Jumping on dead players

If you pvp regularly, you have probably been killed and had an enemy come over and jump up and down on your body as you respawn. That or you've had someone on your team who did it. What are your thoughts on it?

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Originally Posted by Gunz_Zbestest

If you pvp regularly, you have probably been killed and had an enemy come over and jump up and down on your body as you respawn. That or you've had someone on your team who did it. What are your thoughts on it?

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Reflective of a profoundly childish mentality that infects FL and in principle liable to a 10-day suspension.

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Originally Posted by Gunz_Zbestest

If you pvp regularly, you have probably been killed and had an enemy come over and jump up and down on your body as you respawn. That or you've had someone on your team who did it. What are your thoughts on it?

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A little bit of spite, a little bit of malice, and the though that if I keep catching them doing it I have every right to toss a GM at them for toxic conduct. Overall, try not to stoop to their level, get better and decimate them till they aren't targeting you anymore or what is harder, try to not care much about it :)

Pretty difficult to report without a video or screenshot of it happening. They don't seem to keen to take any real action on reports like this.

The usual offenders especially in Frontlines who complain or start arguements constantly can't seem to get purged. Or the few angry people in Casual CC (Yes, casual CC.) who throw target to ignore on people removed. Probably just depends on whoever is dealing with the ticket at the time and how willing they are to investigate it.

Any competition comes with the possibility of showboating. Is it toxic and something to get banned over? I never thought of it that way, seems a bit extreme. Is it poor sportsmanship? Absolutely, and rivalries are created because of it.

There will always be some form of creative expression people come up with after finally getting to KO that pest who has been farming you for so long.

If I sent a report everytime someone elixired or jumped on my corpse, half of my /playtime would just be filing reports lol. Just get them back next time. They'll want to do the same, and you both will start learning your jobs better to one up eachother the next time.

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Originally Posted by Gunz_Zbestest

If you pvp regularly, you have probably been killed and had an enemy come over and jump up and down on your body as you respawn. That or you've had someone on your team who did it. What are your thoughts on it?

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Nothing, because this usually done by players that is half baked in PvP,
Usually not top performance and just hid behind and do kill steal
If you find another one doing this to your, it is simple to counter it
Create a countdown macro on this player and he will be focus left and right due to FF14 Frontline PvP's mob mentality

Such thin skin. It's called taunting and is normal within competitive settings. (within reason)

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Originally Posted by MeeDeggiThePunisher

Such thin skin. It's called taunting and is normal within competitive settings. (within reason)

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Actually, it isn't. Even EVE Online pretends to care about taunting. See also: NFL.

That said, I agree it's not worth getting bent out of shape because of it. That's simply feeding the troll. And probably inevitable behavior in a 13+ game.

Tea bagging has been a thing since at least Modern Warfare 2. Chances are if someone is doing this to you they're not all that young actually, they're probably a guy in their 40's lol..Anyways, it's part of PVP. I get people doing it to me sometimes, after they've been focusing on me for the entire match, or multiple matches or whatever. They care a lot more about me than I do about them. I just reciprocate in the most friendly EULA friendly way possible after I kill them the next time and then I'll probably never recognize their name again.

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Originally Posted by Gunz_Zbestest

If you pvp regularly, you have probably been killed and had an enemy come over and jump up and down on your body as you respawn. That or you've had someone on your team who did it. What are your thoughts on it?

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It's a waste of time. I gladly welcome people to jump on my corpse if they manage to kill me, because every second they're wasting on doing that is one second wasted on not pushing their 5v4 advantage.

If it's annoying and constant, it is a reportable offense.

Depends on the context, if a person does this for every kill then thats annoying and should be stopped.

But if this person was hunted by a group of people or even just one person and managed to overcome those hunters and then jumps on the hunters corpses, then imo thats part of the game. Those hunters thought you were easy prey, and you weren't, you're just making sure their pride gets hit and that's part of the game and the fun.

