Au Ra scale graphical issue still present in graphical update

Hello,

After several threads about this and some improvement between the first and second benchmarks, the issue with jpeg artifacting or a texture mismatch at the edge of Au Ra scales is still present.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRN_1ZaX...png&name=small

(Example on Xaela face 4 but face shouldn't be a factor)

As before, this is only really noticeable on darker skin tones and likely slipped through as a result. Apologies if there's another recent thread for this, I didn't see it in some scrolling and term searching.

Not to mention this egregious issue with hands that was not present in the benchmark and is much, much more obvious than the neck scales:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GROHrtJW...g&name=900x900

This one is present and obvious on lighter skin as well

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GROIzMhW...g&name=360x360

The hand issue is present for both Xaela and Raen - I have not checked the neck scale border issue on darker skinned Raen.

Edited to update for more permanent image links (aka not discord) and that the hand issue is present on Raen, not just Xaela.

Bump. My aura looks terrible. Please fix him se
https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...eb46714543fdf&

His eyes are beady and his lips don't match his skin colour

Gonna actually say that it *isn't* just Xaela having the hand-texture issue at least. This color bleed is *insane* on my darker skinned Raen omg.
https://i.imgur.com/PLouJNG.png

This is extremely visible regardless of skin color. I have to wonder how this managed to get past development.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRPVjuwW...png&name=small

It's even more apparent in this pose.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRPVju4W...pg&name=medium

Please fix it.

https://i.imgur.com/S9Kd3Rf.png

Posting my Raen here too to show how the hand texture issue looks against a purple-y skin tone! The jagged pixelated dark border around the scales all over on the body doesn't look too great either and looks especially bad on Xaela characters, considering the edges on the scales on the pre-Dawntrail models were much smoother.
https://i.postimg.cc/G236b9gF/aria.png

Throwing another lighter skin Au Ra onto the pile. The hand issue is much less obvious for me, but still perfectly visible once I knew to look for it. And the scale outlines are just incredibly janky.https://i.postimg.cc/wMv4Wr3h/Dawntr...e-textures.png

Bump, hopefully they can fix this soon.

No picture to illustrate but the pink edges on raen horns are really wonky too. It's supposed to look like they're slightly translucent but the pink effect is way too strong.

Au Ra face 2 is barely recognisable - round face shape gone, eyes look dead, mouth choices are pursed lips or look inflated. Overall it looks like they had an allergic reaction, I don't know why they changed it so much unnecessarily, especially since I've played this character for years

https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...398&height=350
This is so sad :(

https://i.imgur.com/ggv32mo.jpeg


These have ruined many gposes already. Square, pls fix

http://imgur.com/a/1wBjFPV

I think my Au Ra looks cute with the new graphics update but these hands disturb me. It'd be nice if this gets fixed.

If you haven't already, please post this in the bug reports section. They actually send stuff over there to the people who can fix it.

It's really annoying... I hope it gets fixed soon.

https://i.imgur.com/SeUpNe4.png https://i.imgur.com/kqdbXdT.png

I also opened a thread both in general and now in bug reports: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...on-Au-Ra-hands

I think this might be a graphics card, or graphic settings issue, I see nothing like this at all on my Au Ra.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

I think this might be a graphics card, or graphic settings issue, I see nothing like this at all on my Au Ra.

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It's a xaela thing. Poorly done work for their scales in particular.

I hope they can also fix THIS:

https://i.ibb.co/ctsqbqS/buggedhair.png

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

It's a xaela thing. Poorly done work for their scales in particular.

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It is also present on my Raen. It may be harder for them to see on their Au Ra because of the already light skin, is my guess.

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Originally Posted by Pach

It is also present on my Raen. It may be harder for them to see on their Au Ra because of the already light skin, is my guess.

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Must be so, yeah. How did it even get past quality control (if there even is any)? Particularly on how egregious it is on xaela.

It becomes really quite obvious with darker skintones. Tried outlining where the scales actually end. Submitted the same screen to the bug report thread

https://i.imgur.com/sqjBGEK.png

Hello, i am red and the hand issue is very apparent on me :((( sad tomato. You can also see the poor quality around the scales

https://i.imgur.com/Sx9EP1p.png?1

I went and did some research on this, and at least have a vague understanding of what might be going on. Apparently characters have three kinds of textures... a diffuse layer, a normal layer, and another one that does fancy shader stuff that I don't really understand. But the thing happening with our (au ra) pink patches LOOKS like something I saw get brought up when the normal layer is mapping out scales that don't exist on the diffuse.

Take into account I'm not a dev and don't really know how this game does its magic, I'm kind of just parroting. The point is that it's a weird problem that I don't know how it got past QC lol

i fanta'd from au ra to viera because of the changes, they just look so awful to me now. i didnt know they would be messing with the width of the eyes etc. i liked how au ra looked sharp before, now their faces kind of just look like soft blobs

its a multi issue, seems in ffxiv's case they use the red channel to mark where to apply skin tone selection for the diffuse,
lets you mask out stuff you dont want the color/texture/material to be applied to, like scales, lips, teeth, and whatever else your game may have in use
but that red channel doesn't match the scales, so you either get scales dyed the skin color, or in this case: undyed skin

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Originally Posted by Petroglyph

I went and did some research on this, and at least have a vague understanding of what might be going on. Apparently characters have three kinds of textures... a diffuse layer, a normal layer, and another one that does fancy shader stuff that I don't really understand. But the thing happening with our (au ra) pink patches LOOKS like something I saw get brought up when the normal layer is mapping out scales that don't exist on the diffuse.

Take into account I'm not a dev and don't really know how this game does its magic, I'm kind of just parroting. The point is that it's a weird problem that I don't know how it got past QC lol

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It's a simple texture error.
A small area that isn't "colored" correctly in one of the texture channels so user chosen skin color influence does not translate to that particular area.
This is trivial in nature to fix and it boggles the mind how it got past QC in the first place.

Then again, SE is using shitty DXT-1 texture compression that is riddled with green-ish compression artifacts. Especially visible on Elezen faces.

W T F SE, seriously was that necessary just to cling to ~4GB VRAM use to grandfather in potato PCs?!