Is it finally my time to end my journey?

Apologies if there's bad grammar in here, I'm writing this pretty early in the morning.

For the the past 4 years, I used to say that ffxiv was my favorite game. I just to be super passionate about it, and seeing the EW trailer got me so hyped. Though I started to take breaks, and I started to drift apart from my FC. I decided that more breaks would help, but they never really did. Roulettes never felt satisfying to finish in a day, grinding relics just seemed impossible with how much luck I had to get with finding other people. Doing hunt trains never really appealed to me either, as I don't know what sorts of rewards they'd give me.

I used to play xiv because I liked the story, and the sense of adventure (also the mounts lol). Now I just feel like I have nothing to do. I haven't bothered to do the most recent patch's story, and I just can't find myself to care anymore. The last time I was truly excited for something was one of the latest patches for the hildebrand quests, since they're my favorite quests in the game. Even though I haven't been having fun, I still remember xiv as one of my favorite games I've played. Shadowbringers was one of my favorite stories in a videogame, period. Having that experience was worth all the sub-money and fantasias I've spent alone. I just wish I could have fun with xiv again, but I just feel like there's nothing to do, and I don't know if another 3 months of a break is gonna fix that.

My two IRL buddies are super hyped for dawntrail, and honestly? I couldn't care less. Warrior actions seems fine. Nothing of note, just fine. That's how I've felt about xiv a lot recently, I'm just extremely apathetic. I know its the game that I still consider to have some of my fondest moments in gaming, but it doesn't feel like that anymore. It feels like I'm back playing destiny 2 after beyond light, where I was just going through the motions of playing the game, not really enjoying it.

I'm not sure if I can truly enjoy xiv again. I would love to, truly I would. But even though I've met loads of great people through this game, I still feel as though I'm always playing solo, or just extremely distant. Never really a big part of the community, just a person orbiting. Whereas I can hop into a game of deep rock galactic and have some of the most hilarious and deranged conversations I've ever had, all while having a great time playing the game.

If anyone has a solution or just some advice, I'd love to hear it. I know I should just listen to what I truly feel about xiv, but I'm just not sure if I should stick around if dawntrail somehow wows me back into xiv.

Have you done ultimates? They're not hard to PF. Just start with UWU and prog naturally. Worst case scenario you have to join fresh garuda prog groups for a long time. Best case scenario you prog well and can move up to the next levels at a good pace. Once you learn what it's like to prog uwu, you can do the same for ucob or tea.

You don't have to know anyone or make commitments. Just hop into a group at your current level and do your best. Some groups fall apart after a few pulls, some reach the 120 minute time limit and keep going after zoning back in.

You can do it. You don't have to worry about succeeding or knowing what to do for the whole fight, because it's going to be a long road for anyone and we all start at the first prog level. You will develop the necessary skills and knowledge required as long as you continue to grind away at it.

Then there is the rest of the game to engage with still while you continue to work toward your totem. For me it's been a very rewarding journey and I've become a way better player as I progress through the stages of the encounter. I am excited to see what it will feel like to clear, I am excited about what I am learning, and I am looking forward to doing the other ultimates.

Taking a break from a video game, especially an MMO, is always an acceptable option even if that break is years instead of 3 months. There's so much you can play instead of XIV, like DRG, and they'll all offer a variety of different experiences. You're burned out and you know it judging by the tags. The XIV experience has gotten old for you so I suggest just quitting. Come back when there's a lot of story content for you to do past Dawntrail or you feel more socially interested in joining FC's and getting into voice chats with people or something of the like where they might offer something different for you to do. FC's are generally the key to a more rewarding social experience but it requires effort. It doesn't drop in your lap like it does in DRG sometimes.

Like marriage some people fall out of love and it's totally understandable to have that with a video game you've spent so long with. The idea of quitting XIV to me is kind of scary because of sunken cost fallacy but I also still just genuinely enjoy playing the game. That being said every time a friend quits I absolutely get why. I will note that voice chat in games makes for a completely different social atmosphere which XIV just doesn't have *normally* and you'll get a much more extroverted kind of person when in a random lobby with voice chat turned on. That's always nice.

I’ve learned that it doesn’t have to be a black or white answer. You don’t have to quit permanently nor stay permanently. Breaks can be years and that’s fine.

