So, why cant I wear hats?

So its the new expansion where all races finally are fully done.

Why the heck cant I even wear HATS FROM THIS VERY EXPANSION?

thats hardly fair, I understand older hats not being available but these were ones that were created WHEN viera and hrothgar were about.

this is sort of unacceptable.

It's almost like the people designing gear don't know that races other than Hyur exist in the game.

I am disappointed that all those sacrifices of characters’ features on the road to unify everyone and use the same head morph - did not do anything to solve this problem still.

I'm honestly worried that my blackmage and red mage wont be able to wear their hat, which is iconic for the job.

Because your hair doesn't have a model to change into when wearing a hat that would impede the fluff.

"we made the changes to viera/hrothgar heads to make hats work, please wait a bit more and look forward to it." -devs in 2020-2024.

Four plus years of "look forward to it."
But don't worry guys, you can wait 4 more, right?

It's stuff like this which make me lose faith in xiv. It's always 1 step forward, 1 step back with square enix.

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

It's almost like the people designing gear don't know that races other than Hyur exist in the game.

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oh they know, they teased us viera users by allowing us to wear the power ranger helm only to not let us use any other helmet after

Incredibly disappointing...I would like a crumb of hat please.

the excuse is ears clipping but i don't think people care that much to begin with when everything in this game clips. i saw krile's hood clip with her paintbrush in a cutscene

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Originally Posted by grinkdaboy

the excuse is ears clipping but i don't think people care that much to begin with when everything in this game clips. i saw krile's hood clip with her paintbrush in a cutscene

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they made hat holes for Miqo'te, I dont see why this is any different?

They should just hide the bunny ears and let them wear hats. It's so dumb that after all this time vieras still can't wear them.

If they had even just given Viera and Hrothgar the latest hats for job specific gear, I'd have probably used my free fantasia to switch back to Hrothgar. But since they continue to be lazy, I will hold onto it for now.

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Originally Posted by MichiKyou

they made hat holes for Miqo'te, I dont see why this is any different?

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well the difference is that miqote ears are on the sides near the back of their head, our ears are located on the crown of our skull, i believe this is why au ra were also designed to have horns on the sides of their heads rather sitting on top (like a satyr or something or other) so most hats will have the ears clip through them. the few hats that do support viera ears (like the imperial hats from ew) have them clip through them rather cleanly so i guess that's another part of it.

Small indie company, please understand.

But the -new items- could have been remodelled with this in mind?

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Originally Posted by MichiKyou

But the -new items- could have been remodelled with this in mind?

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Could have and should have been but they were not.

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Originally Posted by PaulusHamsteru

They should just hide the bunny ears and let them wear hats. It's so dumb that after all this time vieras still can't wear them.

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Tie them and make them into a low ponytail

Honestly, just let the ears clip through, it'll look like there are holes anyway and difference of actually making holes is very minute compared to the absurd self imposed difficulty of remodeling every helmet for every build, ear type, hairstyle and whatever for every race with things on their heads.

Squex needs to be far more pragmatic and efficient with their quality standards.

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Originally Posted by Wildheaven182

Honestly, just let the ears clip through, it'll look like there are holes anyway and difference of actually making holes is very minute compared to the absurd self imposed difficulty of remodeling every helmet for every build, ear type, hairstyle and whatever for every race with things on their heads.

Squex needs to be far more pragmatic and efficient with their quality standards.

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They're applying ffxvi-like standards to ffxiv; yet they were fine with ps1 textures on clothing like Rauhban's cape for years.

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Originally Posted by Wildheaven182

Honestly, just let the ears clip through, it'll look like there are holes anyway and difference of actually making holes is very minute compared to the absurd self imposed difficulty of remodeling every helmet for every build, ear type, hairstyle and whatever for every race with things on their heads.

Squex needs to be far more pragmatic and efficient with their quality standards.

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As someone who messed with textool before, it's a bit complicated, due the ear is TIED with the hairstyles, and hairstyles change when wearing a hat.

While there are mod that allow viera/hrothgar wear hat, but that only extend to the vanilla hairstyle of this game.

In case you have noticed, any of community made viera/hrothgar's hair mods seems to have a similiar issue as well and not being hat compatible too.

Fairly certain they lost the devs working on the original character models and au ra. Seeing how neither miqo'te ears or au ra horns were an issue for them.

This insistence on not just letting things clip for viera regarding the ears have only made things more messy for them...

Same goes for Hroth, their face shape isn't that much different from the other races. At worst a slightly squashed muzzle for closed and semi-closed helmets.

At the very least, anything achievement based/cash shop should work on any race in this game.

If they can globally address and fix that stupid 2B butt leggings "issue" as quick as they did, there is no excuse for the current state of Viera/Hroth.

They sure like to talk a big game about making sure jobs are identifiable in their AF gear and how much love and care they take into the designs, and yet a third of their races can't even wear some of the more iconic features of that equipment, and until they address that, I don't believe a single sentiment that comes from them on that subject.

I gave up hope as soon as I noticed that they locked femhroth hairstyles to faces. You know, the same idiotic thing they pulled with male hrothgar on release. The same thing that people complained about until they were forced to fix it. The same thing they JUST fixed. I couldn't stop laughing when I saw it, are they serious? Locking hairstyles on a race with <10 to begin with for the second time in a row is some big brain stuff.

The unfortunate truth as to why things like this keep happening is that SE straight up does not care even a little bit. They're content to leave two races unfinished for as long as they can get away with it instead of spending the resources to bring them up to the same standard as everyone else.

Seems strange honestly... How one person can fix this, as a 3d modeller myself even I could fix this all in a week lol

I'm fortunate that there's not many hats or head pieces I liked to wear to begin with on my miqo'te, so the lack of them on hrothgar wasn't going to affect me personally. (The face and hairstyle locking though... ugh.)

But it still absolutely sucks that other people who *do* want to wear those head pieces (hrothgar and viera alike) are still being throttled after all these years, or how despite knowing it was a problem already, they still dived head first into doing it *again* with female hrothgar showing they hadn't made any progress with the issue previously.

I changed knowing that some hats would still be unwearable. What I didn't expect was that in the expansion that Female Hrothgar's were being released in couldn't even wear the new hats...I just want my Cowboy hat SE....that's all I ask....

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Originally Posted by FlatLined

I changed knowing that some hats would still be unwearable. What I didn't expect was that in the expansion that Female Hrothgar's were being released in couldn't even wear the new hats...I just want my Cowboy hat SE....that's all I ask....

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It really does speak volumes that they KNEW the limitations for male Hrothgar and knew players were unhappy about it, and yet they decided to design females with the same exact limitations that males started out with, down to the faces and hairstyles. They are so far removed from reality at this point it's unreal. Heck, if they had fixed any of these things, even just for females, I'd have been tempted to switch.