[Feedback] Female Au'ra face 2 mouth 1

In my personal opinion the mouth shape change was too much and has completely changed the overall appearance of my character to someone else. Personally I would strongly prefer the old mouth shape to preserve the character I have come to know and have become attached to over the years.

I have provided a comparison between 6.xx, the new 7.0 and 7.0 but with the 6.xx mouth edited on top.

6.xx
https://i.imgur.com/eiJ1EJy.png

7.0
https://i.imgur.com/N5zZj5b.png

7.0 with 6.xx mouth edited on top
https://i.imgur.com/wCs6sPm.png

6.xx - 7.00 - 7.00 with 6.xx mouth edited on gif
https://i.imgur.com/UWDaWxc.gif

6.xx - 7.00 gif
https://i.imgur.com/2HPLbbk.gif

7.00 - 7.00 with 6.xx mouth edited on gif
https://i.imgur.com/uTA0zSo.gif

6.xx - 7.00 with 6.xx mouth edited on gif
https://i.imgur.com/iyrgfVM.gif

So you can see from the comparisons the major difference is the mouth shape with barely any difference between the pre-update and post-update with the old mouth edited on apart from the size of the pupils and some reflection in the eyes.

I know it can look subtle but in game it is a very jarring change and I believe preserving the old mouth shapes or closer to would help players retain their character they have grown attached to for many years rather than seeing a completely new character after 7.0.

Thank you

This looks like it's due to the lip color change, I assume she's wearing light pink lipstick?

I obsess over this change which has been applied uniformly to ALL races in this thread.

The corners of the mouth aren't as long.

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Originally Posted by Plasmaspy

The corners of the mouth aren't as long.

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It's honestly hard to tell from the pics. They updated the lip makeup to extend all the way to the corners of the mouth for every single race+face, so you can't really eyeball it and say that one mouth is actually wider than the other.

I'd check in gimp but I think it's only a few pixels difference, the lip makeup application is by far the greater contributor to the change in appearance than any change to the actual mouth shape, at least from what I'm seeing.

I completely notice what you're talking about. I may not play face 2, but I support you in getting this feature added back in. It's very cute and charming.

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Originally Posted by Caesius

It's honestly hard to tell from the pics. They updated the lip makeup to extend all the way to the corners of the mouth for every single race+face, so you can't really eyeball it and say that one mouth is actually wider than the other.

I'd check in gimp but I think it's only a few pixels difference, the lip makeup application is by far the greater contributor to the change in appearance than any change to the actual mouth shape, at least from what I'm seeing.

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It's easier to see if you open the first and second picture in different tabs and flick back and forth. The creases at the corner of the mouth are way shorter in 7.0 than 6.xx.

Okay yeah, I see it. It's like they adjusted the mouth to fit the new lip makeup rather than the other way around.

Man, Mikoto is gonna look so different...

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Originally Posted by Plasmaspy

The corners of the mouth aren't as long.

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I'm struggling with the same on Face 1 au'ra, changed the lip color and it helped significantly

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Originally Posted by Isralia

I'm struggling with the same on Face 1 au'ra, changed the lip color and it helped significantly

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I tried that but it didn't really change anything in my case

My character was impacted as well, the mouth looks noticeably thinner than before. I really hope they make more adjustments to make it look how it did before.

Mouth creases have almost dissapeared, also lips have changed in thickness and lipstick is now very articial looking ...

Also you may notice that pupils are now bigger, that some might like that change, but I think it should be an option or toggle...

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Originally Posted by KhujaRela

Mouth creases have almost dissapeared, also lips have changed in thickness and lipstick is now very articial looking ...

Also you may notice that pupils are now bigger, that some might like that change, but I think it should be an option or toggle...

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I noticed the eyes too, I thought it had swapped to the bigger size somehow lol

Yeah... I'm only a couple quests into dawntrail and... It really really sucks but I don't know if I can continue for now.
My character looks like a wholly different person and has had the same unchanging expression on her face in each cutscene so far. With a blank emotionless smile and a face like the robots from irobot.
Sincerely, please change the mouth shapes back to the previous.
All we really needed was a texture update not an entirely new/different set of replacing facial features.

Not much of fishface anymore , square killing off that face appeal

Added animated gif comparisons to really demonstrate the change to the mouth shape.

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Originally Posted by Fourbestintoner

Not much of fishface anymore , square killing off that face appeal

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Arguably more fish-like now with the soulless eyes.

mouth 2 user here and honestly the changes are so disappointing! my character doesn't feel like herself at all either, the new lip shape completely changes the whole vibe of the face
the edit you posted actually makes me a little sad, it looks so much better :')

I honestly thought is was only a lighting and texture update but tbh this makes me not want to do the MSQ because my original character will not be in them. I don't know what to say honestly.

https://i.imgur.com/ynABOmt.png

It's very obvious that the entire mouth area and the lips have been reshaped and I cannot fathom why they did this. Nothing is going to fix it, nothing is going to make it better except them actually changing the shape back to what it was.

As it is, going through msq right now, every time there's a closeup of my character I feel like I'm dying a little inside because that is not her! Those are not her expressions! The difference is shocking and painful for someone who has put a lot of effort into developing this character for several years now. And even though I love my character with all my heart, I cannot imagine continuing in this game long term with her as she is right now.

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Originally Posted by Avina

I honestly thought is was only a lighting and texture update but tbh this makes me not want to do the MSQ because my original character will not be in them. I don't know what to say honestly.

https://i.imgur.com/ynABOmt.png

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Same, as it stands right now, I cannot do the msq or play in general when I just do not see my character anymore.

Yeah, this has made me rather sad. I'm not always one to grow attached to every character, but I did with this one. And the previous mouth was perfect.
I can come to terms with the rest of the face, but the lips are so drastically different it feels like it's not the same character. And seeing it every time I do the story just makes it feel even more like it is someone else, as weird as that may sound to others.

That said, I think that is a great idea to just add an option to the character creation process. That way the old and the new get what they want. I don't have high hopes for them actually doing this, but it would be wonderful. I have seen some of the talk in the Japanese forums about it all.

Updated: I admit that I jumped the gun too quickly. I actually prefer the newer models now.

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Originally Posted by Caesius

Okay yeah, I see it. It's like they adjusted the mouth to fit the new lip makeup rather than the other way around.

Man, Mikoto is gonna look so different...

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Oh my god I didn't even think of this. My favorite NPC probably got an unwanted lip job

Bump for visibility and since it's relevant to latest news post

And no changes except the red horn glow which i kinda liked and slightly less pronounced philtrum...
https://imgur.com/w1V8ZzR.png https://imgur.com/I4EOIYw.png

I'm just here to mention Au Ra has no apostrophe.
But I wish you all well in your faces. Know you're not the only race with such struggles!

https://imgur.com/kfxYVlS.gif

I'm never gonna get my derpy fishy face back.

Still huffing hopium for a future update fix