How Does This Game Have Good Graphics?

I just started playing this game and a lot of people say the graphics are really good, well when I look at them I think their ugly, even for 2010. Am I missing out on some settings or something?

Probably. For an mmo these graphics are very good. They are also set to improve in the next version.

how good is your pc, or you might be referring to the copy & paste method of the landscapes.

"Good graphics" are subjective.

Could someone please whip out that youtube video about aesthetics vs graphics again. It really should just be a sticky.

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Originally Posted by Akubikumo

Could someone please whip out that youtube video about aesthetics vs graphics again. It really should just be a sticky.

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That's kind of pointless for this game since the graphics themselves are pretty high up there (assuming you have the rig to run it), while the aesthetic itself is... just a rehash of XI.

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Originally Posted by Akubikumo

Could someone please whip out that youtube video about aesthetics vs graphics again. It really should just be a sticky.

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I've never seen that video, but I guess aesthetics VS graphics is what I've always been thinking. IMO, even old 2D games à la FFVI looks good.

I've seen a lot of people say games like Guildwars 2 had good graphics and was superior to FFXIV because of all the 3D effects this game is using compared to FFXIV... It is true, but IMO, the character designs is ugly.

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

"Good graphics" are subjective.

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Don't feed the troll please...

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Originally Posted by Sathnor

I just started playing this game and a lot of people say the graphics are really good, well when I look at them I think their ugly, even for 2010. Am I missing out on some settings or something?

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Compared to many other mmo's, FFXIV is one of the best looking mmo's out there.

But what makes an mmo a good game isnt just looks, so thats a lousy agrument.
Maybe you should find a single player game that dosent require so much stress as an online game does.

Or actually get a PC that can handle the game's graphical specs.

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Originally Posted by Sathnor

I just started playing this game and a lot of people say the graphics are really good, well when I look at them I think their ugly, even for 2010. Am I missing out on some settings or something?

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I dunno why people are saying this. FF14 graphics aren't really that good. Characters and mob models are very detailed and nice looking, and their animations are good, but the rest of the graphics aren't really breathtaking.

Additionally, the game has very few areas where it can show off nice looking stuff. Half the game is small, cramped, claustrophobic corridors, and the open areas we have are mostly copypaste with pretty dull textures and almost no landmarks.

Yup. These graphics SUCK!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...wallpaper3.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...lpapermini.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...wallpaper2.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...1334476315.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...1335146056.jpg
/sarcasm

You Mad, Bro?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1.../proudmini.png

Get those horrible graphics out here. Clearly WoW, Rift, SWTOR, TERA, Aio, GW2 has the best looking graphics. XIV graphics suck. I mean why does fabric look like fabric? That makes no sense.

Why is it when you look at the raw model data you can see appropriate lighting and reflection that looks almost borderline metallic? Pft.

The only Issue XIV 1.0 has is the engine wasn't suited for MMOs so it's largely unoptimized (AO will drop FPS for many), but the graphics are perfectly fine in itself.

as far as technical graphics this game is superior to just about anything out there. the technical of number of polygons and such are super high, but that also means that you need a really powerful computer to run this version of the game.

now as far as what is more visually appealing that is up to the eye of the beholder. just because it is technically more graphic intense doesn't mean that it looks better. to me the game looks great by comparison to other games, but i think there needs work in alot of places. i can also see where people that have a different opinion could have that conclusion as well. i think this post says it best:

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

"Good graphics" are subjective.

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there's good graphics and there's visually appealing good graphics. the graphics are good technically, but it may not be visually appealing.

I was about to talk about graphics =/= aesthetics but someone beat me to it...
Basically for those who don't know the difference:
Graphics are the capability to show something, aestetics are what they decide to show.
FFXIV has some of the best graphics of MMOs out there and is making them even better for 2.0.
Aesthetics aren't so great though (in most areas) since it's all just brown-greenish copy&paste landscape.
That's supposed to change with 2.0 as well.

Found a video explaining it a bit :o

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Get those horrible graphics out here. Clearly WoW, Rift, SWTOR, TERA, Aio, GW2 has the best looking graphics. XIV graphics suck. I mean why does fabric look like fabric? That makes no sense.

Why is it when you look at the raw model data you can see appropriate lighting and reflection that looks almost borderline metallic? Pft.

The only Issue XIV 1.0 has is the engine wasn't suited for MMOs so it's largely unoptimized (AO will drop FPS for many), but the graphics are perfectly fine in itself.

