Just expressing my general mindset of battle mechanics of ffxiv, which i tend to fall asleep on in some occasions. I do think since this a new game, and it needs a new system from its previous title, but even though you have to position yourself to self skillchain, with like 7 others self skillchaining their own little fun abilities that i think is a nice little effect, i think it is still not enough. I can put my little sister on this game and let her play very well with my nostromo mouse and left-handed pad effectively. I didnt want talk about gear swaps, and and blink tanking and all that jazz, but atleast it had my attention on the game, and had me very aware. The way i see it though is that the majority favor how it is now, but i dont see how the majority favor it, even though 2.0 may give us all a saving grace with battle mechanics to satisfy both crowds.
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07-19-2012, 03:50 AMAsokazzzzzzzzz
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07-19-2012, 03:51 AMAmyNeudaiz/10charactersQuote:
Originally Posted by Asoka
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07-19-2012, 03:57 AMHiirNoivl
2.0 indeed.
My main issue is that Hiir Noivl can only perform one action at a time. So I do one ability but I can't queue up another, and I'm sitting there just watching her swing her axe around, slam it on the ground... pause..... get... up....
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07-19-2012, 07:23 AMbobbygunz
It's pretty boring unless youre a tank on a boss. Everyone else is either waiting for TP (zzzzzzzzzz), running out of MP (zzzzzzz), waiting for threat to go down (zzzzzzzzzzzzz), waiting to cast after moving (zzzzzzzz), interrupting cast by accident (zzzzzzzzz), mob dies before AoE goes off so have to recast your AoE (zzzzzzzzz).
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07-19-2012, 07:28 AMSephrickWell, at least they kept something from XI. Right?Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbygunz
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07-19-2012, 07:35 AMKioteIsn't action Queuing something you can activate in the Configuration menu?..Quote:
Originally Posted by HiirNoivl
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07-19-2012, 07:37 AMKioteYou must play with the worst Players in the world...Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbygunz
I have never met a single person who had to wait for TP or MP or repeatedly accidentally interrupted their casts, especially on a Boss fight. -
07-19-2012, 07:42 AMKiote
FFXIV by far has the most active and unique battle system of any MMO on the market. They actually had to tone it down because it was so fast paced people couldn't talk and play at the same time. Are you looking for a game where you can just click every skill you have and watch them go off? Sounds pretty boring to me.. Or are you that person who like to just rapidly click your mouse as fast as possible without actually paying attention to what your doing?
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07-19-2012, 08:45 AMbobbygunz
Well obviously it's not a constantly recurring issue to accidentally cancel your spell, it's not like it was my main point anyways, lol.
FFXIV combat is only unique in the sense that there's animation lock, really. And also it's not at all demanding so you can have a whole conversation on the meaning of life in your linkshell while you wait around in between cooldowns, etc.
In instances, there's usually enough happening that it never seems boring, but when youre soloing, that's when it becomes especially obvious. I pity new players who will have 1 ability to use over and over. -
07-19-2012, 10:14 AMRau
What the hell did OP say?
Anyway, I'm pretty sure even mentioning gear swaps or any of the elements from XI that took a good amount of timing/patience will get blasted, just because. -
07-19-2012, 09:25 PMAsoka
Yea thats why i wont bring it up about gear swap stuff because another thread it was mentioned in, and that person got blasted about how it should be in this game. Anyway, i hope for 2.0 the battles can be more fun, and have more strategies for taking down foes. I just find it kinda crazy how unorganized partys are with 5 plus mobs just getting spam aoe ws, or magic.
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07-26-2012, 02:51 AMLaymanX
Be nice if XIV just used XIII-2's battle system. I mean it's built around controlling only one character anyway, and it's fast-paced and fun.
But that would require a massive rehauling of all the battle mechanics, and it'd be had to to think up multiple paradigms for each class. -
07-31-2012, 07:14 PMRuisuUnless You're going PLD, you're probably doing the same thing every other DD does, but in one position.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbygunz
Throwing weapons exist for this reason.Quote:
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Learn to manage your MP properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbygunz
Chameleon, Elusive Jump, and Freeze work wonders. Get a better tank.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbygunz
I don't...what?Quote:
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I'd hardly consider this a zzzzzzzzzzz moment, especially if you're a WHM.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbygunz
This is a problem, but not because it's boring. It's an annoyance.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbygunz
The combat in this game is a hell of a lot more enjoyable than XI's combat, despite that not saying a whole lot, it's a great system. And with stuff like Battle Regimens coming back, I expect it to have some actual depth as well.
This is just the worst idea.Quote:
Be nice if XIV just used XIII-2's battle system.
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08-01-2012, 06:57 AMLaymanXOh well thanks for explaining why.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruisu
Not that I care at all about whatever inane reasons you have for disliking FFXIII-2's combat, or if you do like the combat then your complete lack of imagination as to how they could make it work in an MMO, but the point is if you're going to just say 'lol no' you might as well just not say anything at all. -
08-01-2012, 07:05 AMburitosliceryou sir, hit all the points. +1Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruisu
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08-01-2012, 02:07 PMRuisuI actually somewhat enjoyed FFXIII-2. I just think turning away from what the game currently has is a terrible terrible move. The combat we have now is far better than what XIII/XIII-2 have. And far more involving.Quote:
Originally Posted by LaymanX