Is housing ever going to get fixed?

Its been a decade of the same problem. the supply and demand is just so damn bad.
Ive literally been bidding once a week for 2 years and still have not won. im not asking for a specific plot. im asking for any. ive been bidding on the lowest amount of bids house. I make a spreadsheet each week to keep track. An example of last weeks supply and demand on medium houses. there were 2 medium houses up for bid. there were over 900 bids between those two. having a supply and demand of 1 to 450 is just so dumb.
The argument about the community or neighborhood feel is moot. I have not once seen a single person in a ward in a literal year.
Square really needs to introduce instance housing. or Letting people upgrade their plot sizes. for example if you have a small house. If you pay the gil for a medium and then a large if they so choose then they can. Its really demoralizing losing week after week after 100 weeks

This is 10 years the problem exist, this is 10 years square ignore it. in 10 or 15 years you will still be in same housing nightmare.
Especially now that they created the useless Island sanctuary....

doubt it I do have an idea how to fix it, but it would be shut down so quick so I wont post my solution to housing on the forums lol


but in short my idea fix is remove fc plots and make the things that can be used as boost to grand fc boost not tradeable many fcs have 4-5 fc houses just to reproducer those things


instend grant fcs an insta island/cave/airship they ccan build and give members of the fcs housing plots within the island, run events airships and hunt things on the island togeather as a fc : fixs housing and allows a fc to have a community island and ability to run events togeather (big plus on social and community) and a fc having a island being insta means every fc will have access to it. then allow them to have 200-500 housing plots *w/e is the max member slot) that members can own and build on.



Ive noticed that any time there is a problem with se they rather put a band-aid on the problem instend of doing methods that will just remove the problem forever lol

If they want to keep the ward system in place, then mediums and larges should have some sort of upkeep system beyond the normal demo timer. There are so many people who buy larger plots and then don't bother to decorate them and completely ignore them or just turn them into furniture storage dumps. If you had to pay gil to keep the house then I suspect many of these people wouldn't bother sticking around, and a ton of supply would be freed up for people who actually care about housing.
Also, apartments should be upgrade-able into small, medium, and large variants for gil. I have no idea why this isn't already a feature.

Housing its fixed in the eyes of SE.

The more you want a house, then there is a reason to keep you subbed forever. Certainly, I don't get why you want a house (unless some sick ERP) when apartments exist.

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Originally Posted by KvotheCadera

Its been a decade of the same problem. the supply and demand is just so damn bad.
Ive literally been bidding once a week for 2 years and still have not won. im not asking for a specific plot. im asking for any. ive been bidding on the lowest amount of bids house. I make a spreadsheet each week to keep track. An example of last weeks supply and demand on medium houses. there were 2 medium houses up for bid. there were over 900 bids between those two. having a supply and demand of 1 to 450 is just so dumb.
The argument about the community or neighborhood feel is moot. I have not once seen a single person in a ward in a literal year.
Square really needs to introduce instance housing. or Letting people upgrade their plot sizes. for example if you have a small house. If you pay the gil for a medium and then a large if they so choose then they can. Its really demoralizing losing week after week after 100 weeks

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It's pretty easy to get a house these days, there are a ton of houses with zero bids on your server right now. Getting a medium or large is a different story but it seems the design intent there is to have some amount of prestige in owning one, so they're going to be harder to come by since there are less of them. Whether you agree with that philosophy or not is up to you, but the chances of SE uprooting the entire system to replace it with instanced housing is pretty much zero.

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Originally Posted by Router

If they want to keep the ward system in place, then mediums and larges should have some sort of upkeep system beyond the normal demo timer. There are so many people who buy larger plots and then don't bother to decorate them and completely ignore them or just turn them into furniture storage dumps. If you had to pay gil to keep the house then I suspect many of these people wouldn't bother sticking around, and a ton of supply would be freed up for people who actually care about housing.

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This will never happen but I agree with the sentiment. I like to explore the different housing wards to see the designs people have come up with and more often than not the large plots are completely empty or close to it. It's such a waste.

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Originally Posted by Router

If they want to keep the ward system in place, then mediums and larges should have some sort of upkeep system beyond the normal demo timer. There are so many people who buy larger plots and then don't bother to decorate them and completely ignore them or just turn them into furniture storage dumps. If you had to pay gil to keep the house then I suspect many of these people wouldn't bother sticking around, and a ton of supply would be freed up for people who actually care about housing.
Also, apartments should be upgrade-able into small, medium, and large variants for gil. I have no idea why this isn't already a feature.