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LOL @ WOW having better graphics. Your relentless assaults on FFXIV are just becoming silly.

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Originally Posted by Avraym

LOL @ WOW having better graphics. Your relentless assaults on FFXIV are just becoming silly.

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You do realize she was being sarcastic, right?

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Originally Posted by Avraym

LOL @ WOW having better graphics. Your relentless assaults on FFXIV are just becoming silly.

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i think she was being sarcastic lol

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Originally Posted by Avraym

LOL @ WOW having better graphics. Your relentless assaults on FFXIV are just becoming silly.

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Are...

Are you broken?

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Get those horrible graphics out here. Clearly WoW, Rift, SWTOR, TERA, Aio, GW2 has the best looking graphics. XIV graphics suck. I mean why does fabric look like fabric? That makes no sense.

Why is it when you look at the raw model data you can see appropriate lighting and reflection that looks almost borderline metallic? Pft.

The only Issue XIV 1.0 has is the engine wasn't suited for MMOs so it's largely unoptimized (AO will drop FPS for many), but the graphics are perfectly fine in itself.

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Originally Posted by Avraym

LOL @ WOW having better graphics. Your relentless assaults on FFXIV are just becoming silly.

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Yeah, you know how WOW, Aion, Rift etc is so much colorful than XIV ! Well, colorful = better graphics!

on a side note:
Is this a Sarcasm inside a sarcasm !? Sarcasm-ception !

EDIT: Put spoilers on

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

there's good graphics and there's visually appealing good graphics. the graphics are good technically, but it may not be visually appealing.

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Yes, like I said...subjective.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/59...FC0E73F4B9D66/
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/57...F024F587828F3/
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/57...420E35B991F91/
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/57...8C89D067614C7/
http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/...C218B85B0C29D/

I happen to find these areas quite beautiful, while others might find them boring.

I can see threads on my woven clothes and the sheen on my armor looks appropriate to the lighting.

I think something is wrong with this game, can anyone confirm? I've never seen another MMO do that....

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Originally Posted by Anima

Yeah, you know how WOW, Aion, Rift etc is so much colorful than XIV ! Well, colorful = better graphics!

on a side note:
Is this a Sarcasm inside a sarcasm !? Sarcasm-ception !

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Oh no...

Maybe I'M broken!!!

kk im just gonna add a few of my own...
(i hope i didnt mess up the forum now, last one is kinda...huge, lol)

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http://s14.postimage.org/833bpla3j/l...Z6_Xq_Jf5f.png
Someone say FFXIV has bad graphics hmm?


http://s7.postimage.org/s1gc8wc6x/e3...KG96_Qq6_Y.png
~ okay...i did some minor photoshop enhancement to this one. ^_^

http://s18.postimage.org/47smosxdj/I...5bm7baf_Z7.png
ok, this is just for show off... just a very...VERY wide look of coerthas about 1 year ago.

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Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX

I can see threads on my woven clothes and the sheen on my armor looks appropriate to the lighting.

I think something is wrong with this game, can anyone confirm? I've never seen another MMO do that....

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Yes yes, It is nice to have such a Graphic but do you know that Games aren't REAL ? therefore they shouldn't have graphics with a nice skeleton-model coz It resembles reality more than ugly models ! My argument wins over any others !

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^^It's not fixed

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

Yes, like I said...subjective.

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yep, that's why i quoted you and said this is the best post on the issue so far. you are spot on. my favorite view is looking over the lake south of camp glory south of spitfire. it's a relaxing place with a beautiful view and i love the coerthas music so it's a nice spot, but it is just as subjective. i'll take a screen and put it up after this fog lifts.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

yep, that's why i quoted you and said this is the best post on the issue so far. you are spot on. my favorite view is looking over the lake south of camp glory south of spitfire. it's a relaxing place with a beautiful view and i love the coerthas music so it's a nice spot, but it is just as subjective. i'll take a screen and put it up after this fog lifts.

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Oh, my mistake. I read your post in the wrong tone!

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/57...DDD7F7DF8F8CF/

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Originally Posted by Atoli

You do realize she was being sarcastic, right?

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Because internet and sarcasm mix so well.

My initial reaction was sarcasm (obviously), but it only takes a recent post history to see that most of his posts are laced with attacks on ffxiv and are just as incredibly stupid, so it wouldn't suprise me if he was being serious.

LOL you are blind, look at every mmo, compare animations, graphics, anything. This game tops them all.

