Loved DT's story, reminded me of a actual self contained JRPG. better than HW or SB

ofc we could say most xpacs kinda could have been but DT felt like a ps2 ps1 jrpgs of learning about the world and then .

shb and HW also felt like one


but the way they introduced characters, set the world and paced as we learn about the culture and world etc and then had the 2nd half develop. just felt more enganing than SB and HW to me

Tural culture: They eat tacos, childlike race have alpacas and love to comerce, bird race eat reeds and love celebrations, moblins have artisans on giants teapots, giant race dominated others and are insular now, cats and lizards get along by eating food, lizards live in dark forest, cats on upper area, also there are a far west area with no background.

And thats the resume of Tural lore which is sad because theres barely anything else.

Meanwhile in ARR you get TONS of Uldah lore and even on a lesser ammount from Gridania, Limsa and even Ala Migho before you can even visit it, the beast races, the political situation of Garlean Empire and much more.

DT was basically all the stereotypes you could fill from both Americas with some fantasy paint on it and My Little Pony Friendship is Magic behaviour on almost 95% of Tural population

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Originally Posted by Jetto

ofc we could say most xpacs kinda could have been but DT felt like a ps2 ps1 jrpgs of learning about the world and then .

shb and HW also felt like one


but the way they introduced characters, set the world and paced as we learn about the culture and world etc and then had the 2nd half develop. just felt more engaging than SB and HW to me

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I can respect your opinion. I personally preferred HW and SB, but I can see why some would prefer this more self contained story.

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Originally Posted by Bhearil

Tural culture: They eat tacos, childlike race have alpacas and love to comerce, bird race eat reeds and love celebrations, moblins have artisans on giants teapots, giant race dominated others and are insular now, cats and lizards get along by eating food, lizards live in dark forest, cats on upper area, also there are a far west area with no background.

And thats the resume of Tural lore which is sad because theres barely anything else.

Meanwhile in ARR you get TONS of Uldah lore and even on a lesser ammount from Gridania, Limsa and even Ala Migho before you can even visit it, the beast races, the political situation of Garlean Empire and much more.

DT was basically all the stereotypes you could fill from both Americas with some fantasy paint on it and My Little Pony Friendship is Magic behaviour on almost 95% of Tural population

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You forgot the Alexandrians with their Tron-like atmosphere, which I personally loved.

I was bored out of my mind in DT. The hyperfocus on a singular character was a baffling choice after we had such strong ensemble casts for the past eight years.

Speak to Wuk Lamat.

As a Person, that came from WoW and played Shadowlands: You guys never saw real shitty storywriting.

Bait used to be believable

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DT felt like a ps2 ps1 jrpgs of learning about the world

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Could you please name the titles? I am genuinely curious what you are comparing DT with.

SPEEEEEEEN!

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Originally Posted by Higashikata

I was bored out of my mind in DT. The hyperfocus on a singular character was a baffling choice after we had such strong ensemble casts for the past eight years.

Speak to Wuk Lamat.

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I actually fell asleep once or twice. My wife making exasperated sounds on the other side of the computer woke me up a bit. (she didnt like dawntrial either)

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You forgot the Alexandrians with their Tron-like atmosphere, which I personally loved.

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Ignored Alexandria because is not part of Tural and it has a simple yet convoluted story to to shard/time travel shaenigans: Lalas discovered an omnimaterial for everything, countries went to war for the control of that rare material, rejoining happened, a fragment of the shard survived with their tech and recreated the fallen princess as an AI. Also eventually started to digitalize people when they died but the maintenance costs gradually scalated, at the same time they started using souls as a fuel which allowed to have extra videogame lives to avoid untimely deaths. That created an unsustainable system that would eventually collapse on itself because Sphene was unable to let things go

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So, basically...just ignore all the lore and then claim it doesn't exist? The backstory to why the mamoola ja live on the forest floor but invade the upper forest (not to mention the blessed siblings), the entire history of the yok huy (their expansion into the northern continent, subsequent withdrawal, etc.), the reason why the pelupelu became merchants (they weren't at first), the evolving relationship between the moblins and their artisans...

I mean, seriously, you don't have to like DT, but you can't just ignore all of the lore, pretend it's not there, and then claim it doesn't exist...

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Could you please name the titles? I am genuinely curious what you are comparing DT with.

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grandia, some tales of., DQ VIII, DQ DXI or even VII


just reminded me of a jrpg back when they fleshed out worlds a bit more and had a buildup and a climax. some jrpgs still do it to this day. but ps1 had more of that overworld building going town to town type

we dont really see that AS OFTEN in jrpgs

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grandia, some tales of., DQ VIII, DQ DXI or even VII


just reminded me of a jrpg back when they fleshed out worlds a bit more and had a buildup and a climax. some jrpgs still do it to this day. but ps1 had more of that overworld building going town to town type

we dont really see that AS OFTEN in jrpgs

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Because it is not introducing anything in the table

We need new stories twists and characters like emet graha that have this charm of being a good friend or being a good enemy

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Tural culture: They eat tacos, childlike race have alpacas and love to comerce, bird race eat reeds and love celebrations, moblins have artisans on giants teapots, giant race dominated others and are insular now, cats and lizards get along by eating food, lizards live in dark forest, cats on upper area, also there are a far west area with no background.

And thats the resume of Tural lore which is sad because theres barely anything else.

Meanwhile in ARR you get TONS of Uldah lore and even on a lesser ammount from Gridania, Limsa and even Ala Migho before you can even visit it, the beast races, the political situation of Garlean Empire and much more.

DT was basically all the stereotypes you could fill from both Americas with some fantasy paint on it and My Little Pony Friendship is Magic behaviour on almost 95% of Tural population

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Stereotype defines DT. It was the word on their mood board.