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I've always wanted upgrade-able apartments/houses, it would be amazing if they implemented a system like in Animal Crossing where you pay a bunch of gil to upgrade the interior size until it eventually gets to the size of a large. I'd also love if they throw in a small outdoor balcony for apartments where you can place like 10 outdoor furnishing items, maybe by default the outdoor scenery matches your housing zone location and you can glamour it to look like other zones (Lavender Beds get a view of a lake surrounded by the forest, Mist gets an ocean view). This would be a good way to still make use of outdoor furnishings that you might've purchased on the Mog Station store, so they aren't completely useless if you decide to unsub and come back without a house.

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Originally Posted by AnnRam

Housing its fixed in the eyes of SE.

The more you want a house, then there is a reason to keep you subbed forever. Certainly, I don't get why you want a house (unless some sick ERP) when apartments exist.

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Lol what? Im pretty sure people use housing for ERP purposes is a minority. Once youre out of story content a lot of people look to other things to be their end game. including glamour, mount collecting, minion collecting, furniture collecting and house decorating.
And apartments are tiny with a low item limit. thats why people want houses lol yikes

I feel like they really should just make instanced small/medium/large housing a thing at this point.

You can still have a full exterior/interior to decorate, just minus the immersion of being part of an actual neighborhood.

There are permanently empty plots in Zodiark, here supply already surpassed demand. I guess some servers are just too populated.

They'll never fix the housing system, because its current iteration keeps people like this...

https://i.imgur.com/0KIcig3.png

...paying multiple subs, dumping money into the online store, etc.

An instanced house that I know won't evaporate if I need a break from the game would probably make FFXIV my forever MMO, but alas...

By the way, apartments don't count. I've had outdoor furnishings sitting unused in my saddlebag for multiple expansions now that I'd love to use, but instead all I can afford is a 20 ft square pod with ugly pillars along the walls.

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Originally Posted by AnnRam

Housing its fixed in the eyes of SE.

The more you want a house, then there is a reason to keep you subbed forever. Certainly, I don't get why you want a house (unless some sick ERP) when apartments exist.

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I have a house and it has nothing to do with ERP. I like Having the ability to decorate, having the ability to decorate a yard, to grow things in garden. Yes I'm aware you can decorate apartments too, but I like the bigger space and such that a house grants.

I was lucky enough to get one, but have since made a new character, can’t share the house…. This is backward and not helping the problem. How hard would it be to make houses shared.

Gonna rattle off my usual:

- We just opened up 4 new servers worth of housing, I got my dream medium with 0 other bids on it and there are still mansions sitting in some servers.
- If a house means that much to you that you're doing this for 2 years straight and not succeeding, maybe it's time to consider moving for the house. You're ultimately choosing to put yourself through 900 bid plots instead of working around the system to get what you want. In the time that you've been non-stop bidding, I've gotten several houses and moved servers for free. Which seems like a better time in the long run?
- Being afraid of losing friends just because you're not on the same server anymore is a bad excuse because your friendships should exist regardless of where you are + cross-DC is a thing. If that's an issue to them, get some new friends who actually care about you.
- Square has no incentive to provide instanced housing outside of meeting a community made demand. How will instanced housing generate money to the same degree as chaining people to their subscriptions if housing is no longer tied to it?

These threads just come off like a self-made problem to me because there are alternatives to just tossing your name in with hundreds of other people. There are just too many people who'd rather bet on a 900 bid medium chance (I like how mediums were specifically mentioned because it always ultimately comes down to people not wanting small houses) than move and actually get a medium with no issues. I will never understand why.

Speaking of small houses, according to Paissa Exodus has had multiple smalls sitting there with 0 bids, one particular Goblet small has been there with 0 bids for 2 weeks. Why not go get that small and have an easy time, if you are actually going for the lowest bid plot?

P.S. Utilize Island Sanctuary for your outdoor furniture in the meantime.

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Originally Posted by Vhel

I was lucky enough to get one, but have since made a new character, can’t share the house…. This is backward and not helping the problem. How hard would it be to make houses shared.

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We used to be able to add alts via a glitch but they patched it. They don't want it to be a thing.

