This classic FF job could solve Healer Dilemma

So I admit, I'm not a main healer in FFXIV, but I have played all mainline, and many side FF games, so I love to theorize and craft what jobs could be blended into FFXIV. I have at least gotten WHM to 99 and SCH to 90 back in EW and I understand that from a gameplay and content perspective that they are efficient at healing, but in-between heals, and in casual content they are pretty much boring 1 button dps. Nothing was worse than queuing MS Roulette as healer and just spamming 1 on my keyboard for 30 minutes straight.

That being said, I think a great job for 8.0 would be Cleric and they could be equipped with Mace/Shield, Flail/Shield, 2H Mace, or 2H flail. I absolutely love abstract classes, so having a melee based healer would actually make me even give healing a try. And I think they would focus more on light single target healing, and heavy AOE healing, and instead of just spamming healing abilities on friendlies, you would instead do your normal dps rotation and as you deal damage you'd heal nearby allies (think of a team based Bloodwhetting) and then your big heals would be putting a buff called "Bless" on your weapon that would further increase the effect of heals for a short duration.

This is just a rough idea, and obviously it would have to be balanced so that the job doesn't do as much damage as a dps or tank, but It would be a fun change of pace to give healing jobs, and It would be a great job for melee DPS and Tanks to try to get them into enjoying the healing role as well.

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Quick Concept on abilities:
-2 sets of 1,2,3 melee combos (like WAR) One combo grants buff for 5%-10% healing done and other is for straight dps. You'd have to focus on keeping that buff at all time
-Completing Combos grants "Blessings" or "Prayers" (Normal Healer 3 Stack) which can be used for insta-cast OGCD heals and Barriers. This will help for mechanics that targets healers and healing Tanks after a tank Buster
-A few GCD AOE and Single Target Heals for moments that do require job to stop focusing on melee and focusing on healing instead
-2m Burst healing window "Bless" which would Greatly increase healing done by all means, be that dps rotations, hard casts, or spending "blessings/prayers"

Ah, perhaps i can give the square enix reply.

We will never release another tank or healer class because we lack the skill to implement it well.

But if we did make a new healer, we could certainly do a cleric. We'll call it, clerictologian or clerictomancer. Clerictologist. Enclericler.

It can have a mace! That would be perfect for casting spells from at a range with all the no melee abilities we'll give it.
A shield is a good idea too! It will look thematic as you use all of the no shield based abilities we'll give it. We'll also have to take off stats from other cleric gear to put on the shield so it's balanced. But requiring an extra piece of equipment will take more tomes and resources, which means more sub time.

Now as for the kit, we're thinking a basic heal. We'll call it, Clericure. And later it will have a chance to proc a free cast of Clericure 2!
And then it will need a regen, Cleregen. An aoe heal, and aoe regen. And then an ocgd heal. And then 6 more ogcd heals and shields, and a heal to full hp.
Cant forget Cleresuna and Clersleep.
And Claero for dots.

Then it will need a core mechanic... how about another three stack system? It could be used for 100 potency damage or for healing.

Thank you for your input! We hope to add this new healer class Clerictologianizer in 6 to 8 years even though it is 90% identical to white mage, after adding 4 new dps classes:
-Punchomancer(we give up on fixing monk)
-Dark Mage(we ruined black mage and gave up on that too)
-Edge Knight(we apologize for accidentally deleting dark knight in 7.1)
-Overworked japanese salaryman

Please support the game by buying mountain dew at the vending machines outside the boba shop in Solution Final Fantasy 9.

But yes that would be a fantastic idea for a unique healer.
Id also want dps or healer geomancer, and maybe an alternate bard job as a healer.
And of course current healer jobs to be made unique from each other.

There's also no reason they cant make a tine mage healer. Them saying it would be unfeasible to let you actually stop time is ridiculous.
Of course that's infeasible. But you dont need it to do that. All you need is a thematic spell kit that isnt identical to whm or sch. And also give up on the stupid idea of shield healers vs pure healers.

Regens can be based on accelerating healing, it could be very regen focused. Give it a dot kit for damage that everyone still misses from old summoner. Big heals could be based on reversing the last instance of damage taken. And the support spell possibilities are endless.