In the past 10 years, I’ve taken a 3-year break, a 1-year break, a 6-month break, a 3-month break, a 1-month break, and it’s fine. Every single time I come back, it’s because I feel re-energized to come back. And that re-energization can take from 1 month up to 3 years. And that’s fine.

You can take a break now and just come back when you want. It doesn’t have to mean you quit.

I took a one year break after Heavensward because I wasn’t excited about Stormblood at all, I didn’t want to leave Ishgard and didn’t think the game could get any better for me. After a year I returned with a freshly fanta’d character and played SB and loved it. It was already well into its patch cycle by then, I think up to 4.3 maybe. I’ve taken smaller breaks in between, the most might’ve been 6 months, and I always feel refreshed and excited to discover new things. Sounds like that’s what you need to do. Burn out is perfectly normal, so don’t worry!

I wouldn't sweat it, if you just are gradually losing interest in the game that's perfectly normal.

I myself have gone through a lot of on and off periods during this expansion because honestly anything post completing the 6.0 story has felt completely lackluster and disappointing as a whole (It's worth noting I don't run ultimates and only occasionally step in pf for savage despite being the skill level for it). Especially without a true relic grind and field zone (think akin to Eureka/Bozja) and the Endwalker content I do run getting very monotonous and mundane.

Thankfully, content wise, Dawntrail is bringing a field zone and is likely to have a relic without it being a glorified tome weapon as the only path of acquiring it. Apparently the encounter design should be improving (at the latest 7.1 or 7.2). And while job design isn't necessarily improving, and isn't likely to until 8.0, I'm holding out with the thin strand that's left with that.

If you haven't tried field zone content now would be an excellent time to. Even if you've already done Bozja (which is likely since you started in Shadowbringers), there's still Eureka. It's not everyone's cup of tea, but in my opinion it's still the best content the game has ever released. Eureka alone snags me and I wind up doing it and sometimes even running the tracker for several hours.

You sound like you're burned out. Quit for a bit. Spend your time on something else that you find enjoyable. Then see if your interest comes back. If you aren't feeling it anymore, you'll just burn yourself out more forcing it. But allowing yourself time to get past the burn out may mean you can come back with a fresh perspective and find your bliss in the game again at some later point.

I've played MMOs since 1999. I've left many, sometimes after breaks where I found I couldn't regain the interest, or sometimes miring myself in misery from being burned out but too stubborn to leave. Hopefully you can find what makes you happy again, in this game or outside it. Wish you the best.

A break is always a healthy option. :) There is no shame in going to play something else for awhile; this game will always be here.

There are many different ways to approach the game, and many different things that are making people stay.
It's possible you haven't found your niche yet.

I used to play FFXIV pretty casually, only doing MSQ, side quests, normal and alliance raids.
I only started properly raiding after 3 years (didn't even know what an opener was before that), did E1S to E8S, and stopped there because it was taking a lot of my time. But I still do BLU savage raids, and recently finished all current Criterion savage raids.

I think the big shift for me was when I started looking at available mounts, minions, glamour, and titles, and started making a sort of wishlist of what I wanted to get. It started as a general "this is what I want for my character" list, but then I expanded it to have one for each job (since you can macro titles, minions, and hotbars).
As a result, to get the minion/title/mount I wanted, I had to go through tons of content that normally I would not have been tempted by.

I didn't really care about fishing, but I wanted the Sea Dragoon title for my DRG -> I leveled FSH (through pure leveling grind, no levequests) -> I tried Ocean Fishing -> I learned how Ocean Fishing works -> I joined a party to try to get the Sea Dragoon title -> I pretty much learned how to actually fish at the same time -> I got the Sea Dragoon title -> "that was fun, actually, now I want to get the rest too" -> I got all the other Ocean Fishing titles -> I started big fishing (Dragons Deep) -> I got Saint of the Firmament on FSH (I wanted the title for my AST lol) -> I started seriously big fishing -> I have all the fishing achievements and my fishing log is complete.

... All because I wanted a title for my DRG. Otherwise I don't know if I would have ever done all that, fishing does look kinda boring from the outside.