I honestly think in many cases some just want a house for the sake of having it.

Whilst can only really comment in terms of my own experience of the ward my (small) house is on, I do often explore the Ward hoping to get ideas for additions to my house. And my experience is that there are a LOT of houses, of all sizes, which have had little or nothing done to them.

For example, there are two Large houses near my small, one of which is right next door. And whilst both have had some attention paid to the exteriors, the interiors are basically, other than a random table or chair here and there, empty. I never see the owners, but they must still visit as the house would obviously be demolished otherwise.

As I said, there must be a 'want for the sake of be able to say I have it' mindset in play, which is a pity when you consider the number of players who want a house to actually indulge their creativity.

They do try adding new wards but they get taken up instantly. It's also a bit disproportionate because people want them on specific worlds or areas, while there may be less popular areas or less populated worlds with plots available.

Hopefully they can think about trying to add houses to Island Sanctuary and make it possible to teleport there, so that they can be instanced.

My servers has empty plots constantly. If yours is super contested every region got new servers in EW. Why did you not move server to get a home? No shortage on new servers.

No. Housing has been a problem since day 1 and Yoshi P has been vocal (10 years and no fix), about not fixing it.
Hell, we still have to do glitches to do basic stuff with furniture. Like, I've seen... Otherways... To do it, but SE refused to make it legit.

like in real life you may have to move to find a home,

imo houses shouldnt be fc specific, and they should also be bolted to a players ff14 account, you should get 1 house if possible and be happy, i've had one for years, its pretty much my login/logout/striking dummy oasis.

It is fixed according to the masses lmao. The placard clicking at least had better turnaround time. All good I’ll enjoy my Mist 5 on a populated server

What's wrong with housing?

Since housing was first released people have been asking for the system to be changed to instanced housing. So, I wouldn't count on housing ever getting "fixed" this far down the road.

You are better off not owning a House.
I owned 2 Mid-Houses. Fully Furnished. I have spent Millions of Gil.
After my House was finished I got bored very quickly.
The worst part came after a few Month. I was constantly thinking about losing my House. You know, things happen.
Not because of the Gils I have spent. All I could think about was that I own a House. Others don't and may never own one. I'm so lucky!!!
Then the reality was starting to sink in. I was a Slave to the Game.
I could not take longer breaks. I was scared of getting sick (Hospitalization). No more Longer Vacations (yes, I can do that) and so on.
So, I have freed myself from that burden. Believe it or not. I felt soooo relieved.
I would never ever buy a House again as long as you have to stay subbed to keep it.

If they're not going to add instanced housing (which they should), then I think they should add more plots based off server population. Worlds with lower populations still have empty plots everywhere, so they don't need more right now. Meanwhile, congested worlds have more people wanting houses than there are plots that even exist, depending on the World. It's not entirely realistic to want people to transfer to lesser populated servers just for a chance at housing when many people have established Free Companies and friend groups on these servers. You'd have to either go alone or somehow convince the people you play with to go with you.

I also think it would actually go a long way towards helping the housing issue if Company Workshops were removed from Free Companies. People buying up houses solely to use them as submarine farms is definitely an issue, but if the workshops (which you need to have certain permissions to use in your FC in the first place) were instead part of your Grand Company—unlockable at a certain rank, perhaps, as incentive to rank up (since they haven't done anything with that since STB)—it would not only make workshop crafts and airships/submarines more accessible to all players, therefore potentially freeing up a lot of plots occupied solely for this reason, it would likely also help with some of the gil inflation issues.

No, they won't.

The reason why is simply because housing is not fixable. It needs reworking if it is to be even remotely good.

I get it, some people like the neighborhood design of housing wards. But that's pointless because people are very rarely at their house in the first place. In the vast majority of cases the housing wards are utterly devoid of any players.

I just wish dawntrail had a housing district

it will be addressed and answered yes but you have to be louder than this forum this is only one place (and sadly its not well looked after cause there is too much fighting)
if you would like to champion the cause though know you are not alone there are many who want to resolve this issue so i suggest spamming this to your friends, fav content creators whenever they talk about gameplay(dont harass ) use all media platforms with which SE has a presence in(twitch,youtube,twitter, meta(facebook) etc)
and then you can be sure it will reach the ears of someone who needs to hear it

Nope, it won't.