0050::6 fold attack! Garuda takes a total of 1008 points of damage."

This is how I interpretted raikki's syntax to mean. If its different please let me know.

ok really did fix multi hit now: http://www.fileswap.com/dl/I6IMHEisU...81%29.jar.html

Of course it only affects chaos thrust, so not really a proper fix.

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Originally Posted by lordvr

Of course it only affects chaos thrust, so not really a proper fix.

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it's fixed simian thrash and dragon kicks as well. so i'd say it works for others like rage of halone and godsbane.

i have noticed the parser stops occassionally. i punched a simian thrash on something hit it for ninefold attack mob takes 1 damage and the parser stopped with some error. it's happened 2 or 3 times whenever something hits for like 1 damage but i can't seem to make it happen when i want to quote the error message

fixed a few more things including single point dmg errors. Should be pretty clean now. Also fixed for all the multi hit ws's.

Oddly enough, now it doesn't seem to pick up howling fist.

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Originally Posted by lordvr

Oddly enough, now it doesn't seem to pick up howling fist.

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I think it does pick it up but might not be in the breakdowns? IDK, I notice sometimes it shows up in the breakdowns and sometimes it doesn't same with doomspike.

I've not seen any issues since that last post on 8/13 I'd look at the target monster selection sometimes ppl have the wrong target selected and then dmg won't show up.

link is gone now >.>