Anyway, now I'm what they call an achievement hunter lol. That's my niche, I'm a completionist at heart, I love collecting things, I love working through a big todolist, and I love customization.
Because of that, I got to try pretty much everything the game has to offer (I'm still behind on PvP and Mahjong, and I haven't tried Ultimates yet).
With every niche there's a community, so a chance to meet with people and help each other, socialize, make friends maybe (statics also help a lot with that, but statics don't have to be restricted to raiding only).

Even beyond the boundaries of the achievements menu, there's housing, gposing, roleplaying, whatever activity people are promoting in /shout, and a community attached to all of these things.

You said you liked mounts, so maybe you could also start from there? Open FFXIVCollect, see what you like, look into what you need to do to get it, learn something new, etc.

Try something else, watch your friend play dawntrail and/or talk about their impression after a few weeks, if it make you want to play the game again go for it, if not there are so many interesting games to play this year even an unemployed bum won't find the time to play them all :D

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I decided that more breaks would help, but they never really did.

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Although breaks help in some cases, it was pretty common throughout Endwalker that breaks weren't helping people. A big part of the reasons brought up were lack of social content, such as Bozja and the Firmament in Shadowbringers, which made the game feel alive and like you were playing it with others. Instead, Endwalker had us soloing Island Sanctuary, Variant Dungeons, taking 5 seconds to complete our relics, no field operation, and we could double down on soloing by using duty support for dungeons etc.

Those issues are being addressed with the "Island Sanctuary"-like content (Cosmic Exploration) being social again, and a Field Operation like bozja being added.

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Roulettes never felt satisfying to finish in a day

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They feel satisfying to me personally, but expert roulette specifically gets boring due to the lack of variety and being the same dungeons for almost a year in some cases. I've also ended up just switching jobs to make them more fun lately.

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grinding relics just seemed impossible with how much luck I had to get with finding other people.

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Think you'll need to clarify which steps you are stuck on here. You can recruit in Party Finder also because others are usually doing relics too.

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Doing hunt trains never really appealed to me either, as I don't know what sorts of rewards they'd give me.

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Level 90 ones give you your weekly Comedy tomestones. All levels give you Causality and Poetics. Level 90 ones give you a currency you can exchange for the currently best materia. From older hunts you can exchange for minions, a Wyvern mount and Aetheryte tickets (for free teleports), among other things. From level 80 and 90 hunts, you get Sacks of Nuts, which can buy mounts, minions, orchestrions, wings, items to augment your tomestone gear to max ilvl, and materia.

There are also achievement mounts from killing thousands of A ranks (from hunt trains) and S ranks (not related to hunt trains), including a tiger mount, a triceratops mount and a victor mount (which is the little garlean dog you fight sometimes).

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Now I just feel like I have nothing to do.

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Lack of things to do has been an issue for people in Endwalker if they don't raid (for people who raid, there's been more raid content than in any expansion). You could try out the extreme, savage or criterion content, although there's not much time with the expansion coming out.

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I haven't bothered to do the most recent patch's story, and I just can't find myself to care anymore.

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Patch story is not usually all that good. You may as well do the new expansion's story at the end of this month, even if you quit after it's done. From what I've seen from the media tour, it's going to be a great story.

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Warrior actions seems fine. Nothing of note, just fine. That's how I've felt about xiv a lot recently, I'm just extremely apathetic.

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That's how Warrior has made me feel as well. It's a really easy job and when you're doing hard content, that's useful, but when you're doing roulettes it gets boring. Try Gunbreaker or some other job, branch out. It helped me a lot lately.

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I still feel as though I'm always playing solo, or just extremely distant. Never really a big part of the community, just a person orbiting.

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That's definitely something you can solve by doing content that involves other players: hunt trains, farming fates for the FATE mount, you see hundreds of the same players also farming these things.

You can also try out the older Field Operations like Eureka and Bozja, or get to their large-scale raids BA and DRS which are still organized regularly through discord servers. They just call mechanics in discord but you're doing the content with 24-48 other people.

Alliance Raids, easy as they are, do have 23 other people there with you.

There's also nothing to really be afraid of with trying out Extreme trials. They are high-end content, but it's not like you won't clear it after trying to prog it for a day or so in Party Finder. It's the lowest tier of difficult content, and you interact with others doing it.