Please jump on my body
And emote
And run around in circles
Please fully channel a standard issue elixir on my corpse even though you have near full hp+mana
You should also use guard and purify and other abilities that don't require a target
In fact when my body disappears you should come over to my base and wait for me to respawn
You should especially do this in ranked matches
I think they should make it so you can whisper players that you kill mid match if you solve a captcha or similar each time you want to do it (just so you can't use a macro to do it every time)
They could make in an opt-in thing so that they can't just whisper anyone and everyone, just me and whoever else wants these time consuming tells

I usually don't care that much when it happens.
He may be proud of his behavior but in PvP you can't expect to be alive trough the entire timer so it has no meaning. Besides, it's rarely because of a 1vs1 scenario. So it's not like it's an earned victory.


So he may expect me to be angry but I just respawn when possible and keep playing. I don't bother.

Do this when playing sam. This is the equivalent of a taunt so you can do easier lbs with your newfound aggro and getting hit.

Other than that it just shows that the teabagger was tilted enough to do that to you, which is telling enough already. Or just that the two people might know each other and are poking one another.

Good Lord. It happens in very single PVP game, whomever does it is just making a fool of themselves. They're wasting time, and while I'm lying there I'm usually thinking more about how stupid they look, since as someone else has already said - everyone dies in PvP.

Now, should they seem to be making things personal, I will note their name. I assume in that case that they have a deathwish.;)

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Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas

Good Lord. It happens in very single PVP game, whomever does it is just making a fool of themselves. They're wasting time, and while I'm lying there I'm usually thinking more about how stupid they look, since as someone else has already said - everyone dies in PvP.

Now, should they seem to be making things personal, I will note their name. I assume in that case that they have a deathwish.;)

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Hahaha! Bravo!

I've done this, especially in CC. It's all about getting in their head, having them hard focus me, and them making a mistake that causes their team to lose. It happens pretty frequently TBH.

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Originally Posted by Menriq

I've done this, especially in CC. It's all about getting in their head, having them hard focus me, and them making a mistake that causes their team to lose. It happens pretty frequently TBH.

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It's so funny because I've had some random jump on my dead body in ranked CC, then their team lost the next fight, so I jumped on their body because it's funny.

Then they got so tilted that they hard locked onto me for the entire match and lost the game because they were going on a walk with me instead of using their LB to help their team.

Seeing that items were restricted from being used in pvp matched and emoting during a pvp match became a reportable offense solely because of BMing I find it hilarious that people are finding new ways to get people salty. Pretty soon, it's going to become people standing over dead bodies, and the salt isn't going to go away. Your only possible option is to not let it get to you, because this is one of only rules that's going to get bypassed regardless of how many rules are put into place regarding bad manners. After all, that type of behavior only exists to cause mental damage to others which is why it's heavily looked downed upon to begin with.

With that said there are obviously mixed reactions when it comes to this in tournaments. In fighting games, it is widely accepted as long as it isn't being used to stall matches, while in team-based games like League of Legends the behavior can get the entire team fined and/or outright disqualified from the match being played.

Competition is fun sometimes lol. It just means I have to be better at not dying when it happens. Lol. Dont take it personal

If you can’t take a little teabagging and feel the need to report, you’re over sensitive with a dose of social issues and probably shouldn’t be in pvp in the first place. Grow a thicker skin. Life works like that too sometimes. Suck it up.

I dunno. Far as I’m concerned, corpse jumping is part of the passion and excitement. And yep, when I get up, I’m on your butt like a rabid dog haha. Winning/losing matches means very little to me anymore, but rivalries, duels, grudges, that’s where the delicious thrill of pvp is at, cuz that’s where the necessity of skill truely comes to the fore.

I remember back during 3.0 (I think) when we could still use items. I’d meteor someone (ARR meteor splash circle that stayed on the ground for 5-6 seconds), Crimson Lotus dance on em while using those green hand sparklers. Oooh the sweet cuss-outs I’d get after matches XD. Let’s see. . .then there was the elephant stomp. . .the push up over face (ahem) and my favorite, the sit on face and changepose spam. Nowadays, we have the sweep and yellow paint brush for added fun. GMable? Aaaaaaabsolutely. But DAMN if it wasn’t fun haha.

Teabagging just means ‘You got caught.’ Aced. Perhaps you were being a little anklebiter, sniping too many people at 1% then scampering off when someone looked at you. Healing someone’s target ooone time too many. Chasing someone to the ends of the world til you got surrounded. The list goes on. It’s just a way of saying ‘Ahhhh, that’s what you get.” Part of the fun.

