Paladin feels even better now.

I started to come back around to it in Endwalker because that felt like the Expansion for it, but man.. Dawntrail just makes it feel even better now with that Atonement Combo, and no I'm not a tank main, I just play all jobs and pick whichever feels good for that role, but so far Paladin feels so good to play, Divine Veil, Intervention, Cover, Holy Sheltron everything works they even reduced the button bloat by 1 on a controller.

I just want to thank the dev team for making me feel good about playing Paladin. I'm still not great at situational awareness and foreseeing when an ally might benefit from one of my abilities, but I still cover a priest in single tank content and pop divine veil or passage of arms when a big aoe is going to drop, and I feel that counts for something.

mainly feels nice now I can put goring blade with FOF which gives me better room for putting my defensives instead in the same area.

I personally would like them to reduce down more space even further, as I think the job could do with some new actual skills in the future.
Such as:
Holy Circle becomes a Cleave upgrade for Holy Spirit.
Holy Sheltron becomes targetable (so you don't need intervention).
Low Blow & Interject merged so it becomes a stun but if fails it interrupts still.
Circle of scorn removed, Replace with a ogcd shield bash imo.

Would come with other changes, such as I think Defensives shouldn't have two stacked mitigation effects (In general i dislike the weird mitigation stacks short CDs have), feels kind of weird to have a 15% + 15% it could be just a 25%-30% mit so that placing two sheltrons on double tank buster would still be workable (with recast being 3s).

i like the idea of Circle of Scorn being replaced with a AOE shield bash that ricochets against all enemies within range, animation wise that'd be so sick.

Circle of Scorn animation is a bit dated, a glow up would be welcome, same for Goring blade.
Outside of that I'm a bit confused that PLD's gauge hasn't been updated to include Divine Might (Same goes with Warrior and their damage buff) since they don't want us to look at buff/debuff as much as before.

But yeah, Atonment definitely feels nice and since the animations change, it's clearer to keep track of the number of atonment has been casted.

Outside of that, since PLD received a rework very recently I didn't expected any job change.

Its animations are beautiful, but the job is really, really boring and has been ever since its 6.3 rework. It desperately needs room for skill expression, as it stands it may be the single easiest job to play in the game, bar none.

Personally a huge fan of Paladin as a tank that excels in situations where things arent optimal, where you have a lot of utility that can turn a bad situation around. More buttons onegai.

I still miss having combo variety with the DoT management, but I don't mind too much since it was still very low effort to maintain. Circle of Scorn is almost definitely the next ability to get an upgrade, its the last holdover.

Also, as a PLD only guy, Guardian needs an adjustment or full redesign, its a bit too silly powerful right now in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by velswen

Its animations are beautiful, but the job is really, really boring and has been ever since its 6.3 rework. It desperately needs room for skill expression, as it stands it may be the single easiest job to play in the game, bar none.

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That doesn't really show itself in results, PLD has a pretty standard gap between average and high end dps. WAR has by far the smallest gap between those, for a long time.

Paladin is one of my favorite tanks but does anyone else think circle of scorn needs to be buffed by..like..a lot? I swear the initial hit does less damage than an auto attack, and its total potency with the dot included...is 290, less than Riot Blade!!!!

Paladin does feel really fun to play now, was kinda worried when they announced a rework in 6.3 but I was happy to be proven wrong. Only thing I will say is that I wanted something to be done with circle of scorn, shield bash, and cover. Circle of scorn is ok: the animation is cool but I thought it was time for a facelift considering spirits within became expiacion in endwalker.

Shield bash and cover feel very situational though, and most of the time they're there on my hotbar, gathering dust, which is a shame cause I do want to use them but no situation calls for it unless a run is going really bad, and even then paladin, has a bunch of other tools they can use instead of these two.

Still one of my favorite jobs in FFXIV though and will continue to main it :D

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Originally Posted by Doomfist

Paladin is one of my favorite tanks but does anyone else think circle of scorn needs to be buffed by..like..a lot? I swear the initial hit does less damage than an auto attack, and its total potency with the dot included...is 290, less than Riot Blade!!!!

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I would have bet money on it getting an upgrade in Dawntrail...

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Originally Posted by velswen

Its animations are beautiful, but the job is really, really boring and has been ever since its 6.3 rework. It desperately needs room for skill expression, as it stands it may be the single easiest job to play in the game, bar none.

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It was my main until the rework, at which point I switched to GNB due to finding the new version of PLD super boring in comparison, but the Dawntrail changes have helped a little.

With the atonement combo, you now prioritise sepulchre over holy spirit in FoF windows - so there is a little bit of room for skill expression in terms of optimising the order that you burn skills to increase the number of supplication > sepulchre > holy spirit bursts, but I agree that it could do with a bit more.