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Originally Posted by Crustyman

Apologies if there's bad grammar in here, I'm writing this pretty early in the morning.

For the the past 4 years, I used to say that ffxiv was my favorite game. I just to be super passionate about it, and seeing the EW trailer got me so hyped. Though I started to take breaks, and I started to drift apart from my FC. I decided that more breaks would help, but they never really did. Roulettes never felt satisfying to finish in a day, grinding relics just seemed impossible with how much luck I had to get with finding other people. Doing hunt trains never really appealed to me either, as I don't know what sorts of rewards they'd give me.

I used to play xiv because I liked the story, and the sense of adventure (also the mounts lol). Now I just feel like I have nothing to do. I haven't bothered to do the most recent patch's story, and I just can't find myself to care anymore. The last time I was truly excited for something was one of the latest patches for the hildebrand quests, since they're my favorite quests in the game. Even though I haven't been having fun, I still remember xiv as one of my favorite games I've played. Shadowbringers was one of my favorite stories in a videogame, period. Having that experience was worth all the sub-money and fantasias I've spent alone. I just wish I could have fun with xiv again, but I just feel like there's nothing to do, and I don't know if another 3 months of a break is gonna fix that.

My two IRL buddies are super hyped for dawntrail, and honestly? I couldn't care less. Warrior actions seems fine. Nothing of note, just fine. That's how I've felt about xiv a lot recently, I'm just extremely apathetic. I know its the game that I still consider to have some of my fondest moments in gaming, but it doesn't feel like that anymore. It feels like I'm back playing destiny 2 after beyond light, where I was just going through the motions of playing the game, not really enjoying it.

I'm not sure if I can truly enjoy xiv again. I would love to, truly I would. But even though I've met loads of great people through this game, I still feel as though I'm always playing solo, or just extremely distant. Never really a big part of the community, just a person orbiting. Whereas I can hop into a game of deep rock galactic and have some of the most hilarious and deranged conversations I've ever had, all while having a great time playing the game.

If anyone has a solution or just some advice, I'd love to hear it. I know I should just listen to what I truly feel about xiv, but I'm just not sure if I should stick around if dawntrail somehow wows me back into xiv.

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Just cancel your sub and try other games for awhile, it's not worth looking for fun in a game, if you're not being grabbed or enjoying it just quit it's better for you mental overall. If enough people also feel the same SE will get the message and either shut the doors on FF14. Or make them change, hopefully in a direction that brings back joy to the game.

"past 4 years"

*Join Date: Apr 2022*

wat?

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Originally Posted by Mostly_Raxus

"past 4 years"

*Join Date: Apr 2022*

wat?

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Surely that's the forum join date?

I mean, mine says Feb 2022 but I started playing December 2021.

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"past 4 years"

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That's forum join date. People can have joined the game prior to that but not made a forum account.

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Originally Posted by Mostly_Raxus

"past 4 years"

*Join Date: Apr 2022*

wat?

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Forum join date. I've been playing since 2014.

FFXIV is modeled like a single player game outside of a handful of exploratory zones and PvP. The rest of it is very one and done, disposable feeling imo, even if you're in a group. Mileage can vary if you're into high end content to earn gear that really only helps you with one type of content (Ultimates). There's not much to XIV outside stories and RP (that lasts very long term I mean).

It's really confusing right? When modern games are pushing out story and gameplay content, trouncing XIV's revenue. They seem quite interested in just dumbing down an already stale and non competitive (in the live service/ subscription based games) formula.

Most people quit quietly and not make an announcement on the forums like it's a airport departure. I'm mashing X to doubt

I just wanna make sure I can still get some fun out of xiv. If not then I'll just stop playing, but if I can then that'd be nice.

Maybe FFXIV simply isn't what you're currently after when it comes to enjoyment.
There's nothing wrong to put a once beloved game to the side and jump onto something else, something that feels fresh and enjoyable.
This however doesn't mean that the passion might not ever return.

Just don't force yourself into playing if it'll only end up feeling like a chore rather than enjoyment.
Don't let the good memories of the game turn into boring ones. That'll just make it so that the little passion that's left will die out sooner.