To each his own. I prefer rivals and enemies more than friends >_>

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Originally Posted by Mawlzy

Reflective of a profoundly childish mentality that infects FL and in principle liable to a 10-day suspension.

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This is an insane take. As someone who easily gets triggered when someone does it to me (and it happens often since I always get BH5 and love solo pushing) I would never want the person to get a suspension over it. It's really not that serious.

I just make sure to get revenge and jump on their corpse too. Sure it's childish but we're all playing a game at the end of the day...

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Originally Posted by Roguewaves

This is an insane take. As someone who easily gets triggered when someone does it to me (and it happens often since I always get BH5 and love solo pushing) I would never want the person to get a suspension over it. It's really not that serious.

I just make sure to get revenge and jump on their corpse too. Sure it's childish but we're all playing a game at the end of the day...

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I'd never report anyone for it either, the point of mentioning the possibility is that SQEX does actually take it seriously. This was more of a reminder that you can get suspended for such behavior; I'm certainly not advocating for reporting it. Got better things to do.

Some people will do it to Ninjas and Samurai if their LBs kill them.

Players do this all the time in any pvp setting (or pvp game). You need to grow thicker skin or avoid pvp in any game. People taunt, people get angry, people get frustrated, people have “hell yeah!” moments. It’s called human nature. You’re playing a competitive mode so obviously emotions come in to play.


Personally, if someone did it to me, it makes me try that much harder to win and be better so that it won’t happen again. I won’t bother reporting them because it’s literally nothing to cry over. The only time I report is if it’s a constant thing thru multiple game instances (they’re clearly harassing me).

It can be fun. I remember some guy doing (1) frame of the yellow paint animation on me whenever he killed me and it got funnier every time.

My favorite past time in FL is to /Moonlift Dance meta picks on the ground. Alternatively /Gratuity.

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Originally Posted by Gunz_Zbestest

If you pvp regularly, you have probably been killed and had an enemy come over and jump up and down on your body as you respawn. That or you've had someone on your team who did it. What are your thoughts on it?

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Kill them back, then sit on the body

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Originally Posted by Gunz_Zbestest

If you pvp regularly, you have probably been killed and had an enemy come over and jump up and down on your body as you respawn. That or you've had someone on your team who did it. What are your thoughts on it?

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Should be a timewaster and pointless, they put themselves farther behind unless they're intentionally doing that to attack someone's mentality to engage in repeated skirmishes (effectively an aggro strategy using real life provoke).

Mental warfare is a thing in any PvP game. Whoever's mental slips up the most generally lose more games. Don't take it too seriously outside of matches. Everything in PvP is just a game.

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Originally Posted by AnotherPerson

Should be a timewaster and pointless, they put themselves farther behind unless they're intentionally doing that to attack someone's mentality to engage in repeated skirmishes (effectively an aggro strategy using real life provoke).

Mental warfare is a thing in any PvP game. Whoever's mental slips up the most generally lose more games. Don't take it too seriously outside of matches. Everything in PvP is just a game.

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It's a risk to take for something that might not even work. If the person you do it to doesn't tilt, you've effectively wasted the time you had to push your team's advantage.

That's why I hate when people do this in ranked matches, it's a waste of time that may or may not yield benefit.

I laugh and go "Ah they got me haha well played" like I have done since the first time I was teabagged on Blood Gulch in Halo: Combat Evolved 23 years ago.

Every time someone does that to me, i actually smile because by that action they reveal that it is a great achievement to them to have killed me 4vsMe. Thus they must think that i am a exceptional player.

They are just super happy that they finally got you so at some point you must have sparked their anger/attention/jealousy.

