Vertigo / Eyestrain issues (Level 100 Expert Dungeon Spoilers)

This has been an issue for a few expacs by now.
Other problems I encountered with my flicker Vertigo were:

• Mt Gulg being blending white
• The Tower at Paradigm's Breach, which caused such a massive migraine for me, I had to go rest for several hours the first time I played it.
• Phoinix - the colors are atrocious and hurt people even without any sight issues.

All 3 have been adjusted by the team but I feel like only MT Gulg has been a real difference (I previously thought that the Tower & Phoinix have not been adjusted, someone here corrected me. I don't think it's good that I could not tell the difference)

All of these were color-related issues but with the Strayborough Deadwalk I actually have problems that aren't solved by changing the color accessibility.

The second part after the first boss feels especially painful.

The rapid movements of the attractions in the background made me feel nauseous and within seconds my eyes had troubles concentrating on anything. I had to keep the camera down at all times and hope I don't run into a wall (a friend warned me about the dungeon & I used party finder where I explained my situation & had very kind & understanding players help me! but that is not a solution for doing expert roulette or in general).
I would maybe suggest that instead of things flickering extremely fast to slow it down to an unnatural level? Like treading through a nightmare.

The second boss.

I understand that mechanics should be challenging but may I suggest a tiny indicator for which tea cup is the one where the ghosts hide in? When the mechanic starts and we are supposed to follow the teacups, for someone like me, the cups become one blur. The colors being extremely same-ish does not help but I fully understand the aesthetic vision. Hence I think a tiny glow indicator would be helpful. My eyes were already tired after the area between boss 1 and 2 was so bad to look at.

Last mob pull before the final boss / doll enemies.

This actually caused me to nearly throw up. The rapid slamming down with the colors - I felt overwhelmed visually and audibly. The audio issues i can fix with the audio balancing but the colors I can't. Maybe just lessen the effect? Or have it an occasional not constant attack?

I wanna add that I only have a form of vertigo and though it can be severe, I at least do not have epilepsy, I worry for people who do have more severe issues when entering this dungeon.
It's not a bad dungeon in the story it tries to tell but I often feel like SE believes challenging content has to be visually overwhelming. I don't know. I know for DT they had something akin to sensitivity readers employed but maybe sensitivity players would be good too?
I want to enjoy the game - but not while sacrificing my health comfort. For now I will have to skip Expert roulette until new dungeons take the place of this one.

PS: English is my third language so I apologize for the messy writing & the mistakes.

This happened to me as well! I had sensory overload and felt like throwing up by the end of the dungeon. The areas you mentioned above are the exact areas that triggered me as well.

The rare FATE in the final zone does a better job at being a memory mechanic than the second boss does here, yes.

SE needs to allow players to turn off bloom again, and let us turn down rapid movements in the background without locking the game's FPS to 15.

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Originally Posted by LibitIncarne

SE needs to allow players to turn off bloom again

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What, you don't like every single object that emits light having an ugly halo that makes them blend together?

Both Tower at Paragram and Phionix have been color adjusted.. not long after they were added.. Tower was made a more grayish white and Phionix arena floor was made a more off shade to hide the AoEs less

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Originally Posted by Baxcel

Both Tower at Paragram and Phionix have been color adjusted.. not long after they were added.. Tower was made a more grayish white and Phionix arena floor was made a more off shade to hide the AoEs less

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Oh sorry ! Didn't know that. I still think there should have been further adjustments / more testing with people with sight issues but I will edit the OG post that those 2 have been edited

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Originally Posted by Soteira

Oh sorry ! Didn't know that. I still think there should have been further adjustments / more testing with people with sight issues but I will edit the OG post that those 2 have been edited

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Someone in the large eye strain thread was given an email address for an accessibility team, so people have been trying to forward the many issues to them.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6534058

Fair, and Understandable.
(While I personally liked the Original SGE icon. I take no Substitutes.)

Somethings can be abit much for different players.

While I can only hope SE finds a good solution for this, while keeping the design and gameplay fun.

Keeping track of them cups is annoying. I'd rather just take the damage.

It mostly benefits those who have all things macro'd and muscle memories.

As for Other instances that bleed white/off white. I can't say much. as I'm fine with it on my personal situation.

But I can see how big of an issue it can be.

Like how they worried that the DT Menu may flashbang players, about as bad as Shb may "RIDDDDDINNG HOOOOOOOOOME" Players into deafness.

I got the worst headache during the newest raid (M3) with how much I had to keep turning the camera towards the boss. I don't even use camera lock with fights! I'm on console and with as long as I've played, I've never had ANY issues like this until this dungeon. I have completely turned off non party members skills just to be able to SEE and even then I turned those down to the lowest I could set it without it completely being gone. So much goes on in these new raids visually that it really is exhausting on the eyes. Do we *really* need to have all these bright flashes for attacks? can't we use darker colors or something?

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Originally Posted by Daralii

Someone in the large eye strain thread was given an email address for an accessibility team, so people have been trying to forward the many issues to them.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6534058

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Thank you ! I will probably write them an E-Mail during the weekend but that's really helpful!

For the doll effect have you tried playing in grayscale? Sometimes when I have a headache I will put my computer in grayscale mode. I don't have any diagnosed motion condition but I know sometimes overwhelming colors can make a small headache worse. Some of the old maps dungeons would make a headache worse for me (I think it was shifting canals?).

On Windows, under accessibility there is a greyscale option. I am not sure about consoles but I would feel they have something similar maybe. Or adjust the monitor/TV settings, if you turn down saturation I think, it will make it black and white.