There's nothing wrong with putting a once beloved game to the side and jump onto something else that might feel fresh and exciting.
And who knows, maybe down the road you'll feel more excited to jump back into FFXIV and see what's happened while you were gone.

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Originally Posted by Crustyman

If anyone has a solution or just some advice, I'd love to hear it. I know I should just listen to what I truly feel about xiv, but I'm just not sure if I should stick around if dawntrail somehow wows me back into xiv.

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Your interest in FFXIV might have changed for any number of reasons. Playing the same game for several years can get boring to anyone. Some players thrive on learning new games and maybe you feel that you've learned everything about FFXIV that you want to. You mention that you've mostly been playing solo while you're having active conversations in the other game - maybe it's the lack of social interaction that is diminishing your enthusiasm but could return if you were playing with your real life friends.

I wouldn't stick around for a maybe. Trust your current feelings. You know you're having fun with Deep Rock Galactic right now so keep playing it. Keep in touch with your real life friends and get their impressions of Dawntrail once they've gotten through MSQ and dabbled in end game. If they have a good time, then their enthusiasm might re-ignite yours. If you decide to return, it wouldn't take all that long to get caught back up (and you will have missed the worst of the launch log-in queues!).

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Originally Posted by Crustyman

I just wanna make sure I can still get some fun out of xiv. If not then I'll just stop playing, but if I can then that'd be nice.

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What do you find fun about your other game? Have you thought about what you can do to get that feeling in XIV?

I took a break from like the end of stormblood to the middle of endwalker. Don't push yourself to play the game and take a break, play other games whether MMO or not there are hundreds of new games each year and thousands of older games to play. Maybe you'll find your next favourite game.
In terms of what keeps me playing, I suppose its blu, my fc and the odd achievement and challenge runs I do. So I would suggest seeing if theres any niche thing in the game you enjoy to do whether its something as common as Savage raiding to something as uncommon as Doma Mahjong theres a lot in the game and you might find the thing that makes you want to keep coming back. But if you can't find anything thats fine too, just be done with the game and find joy in the memories you had, games should never be a commitment you should only ever play a game if you're enjoying it.

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Originally Posted by Crustyman

WAHHH BRING BACK TP WAHHH ZODIARK TRANCE ITS OVER

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Unironically go play wow

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

What do you find fun about your other game? Have you thought about what you can do to get that feeling in XIV?

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Honestly, the combat itself is enough of a reason to keep playing. I just love playing, though I guess that's because FPS games are my favorite genre. Also there's a skin I wanted for one of the weapons in the game, and its pretty much luck based, but I don't mind it, it keeps me playing.

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Originally Posted by Battler-Ushiromiya

Unironically go play wow

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I've tried it, just a bit hesitant to add another subscription game to the stuff I play. Plus I have to buy all the expansions n stuff.

Though I'm not sure when I said that lmao. Apologies if I sounded like an ass with that post.

The game kinda lost its magic for me after 6.0, too.

It's unlikely DT is going to pull some miracle and actually bring that back for me, but I'm willing to give it a chance anyhow.

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Apologies if I sounded like an ass with that post.

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No I'm trying to troll you to get mad at me, that's what I do on these forums, I post bait when I'm bored.

Bye?

Either do more content or quit till you want to play again. People take breaks all the time. You dont need validation from the forums to do it like we are your parents. Put your big boy pants on and decide whats best for you.

If the story doesn't interest you then you could try the content you haven't done. Raiding, if you are motivated by power. Or any and all side content if you like collecting cosmetic rewards such as mounts and glamour. https://ffxivcollect.com/ can help you figure out what you are missing. There is also prestige in completing some side challenges, such as solo deep dungeon runs, eureka/bozja raids and criterion savage dungeons. You mentioned not doing hunts yet. They are a way to get tomestones without doing roulettes, and if you get into spawning S ranks, also a community of people doing content together (check Faloop discord for more info). With a steady stream of poetics, you can work towards old relic weapons from ARR and HW.

I wish you luck, Crustyman (lol at that name). FFXIV is good and no offense to anyone that only plays this game, but this game is basically a copy-paste of WoW in the Cataclysm era (2010 version of WoW). It's good, but the only thing that really seperates FFXIV from WoW, in my opinion, is the story. I usually only play this game for a couple months out of the year, coming back for the new expansion or a new patch. No shame in that, there are other games/things you can do. From your post, it sounds like you're just bored of FFXIV. Good luck in your future endeavors!