Also doing squads on a Male character is kind of a selfown especially with a Female character. (You know who you are)

That's just being teabagged, has been happening since the halo/CoD days

Wait?
First: Do you guys can see who killed you? Sometimes players don't even load in the screen when playing pvp...you can be literally killed by ghosts. lol

Second: a problem?
Easy one: Hunt them and kill them too. You can make some cute emote to make them feel loved or reflexive. Sometimes you can end up a fight with a hug.
Normal one: Don't take things personally. It's a game like others and enjoy the moment. I'm happy to have random real players do playing it instead of bots literally burning you down in seconds and going kill another. Mortal Kombat literally mocks people with Fatalities. That makes the game more fun. lol
Expert one: Don't die. lol

The only reason that gesturing of any kind in relation to a downed opponent is a problem is because XIV's PvP is not skill based (just like the rest of the game), nor is it in any way a fair contest. And whilst they will never acknowledge PvP's systemic flaw publicly, they do punish actions on KO'd opponents on that basis.

Having someone celebrate or gloat in any manner because you were KO'd in what is almost entirely a luck-based mode, is the cause of it being annoying. It's entirely possible for 'the gloater' to not even realise that they may have contributed as little as 4% of damage to a KO, amongst 3 of their other teammates. Even in 1v1, the PvP stuff is just too fast of a skill spam to be respectably quantifiable.

No one ever complained in CSGO of such things, because that was a quantifiable game with a set structure (rip 2000-2017). You can try and say 1v1 is fair between 2 of the same job- but positioning doesn't count for anything. You're basically counting on the other person to make a mistake and press a button at the wrong time, do it too slow, or forget altogether. There's no skill ceiling that enables you to do something *better* than someone else. It's either 1 or 0 in XIV, you did something or you didn't. There is no capacity for how and out-howing someone else. And thus having someone emote or jump on you when they didn't out-how you, is annoying. They are celebrating that you didn't press a button at a particular point, akin to celebrating you causing a raid to wipe because you missed a tiny bit of dps or something.

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Originally Posted by Zofian

The only reason that gesturing of any kind in relation to a downed opponent is a problem is because XIV's PvP is not skill based (just like the rest of the game), nor is it in any way a fair contest. And whilst they will never acknowledge PvP's systemic flaw publicly, they do punish actions on KO'd opponents on that basis.

Having someone celebrate or gloat in any manner because you were KO'd in what is almost entirely a luck-based mode, is the cause of it being annoying. It's entirely possible for 'the gloater' to not even realise that they may have contributed as little as 4% of damage to a KO, amongst 3 of their other teammates. Even in 1v1, the PvP stuff is just too fast of a skill spam to be respectably quantifiable.

No one ever complained in CSGO of such things, because that was a quantifiable game with a set structure (rip 2000-2017). You can try and say 1v1 is fair between 2 of the same job- but positioning doesn't count for anything. You're basically counting on the other person to make a mistake and press a button at the wrong time, do it too slow, or forget altogether. There's no skill ceiling that enables you to do something *better* than someone else. It's either 1 or 0 in XIV, you did something or you didn't. There is no capacity for how and out-howing someone else. And thus having someone emote or jump on you when they didn't out-how you, is annoying. They are celebrating that you didn't press a button at a particular point, akin to celebrating you causing a raid to wipe because you missed a tiny bit of dps or something.

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Sorry, but Crystaline Conflict makes me disagree with this. In isolated duels, where there are legitimate 1 vs 1s, no back up, skill is definitely a thing. As between say, reapers and plds who can’t break 200k dps, and those that can push 800-1 mil. HUGE difference in skill/output. There are enough mechanics in these jobs to form particular styles and rhythms.

People that get upset over stuff like this makes me wonder what happened to the average player.. Does no one remember CoD teabagging? Friendly banter is now offensive... >_> just grow some skin

My opinion is.
This is not a problem that players are causing. It is something SE is responsible for.
They provide emotes like slaps!
Of course players use the jumping emote on defeated opponents to shame them. What did SE expect from a content that is so driven by emotions?
Personally, I don't care if someone does it to me. I always think that this player must have a sad life if something like that satisfies him.

My stance is; Play obnoxiously, get T-bagged.

I don't care how against ToS it is. If you're going to chase me halfway across the map in frontlines for no particular reason, or park yourself at spawn to attack people you earned it. When you choose to ignore objectives just to harass one player the entire match, or to deliberately make yourself a nuissance, regardless of it being CC/RW/FL expect to get my sack in your face when you get downed.