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Originally Posted by Avraym

Because internet and sarcasm mix so well.

My initial reaction was sarcasm (obviously), but it only takes a recent post history to see that most of his posts are laced with attacks on ffxiv and are just as incredibly stupid, so it wouldn't suprise me if he was being serious.

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Her, and you're just being overly sensitive to an unbiased look at FFXIV. No one attacks FFXIV, however I'm not going to sit and praise everything XIV has done when even SE admits a lot is wrong with the game, thus Realm Reborn.

And yes it was sarcasm which pretty much everyone else got xD

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Originally Posted by Akubikumo

Could someone please whip out that youtube video about aesthetics vs graphics again. It really should just be a sticky.

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It doesn't matter, that video was bullshit itself. The author clearly had no understanding that aesthetics are just as subjective and relative as graphics, or rather more subjective and relative since graphics can at least be quantified by a certain degree.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

there's good graphics and there's visually appealing good graphics. the graphics are good technically, but it may not be visually appealing.

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Whether something's visually appealing or not is also relative at best. Visually speaking, FFXIV is one of the only MMORPGs worth its salt to me (the others are Blade N Soul, Queens Blade, & Bless).

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Originally Posted by Atoli

I was about to talk about graphics =/= aesthetics but someone beat me to it...
Basically for those who don't know the difference:
Graphics are the capability to show something, aestetics are what they decide to show.
FFXIV has some of the best graphics of MMOs out there and is making them even better for 2.0.
Aesthetics aren't so great though (in most areas) since it's all just brown-greenish copy&paste landscape.
That's supposed to change with 2.0 as well.

Found a video explaining it a bit :o

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Graphics are at least quantifiable to a degree, aesthetics have no quantifiable measurement whatsoever and can only be relative at best. It's funny that the author thinks crap like Katamari must somehow be visually appealing to everyone (hint: it's not) and thinks he's the cure to cancer talking about graphics and aesthetics when he has no clue whatsoever.

This game has good art style, just like FFXI, but it also has pretty high polygon/textures for an mmorpg. It doesn't have that goofy clown look a lot of western mmorpgs get with their characters and environments.

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Originally Posted by Dragon

Whether something's visually appealing or not is also relative at best. Visually speaking, FFXIV is one of the only MMORPGs worth its salt to me (the others are Blade N Soul, Queens Blade, & Bless).

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but that was my exact point. just because it looks good to you is just as subjective as someone else saying it looks bad to them. i agree with you that the game looks stunning to me, but i can also look and see why people liked the looks of tera more or another game. it's just more visually appealing to that person even though the graphics are technically better in xiv by the measurables.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

but that was my exact point. just because it looks good to you is just as subjective as someone else saying it looks bad to them. i agree with you that the game looks stunning to me, but i can also look and see why people liked the looks of tera more or another game. it's just more visually appealing to that person even though the graphics are technically better in xiv by the measurables.

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Oh, good to hear. :D My apologies.

Playing a game just for its graphics = fail.

Yo man i luv game good grafix check it looks better dan FFVII.

http://i.imgur.com/NQuhr.jpg

The Depth of Field in this game is by far, my biggest complaint. I hope they fix that come 2.0. Well, that and clipping.

FFXIV Models look great, the landscapes are horrid in detail however do to the overuse in Alpha Textures, ex. grass looks likes its spray painted on the rocks the tree's and bushes glitter when in motion the ocean is flat and dull.

also a peve of mine is that Melee job animations are overused and often make no sense in detail to the job description.

but the models are great...if that where the only thing that made great games this would be number one.

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Originally Posted by Valmonte

FFXIV Models look great, the landscapes are horrid in detail however do to the overuse in Alpha Textures, ex. grass looks likes its spray painted on the rocks the tree's and bushes glitter when in motion the ocean is flat and dull.

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Here is the thing about the ground textures. If you look at them at an angle (ie our typical perspective) then yes they do look all blury and horrible. If you move your camera so its looking directly down. then they look prety damned nifty.

Moral of the story? Square Stop using Normal mapping on every thing in the damned game.

It's not really subjective. This game has the best graphics of any MMO.

There are certain elements like the water-rendering which is not as good as say, TERA, B&S, Archeage, but otherwise it's pretty much superior in every way.

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Originally Posted by Sathnor

I just started playing this game and a lot of people say the graphics are really good, well when I look at them I think their ugly, even for 2010. Am I missing out on some settings or something?

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I think you're really ugly.