Quick Synthesis failed many times

Hello everyone!

Never posted here, but I have been having an issue with crafting and I don't know how to fix it. Im trying to craft 180 Silver Lobo Leather so I got all the materials from the gemstore and gathered the rest of the recipe to craft it.

So I did the normal synthesis as usual and got my first one with HQ and went over to quick synthesise the rest, but that was when I noticed I had failed 10 quick synthesis of 30 (losing a lot of material in the process) and I don't know why.

It says the craftmanship required for it is 3366 but I have 3655 way higher than what it asked of me. The leather is a lvl 91 crafting and Im doing it with a lvl 91 leatherworker, I don't know what im doing wrong for it to fail, can someone please help me?

From the Teamcraft Discord server:

in case anyone is interested... quick synth failing when you are above recommended craftsmanship (and appropriate level of the craft) appears to be tied to having an older offhand equipped. we did a bunch of testing and while i couldn't reproduce this, Nat was able to. 2 out of 5 lumbers broke wearing indagator gear and level 84 offhand. swapping to a lower level main hand was fine.

so if your quick synth is failing... upgrade your offhand.

Hello! I'll try it, but my offhand is level 90 (1 level under the craft) so I don't know how much it would change to a lvl 91 offhand. But is this a bug or an intended feature?

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Originally Posted by Astrodyne

From the Teamcraft Discord server:

in case anyone is interested... quick synth failing when you are above recommended craftsmanship (and appropriate level of the craft) appears to be tied to having an older offhand equipped. we did a bunch of testing and while i couldn't reproduce this, Nat was able to. 2 out of 5 lumbers broke wearing indagator gear and level 84 offhand. swapping to a lower level main hand was fine.

so if your quick synth is failing... upgrade your offhand.

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So I just tryied witha lvl 91 off hand and it still breaks, I don't know how to fix it :(

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Originally Posted by Velkai

So I just tryied witha lvl 91 off hand and it still breaks, I don't know how to fix it :(

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If you want to avoid the failure, it's better to craft manually until you get max level gear. That's also going to give you more XP if you add in a couple of touch steps to increase quality.

I used my level 90 gear until I was 100 on all classes, quick synthed hundreds of level 91-98 ingots/logs/gems/etc and had zero failures

quick synth + rested bonus + FC/GC squad bonus + engineering manual = fast and easy exp, and I always have use for a bundle of current crafting mats

Quickrafting when you're at, or near the level of the recie tends to have annoyingly lot of fails. I never quickcraft stuff I'm not 10 levels past the requirement. At lest they did away with the fail change on lower level than certain gap recipes.

I never had a quick synth break doing 90-100 in MOSTLY script gear (see below) so idk what to tell you

I had a penta melded 620 crafted legs instead of script for pants though, then i made a cheap penta meld 94 body when I got level 94, I took this to 100, zero breaks in QS, even doing 98 mats or w/e they were. They started hq when i upgraded to the 690 though.

are you repairing your gear? do you have some kind of melds on right?

having melds on mostly 90 script gear, the 94 body, and 90- crafted legs was enough to meet craft 98 mats so when i was 98 and did them, no breaks, im not 100% sure if i started do that at 97 or 98 but i did do crafts underleveled so =/ doono what to say.

early to mid SB, QS had a lot of problems, nice to see DT change that, or w/e the patch was when they made QS reasonable.

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Originally Posted by Velkai

So I just tryied witha lvl 91 off hand and it still breaks, I don't know how to fix it :(

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i spoke to someone today and i think i may know the issue...

level 91-93 tools (ik 93 does not exist, as 94 is better but it has a point here)
91-93 tools would be weaker then the 620 scripts, so the tool theory may hold, you need 94/94 or ilv 620 script tools not to break

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

I used my level 90 gear until I was 100 on all classes, quick synthed hundreds of level 91-98 ingots/logs/gems/etc and had zero failures

quick synth + rested bonus + FC/GC squad bonus + engineering manual = fast and easy exp, and I always have use for a bundle of current crafting mats

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I leveled to 100 on all DoH in 24 hours by doing QS. I started doing EW-tier materials and then moved onto DT when gatherers started listing it. No breaks on any DT stuff with level 90 gear.

I had a quick synth fail on one of my alts yesterday. I interrupted the synthesis and checked my gear. Turns out durability had dropped to 0 on 4 of my accessories (all pentamelded) because I hadn't been paying attention like I normally do. Repaired everything and no more failures.

Recommended Craftsmanship for quick synthesis has been displayed on recipes in the past but is currently hidden. That may be what is happening here as opposed to level or ilvl playing a role. I might play around a bit on my alt since I'm still trying to level most of her DoH jobs and see if I can come up with some numbers for the 91-98 intermediate crafts.

EDIT: Initial results experimenting with CRP in batches of 50 attempts (made roughly 300 attempts of Ginseng to narrow down breakpoint then 150+ of each of the rest to confirm):

Ginseng Lumber (level 91) and Ceiba Lumber (level 92) both appear to require about 3700 Craftsmanship to avoid failure. At 3696, I was getting failures. At 3704, I had no failures. Going to move onto Dark Mahogany and Acacia next.

Dark Mahogany and Acacia also had no failures at 3704 (despite Acacia having a recommended Craftsmanship of 3845 - oversight?).

Claro Walnut did fail at 3704. I'll check that one as soon as I buy more logs.
Claro Walnut appears to need about 3820 to prevent failure. It was failing at 3818 but not at 3822.

I was sticking to changing between Craftsmanship only foods once I had breakpoints narrowed down so Control seems to play no role in success rate, only chance to get HQ during quick synth.

As usual, if you see different results then please share.

I'm assuming results will be the same for all intermediate crafts with 40 Durability and same recipe level. I did try experimenting with using a lower offhand because of the earlier comments but saw no difference as long as I hit at least 3700 Craftsmanship for the lower level recipes.

I have an undergeard alt who was quick synthing snow cotton cloth. 4/10 failures.

Added NQ salmon jerky, cont 173 craft 78, no more failures.

TLDR: Its the stats, not any particular tool.