Benchmark 1.1 Feedback: Miqo'te Seeker of the Sun Face 3

Here is my feedback on the Miqo'te changes for Seeker of the Sun, Face 3, Eyebrows #4 with Eyebrow Facial Feature, and Mouth #4. The shape of the eyebrows and the lips for those listed options was nicer in Endwalker. Feel free to add any more feedback for Face 3 in this thread.

https://i.imgur.com/qKsLz0Y.png

https://i.imgur.com/jHCHu8w.pngOLD
https://i.imgur.com/ZhZcYQi.jpegNEW

Face 3,
Jaw 3,
Eyeshape 3, size small
Eyebrows 1
nose 1
mouth 1

Eyes are less sharp, harder to spot the pupils and the iris is slightly larger.

The eyelid is rounder in the new one

The eyebrows hangs lower now, has less curve, ends earlier and lacks the tiny spacing on the outer part.

i feel the changed mouth forces a smile for the neutral expression, it's a little too much. overall all miqo mouths, female or male, got the heavy smiling treatment

comparison endwalker vs benchmark
https://imgur.com/gallery/endwalker-benchmark-BZihhdB

benchmark neutral face
https://imgur.com/gallery/neutral-fa...chmark-nb9XAOh

When i looked at it from the sides the mouths seemed failry similar actually, but the new lighting makes the mouth bend much more visible

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Leon-Valeren

i feel the changed mouth forces a smile for the neutral expression,

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Jepp, it seems, that they are using some wrong normal maps for the mouth region. And this produces this smiling or this greedy expression.





Cheers

Hi! I also did a look at seeker face 3, thought I would mention that the bottom of the new eyebrow is also more "arched", along with the top having been shaved down a bit with the missing triangle bit. I'm pretty upset by the lip changes too, I miss the more rectangular shape on the bottom lip a lot.

It feels like a lot of the faces now have a slight "smile" as the "neutral" expression.... the shape of mouth 2 also feels less plum than before

Honestly, it looks okay, but I wish the hair had the lighting highlights so it looked less flat.

https://i.ibb.co/KqbBxTB/Clipboard-06-05-2024-01.png
Face 3,
Eye 3, Iris Large
Eyebrows 1
Nose 1
Jaw 1,
Mouth 4

Honestly I read "something off" here, but I can't place it cause nobody zooms in this close:
https://i.ibb.co/RhLys98/Clipboard-06-05-2024-02.png

Face 3, Eye 4, Nose 6, Mouth 1

Original Benchmark felt good to me, I'm beginning to think the legacy lighting was covering a lot of the things wrong, but they eyes really feel off here in 1.1 benchmark. Could be lighting and how shadows are cast over the eyes, eyelids and surrounding areas. Mouth is also strange - viewing in evening lighting was a little better, though I think that's just because they are covering up the exaggerated creases along the corners of the mouth.

Current Endwalker
https://i.imgur.com/LhdV6sh.png

Dawntrail 1.1 Benchmark
https://i.imgur.com/j1WL7tX.png

Dawntrail 1.1 Benchmark under exaggerated lighting
https://i.imgur.com/6PClxbJ.png

The more I look at things, the more I think it's less the mouth shape has changed but the lip color location has become smaller and changed in shape in comparison to the old one. You can see in the post above that the color for the lips is inward more and less out. This might also be causing the smile?

The eyes and mouth look really off to me. Felt like first benchmark was better and kinda feels like a downgrade from it, kinda wish i didn't see it now... Eyebrows are smaller and more dense for some reason.