I made alternative forms for Scholars new "Seraphism" job action!

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first post here and which one do you guys like best?

I can't pick! XD

I might have a soft spot for "Altruism" though. The idea of summoning band of fairies to do your bidding seems fitting their strategist aspect rather than being infused with fairy yourself.

Altruism is an eyecatcher for sure! its a shame that the clear distinction between the two are getting muddied with the new expansion

I'm also partial to the Altruism one. I really hope they see all the feedback on Seraphism and implement the necessary changes before Dawntrail.

Ohh, I saw this on reddit earlier. I'd go with Modus Veritas, I'll take the cape anyday for Nymian military tactician thematic.

Great artwork and designs!

i saw your comment on another thread about it! thank you so so much <3 and i think that cape especially would look amazing on hrothgars

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Ohh, I saw this on reddit earlier. I'd go with Modus Veritas, I'll take the cape anyday for Nymian military tactician thematic.

Great artwork and designs!

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100% agree. Would mash this button on cd.

Books please

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first post here and which one do you guys like best?

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Dual perspective is my favourite there, it's exactly what I was trying to convey on the far right of my post

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Originally Posted by Aeridan

I really hope they see all the feedback on Seraphism and implement the necessary changes before Dawntrail.

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Absolutely not happening. Even if you could convince them to change it, you'd have to convince them on what exactly the "necessary" change is, then give them the time to actually make whatever that is, and then give them the time to actually make sure that it works as intended. Dawntrail is in a month and a half.

Definitely like Dual Perspective out of those, although I'm partially biased there because of my own suggestions for Scholar about a year ago where you'd stance change between White Grimoire and Black Grimoire, so Dual Perspective fits in really well with that idea.

Altruism is also good, but all of them are better than whatever Square was smoking.

Modus Veritas (hope I wrote that right) and Altruism are my favourite! I would personally love a combination of both.
You have the cape and hat on while the Fairies are holding the buble at the edges just like a certain scene in the Ivalice raid where the Aetherial apparitions are holding the protective bubble to keep the players safe.

Altruism is my favourite. I would have loved to have both fairies at once and being able to use both their kits at the same time if they hadn't deleted Selene out of the game.

I'd go with "Atruism".
"Dual perspective" would fit more in XI with the light/dark elements
"Modus veritas" is a bit to "one piece" for my taste.

Now throw in a fourth choice as "Tabula rasa" with multiples arcanic circles and that would be a tough one.

Imo all have their merit, except Seraphic Stratagem. The blue visor is imo too close to Blue Mage aesthetic.
Dual Perspective is a nice general idea but it feels to me like one could make more of it. Maybe the symbols and text in the books floating around the scholar or so? Additional to the floating books?

these are incredible! so cute

Modus Veritas is absolutely peak, and is what Seraphism should have been. I also think Altruism and having the three fairies out on the field makes way too much sense not to be an ability down the line, and I hope it's gets in the game in some form in 8.0. I also think Dual Perspective would be an interesting way to lean into future skills, while being a nice reference to FFXI's Scholar.

Modus Veritas has my vote. In terms of "wearing stuff", it's the one that fits the best with the SCH aesthetic. (Though I suspect that if something like it is ever implemented, Hrothgars and Vieras would never get to see that hat.)

Very neat ideas overall. Good job!

The middle two make the most sense to me. A tactical visor overlay is the most logical, but wouldn’t show up very visibly if that’s what they’re going for. Commanding a fleet of fairies seems to be the best blend of visible, tactical feeling, and still leaning into the fey side of things.

I also saw someone suggest just having the chain stratagem screens up for the duration of the buff, which I love. It would give similar vibes to your second option.

Modus Veritas and Altruism work well. Personally I lean more towards Modus Veritas since I'd like to see more of Scholar's tactical/militant flare show up in later skills and so many capstone skills already highlight the fairy. I do appreciate the gears added on Seraphic Strategem.

The first one seems to be very cool.

I really like #3 (Altruism).

Summoning a bunch of fairies/seraphs under your command is VERY SCH-like while still retaining the Seraph theme.

One of the main themes of SCH is creating a fairy to assist them in their duties. Seraph fits the theory of taking the incredible amount of Light-polarized aether on the First to empower Eos.

#3 is like those two things together exemplifying the SCH as a master of their fairy constructs (creating multiple mini-Seraphs) and their exemplary command skill (commanding them in tactical coordination via Emergency Tactics). With Adloquium and Succor both representing “inspiring words”, but also being insta-cast, really fits the image of the SCH mobilizing and commanding the party using the aid of their mini seraphs.

https://i.ibb.co/nbsW8FQ/Whatdidyoushipmeanbythis.jpg

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Would've been funnier if Eos/Selene returns and is confused of what happened. in the last frame

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Altruism = Modus > Seraphic > Dual

I love the idea of summoning all 3 faeries at once being a part of an ultimate healing cooldown despite there now being 2 faeries (can you even summon Selene anymore?) I also like the aesthetic of Modus because while SCH has faeries, the battle tactician is more of the physical design lore I have associated with SCH. Seraphic is nice, but the one concern I have is how similar it is to having Seraph out. I don’t really get Dual at all with regard to my perception of the job’s intended aesthetic.

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sadly, i don't have the skills to draw something remotely comparable to what is shown there. :(

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this is amazing! my favorite hrothgar from now on

I really love 1 and 4 the most, but they're all good.

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can you even summon Selene anymore?

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Only as a Glamour.

I made a macro that’s essentially the old Summon Selene and Summon Eos buttons. But I also made macros for Summon (Gem) Carbuncles too.

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Did you make this? That is so cute. <3

Dual Perspective, all the way. It's just the most scholarly and I think we have a good enough amount of fairy motifs.

I really like Modus Veritas, great job on all the art!! I really hope we end up getting a toggle option down the line...