Geomancer is a class I would love to see, but also Mystic (we need Dots back) and Rune Knight (tank).

I know the 3 stack system is a meme lol, but I think it would work for Cleric. At the end of every rotation they could gain a "blessing" so that way during mechanics that target healers they could fall back for insta cast heals.

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Originally Posted by Wildheaven182

*Mordecai and Rigby ooooooh sounds*

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Bro took a whole flamethrower to the entire dev team.

I'd love to see a melee healer or a phys ranged healer named Chemist, but I don't have high hopes we're getting that, any time soon. The job team is basically one hamster on a wheel powering a building.

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Originally Posted by Wildheaven182

Ah, perhaps i can give the square enix reply.

We will never release another tank or healer class because we lack the skill to implement it well.

But if we did make a new healer, we could certainly do a cleric. We'll call it, clerictologian or clerictomancer. Clerictologist. Enclericler.

It can have a mace! That would be perfect for casting spells from at a range with all the no melee abilities we'll give it.
A shield is a good idea too! It will look thematic as you use all of the no shield based abilities we'll give it. We'll also have to take off stats from other cleric gear to put on the shield so it's balanced. But requiring an extra piece of equipment will take more tomes and resources, which means more sub time.

Now as for the kit, we're thinking a basic heal. We'll call it, Clericure. And later it will have a chance to proc a free cast of Clericure 2!
And then it will need a regen, Cleregen. An aoe heal, and aoe regen. And then an ocgd heal. And then 6 more ogcd heals and shields, and a heal to full hp.
Cant forget Cleresuna and Clersleep.
And Claero for dots.

Then it will need a core mechanic... how about another three stack system? It could be used for 100 potency damage or for healing.

Thank you for your input! We hope to add this new healer class Clerictologianizer in 6 to 8 years even though it is 90% identical to white mage, after adding 4 new dps classes:
-Punchomancer(we give up on fixing monk)
-Dark Mage(we ruined black mage and gave up on that too)
-Edge Knight(we apologize for accidentally deleting dark knight in 7.1)
-Overworked japanese salaryman

Please support the game by buying mountain dew at the vending machines outside the boba shop in Solution Final Fantasy 9.

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Unless SE starts fixing the tank and healer problem like Blizzard is for wow it is only gonna get worse.
https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker...94517#24223979

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Originally Posted by Wildheaven182

There's also no reason they cant make a tine mage healer. Them saying it would be unfeasible to let you actually stop time is ridiculous.

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This doesn't work for me, there are multiple enemies in the game already with temporal manipulation abilities, notably the second boss of Zot. So temporal manipulation exists in universe, why should there not be a study of it and a job that uses it? The revive could be awesome - Reverse time for the affected person, restoring them to the state they were in before they died - buffs, debuffs, cooldowns, the works with mechanics (like doom) being the exception. The transcendence effect could be switched out with an "Out of temporal sync" effect.

for the love of any remaining job uniqueness in FFXIV... no... more...new... jobs.

fix what we have now, then add others.. but fix what is broken FIRST

adding new broken garbage does little, but bloat our gear issues...

I was so in character I forgot to name a single attack.

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

for the love of any remaining job uniqueness in FFXIV...

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I thought the job I mentioned was pretty unique :/

Thinking on this more. It would be GREAT if SE would add in another hybrid class like ACN that splits into two separate jobs. This might make it easier for devs to work on and it makes leveling and being able to fill spots so much better on players. And with the relatively recent influx of WoW players, this is something they are used to so it could help retain them more.

But have a class split into Cleric Job (healer) and Rune Knight Job (Tank or DPS). Rune Knight is also a classic ff job I would like to see, but i genuinely think that cleric and rune knight could be great hybrid.

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Originally Posted by SirNichlaus

I thought the job I mentioned was pretty unique :/

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sure, its unique, but you do not understand how SE actually works.

they introduce a new job, and cherry pick/poach abilities from other jobs for their kit.

they need to resolve the issues with the established jobs that are IN THE GAME before adding something new.

until they figure out that problem, adding new jobs is just making the hole in the Titanic bigger and applying new paint.