Whispering Dawn desperately needs a buff like Physis 2

It was forgotten in Endwalker, and yet again forgotten in Dawntrail.

Physis 2 combines half of Fey Illumination (on a 2min cooldown, reminder) and almost double the potency of Whispering Dawn's healing in a single button. This is just clunky and if the two buttons HAVE to exist, then at least upgrade Whispering Dawn to something that is not a 15 yalms 3k heal every tick, not when the HP bars go beyond 100k HP now.

1) SCH is already the strongest healer in the game and does not need a buff.
2) Further homogeny of healers is absolutely not needed.

let's have all jobs do the something so we change job for aesthetic and weapon animation..
I can't wait to see that coming

You can't compare scholar and sage's strengths ability by ability because they just have different toolkits. They enough similarities to compare some stuff but you get ot the point where you're comparing holos to seraph and wondering if fey blessing even exists in sage's toolkit and it's just a mess.

But the one thing that can be said is sage is king of never using GCD's right now where as scholar has to GCD heal to get their raw power out in the form of deployments but those deployments are a lot stronger than a normal concitation or eukrasian prog 2

You don’t have to change the potency, but I would like the radius to be not 15 yalms, but more. I understand that we can control the fairy and place her anywhere, BUT the last savag and ex were terribly inconvenient to heal when you have to compromise and instead of 8 players you have to heal 4, as always. When you have the opportunity to use Whispering Dawn only on half the party.. I feel sad.. when Saga can stand in the corner of the arena and reach everyone in Physis II...

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Originally Posted by Innio

You don’t have to change the potency, but I would like the radius to be not 15 yalms, but more. I understand that we can control the fairy and place her anywhere, BUT the last savag and ex were terribly inconvenient to heal when you have to compromise and instead of 8 players you have to heal 4, as always. When you have the opportunity to use Whispering Dawn only on half the party.. I feel sad.. when Saga can stand in the corner of the arena and reach everyone in Physis II...

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That feels like something that’s wrong with SGE not SCH

what’s the point of having a totem healer when the “heals from self” healer can hit the next instance over with every heal they have

SCH doesn't need WD to be buffed.

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Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

1) SCH is already the strongest healer in the game and does not need a buff.
2) Further homogeny of healers is absolutely not needed.

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Originally Posted by Tunda

let's have all jobs do the something so we change job for aesthetic and weapon animation..
I can't wait to see that coming

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They're not saying that Whispering Dawn should just become the same ability, they're saying Physis II is just the stronger of the two, and they are very much analogous to each other already. Reading comprehension is hard, I guess.

Also, when a bunch of stuff got their radius upgraded (including Physis and Physis II), Whispering Dawn didn't. Which is hilarious, because it's already difficult to manage positioning because it's coming from the fairy, so Whispering Dawn probably would've benefitted the most from a radius upgrade.

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Originally Posted by Bibine_Bine

They're not saying that Whispering Dawn should just become the same ability, they're saying Physis II is just the stronger of the two, and they are very much analogous to each other already. Reading comprehension is hard, I guess.

Also, when a bunch of stuff got their radius upgraded (including Physis and Physis II), Whispering Dawn didn't. Which is hilarious, because it's already difficult to manage positioning because it's coming from the fairy, so Whispering Dawn probably would've benefitted the most from a radius upgrade.

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Reading comprehension is hard because nowhere in my statement did I say to make them the same. Making a smart ass comment only works if you're actually smart.

Whispering Dawn doesn't need a radius increase BECAUSE it's centered on the Fairy and can actually be placed to cover the majority of the arena. God forbid a healer require some modicum of skill to figure out how to make their abilities can actually connect

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Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

Reading comprehension is hard because nowhere in my statement did I say to make them the same. Making a smart ass comment only works if you're actually smart.

Whispering Dawn doesn't need a radius increase BECAUSE it's centered on the Fairy and can actually be placed to cover the majority of the arena. God forbid a healer require some modicum of skill to figure out how to make their abilities can actually connect

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Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

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2) Further homogeny of healers is absolutely not needed.

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And as was stated here:

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Originally Posted by Innio

You don’t have to change the potency, but I would like the radius to be not 15 yalms, but more. I understand that we can control the fairy and place her anywhere, BUT the last savag and ex were terribly inconvenient to heal when you have to compromise and instead of 8 players you have to heal 4, as always. When you have the opportunity to use Whispering Dawn only on half the party.. I feel sad.. when Saga can stand in the corner of the arena and reach everyone in Physis II...

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Sometimes you have situations where, even with proper fairy positioning, it will still not hit all of the raid, whereas with Physis II you can literally just sit in one of the split groups and hit everyone no problem.

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Originally Posted by Bibine_Bine

And as was stated here:

Sometimes you have situations where, even with proper fairy positioning, it will still not hit all of the raid, whereas with Physis II you can literally just sit in one of the split groups and hit everyone no problem.

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Would you not count making Whispering Dawn 30m to match Physis as Homogenizing healers further? I do and am adamantly against it. Healing is already dull as is without making every single skill even more idiot proof than they already are and I would prefer we look at alternative ways to make Healers actually distinct from one another instead of just smoothing them out even more

Only reason physis got changed to 30y was because of the buff aoe changes they made a while ago,
should fey also have 30y, I agree it should. Should whispering get it also, most likely my answer would be no.

Your aoe shields are 15y, your indom is 15y your soil is 15y.
If you are comparing whispering to kerachole you are comparing the wrong ability, kerachole is comparable to expedient which has the same 30y radius.
But kerachole has a regen! yes it does as a side effect that consists of 60% of our healing, the only reason it has the radius is because of the mitigation part not the regen.

Personally beside the fey illumination change I feel they are fine.
I feel like the pet not returning to placed position after eating it or abilities completely locking you out of part of your healing kit are worse problems then whispering or fey not being 30y.
I can where you are coming from but I do not agree.

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Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

1) SCH is already the strongest healer in the game and does not need a buff.

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Because it has CS, not because SGE has better versions of the fairy abilities. Don't think too many would mind if one of them was traded or fused together to make room for another DoT, especially the two-minute CD that buffs the healing potency of six non-healers.