My journey ends too, got to see the end of hyedalyn zodiark arc.
They ruined my BLM. No need to remain subbed anymore.

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Honestly, the combat itself is enough of a reason to keep playing. I just love playing, though I guess that's because FPS games are my favorite genre. Also there's a skin I wanted for one of the weapons in the game, and its pretty much luck based, but I don't mind it, it keeps me playing.

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Hmm yeah as some others have said, you might try dipping your feet into content that you haven't been exposed to yet that may give you a similar feeling. If you like fps games because they're higher octane, you might like the raid side of the game. Or maybe try out PvP.

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Bye?

Either do more content or quit till you want to play again. People take breaks all the time. You dont need validation from the forums to do it like we are your parents. Put your big boy pants on and decide whats best for you.

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Yea, I've just been taking breaks, playing for a day or two, letting my sub expire, then rinse and repeat. I'm just not sure how many more 3 month breaks it'll take to make xiv fun again.

Though I suppose I did need to hear this lol. Definitely gonna take a really long break

most people who hit the same wall as you install mods and go erp 15 hours a day and forget about the game entirely, its a whole ass rabbit hole ... like most people dont even do content they just go to nudey bars and buy the publicly advertised hookers and square enix completely supports this.

Huh, this is an interesting time to decide to give up on FFIXV but go and live your best life IRL I guess.

I've played for over a decade but I kept a running sub since like ShB and I've just PO DT so I'll be here as long as servers are alive. I don't really do hard content so it's just V&C and MSQ along with glam hunting. I used to play every day but the last month I felt burned out so I just log in like 1 hour every other day.

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most people who hit the same wall as you install mods and go erp 15 hours a day and forget about the game entirely, its a whole ass rabbit hole ... like most people dont even do content they just go to nudey bars and buy the publicly advertised hookers and square enix completely supports this.

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My journey ends too, got to see the end of hyedalyn zodiark arc.
They ruined my BLM. No need to remain subbed anymore.

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me with summoner

Apathy means burnout 99% of the time, take a 3 month break cold turkey. You will either come back enjoying yourself or never return, ymmv.

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Originally Posted by Crustyman

If anyone has a solution or just some advice, I'd love to hear it. I know I should just listen to what I truly feel about xiv, but I'm just not sure if I should stick around if dawntrail somehow wows me back into xiv.

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I don't think anyone can give you THE advice which makes you stay or stray from the game. That is a decision you alone have to make. But I can see how the lack of social interaction can make playing FFXIV a boring experience over time.
I'm playing for 5 years myself and I got lured into the game by my sister. I really have to say, if it wasn't for her being around I wouldn't have stayed and payed for playing. We also got my best friend into playing with us and a lot of content we did only by the 3 of us.

Like someone already mentioned here, maybe you become hyped again when your 2 buddies start gushing over DT and you decide to go back. I don't think anyone here can give you an unbiased answer to the question whether DT makes it worth to stick around or not. That is something only you can decide once you played it.

Me and my FC mates are currently feeling "burnt out" too. We log in occasionally but our main focus shifted to GW2. R n we definitely prefer that one, despite being an "old" game for several reasons. No monthly sub, expansions with mounts that actually are useful and not only for glam purposes or flying, combat that's much more fast-paced than it is in FF XIV and lots of other stuff. You might not be able to switch jobs "on the fly" but you can have several different builds you can swap at any time, like wanting to play a power build of your job or a condi build or maybe a build that's fit for a WvW zerg. Also meta events with world bosses are a whole different level than in FF XIV. Once you participated in the Dragon's Stand or Tower of Nightmares you laugh at some FF XIV content which is considered "hard".
And then there are tons of achievements to unlock with titles to gain or gear or weapons or account boons or simply glam...

Anyways, it doesn't need to be that one; it can also be some other game (MMO) that doesn't instantly ask for a sub or just a good old offline game if you aren't looking for social interaction.
If you don't feel like playing FF XIV, then don't force yourself. No one expects you to do that and in return you don't need to justify your decision whether to play or not.