Please stop doing this square enix

female dancer gear at level 100 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/...285&height=700
male dancer geat at level 100
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...91e692ac20bdc&
okay... this is the worst offense so far. ive already talked in-depth about how ridiculous the changes between male and female are but this is completely beyond the line. the gear looks unrated. and honestly.. ugly.. i was SO excited to get that level 100 dancer gear from the keynotes on until i seen this. stop punishing me for playing a male. please, enough is enough. this will not stop until more people complain.

Didn't you just make a thread where you asked for clothing like this for males? I'm so confused.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Didn't you just make a thread where you asked for clothing like this for males? I'm so confused.

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here you go

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

Glamour - woman get revealing skimpy glamour all the time... constantly.. mini shorts and thigh highs.. not men.. i think the edenmorn and level 90 whm relic gear capture this perfectly.. where the woman have an off the shoulder dress and men have like this.. bin bag full sleeve.

Or some shortshorts are just straight up turned into pants for men. Why? Why not make them the same for both sexes.
I'm actually really happy the midriff is still exposed on male picto but I think in the past many great opportunity's were missed. Still fuming that about the level 80 dancer gear being completely different on men...

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We're getting two dye channels so there is a good chance you can dye one to look like the other.

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Originally Posted by mallleable

We're getting two dye channels so there is a good chance you can dye one to look like the other.

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its completely different :/ dye wont fix this

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

its completely different :/ dye wont fix this

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Oh nvm, I thought you were referring to the color. I get it... but it won't work the other way around, giving fem characters the open vest in a T rated game. <_<

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Originally Posted by mallleable

Oh nvm, I thought you were referring to the color. I get it... but it won't work the other way around, giving fem characters the open vest in a T rated game. <_<

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tbh all i want is equality. same outfit for both genders.

Did you want a bra for non existent boobs or what's the problem? They are both skimpy.

Yeah would have liked to have male and female versions as different items.

Along with no genderlocking!

Sure, give us the open chested version for females!

95% of gear of designed for male characters and the rare time something feminine actually get made male characters complain they can't crossdress.

Other than not giving us shorts (expected) the fact they didn’t even TRY to make the tops match is annoying. Wrap a scarf around us too!

Is it the legs? I can see the argument. No reason the bottom can't be the same on both male and female. The top might look a little odd on a male form.

Let us have the option to get both then...
I don't want to be forced into feminine-looking attire
on my male character..

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Originally Posted by Zeastria

Let us have the option to get both then...
I don't want to be forced into feminine-looking attire
on my male character..

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Problem is there's no way you can put that top on a female form and stay within the current game rating. So there would need to be some adjustment there at the very least.

I agree completely with having both versions of an outfit show equal amounts of skin, anything else gives off a wrong message to me. But i feel like this do that, given his chest is exposed.
What im more annoyed about is the chakrams. Why arent there fans yet?????

I agree the female dancer needs to have an open vest as well

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

Problem is there's no way you can put that top on a female form and stay within the current game rating. So there would need to be some adjustment there at the very least.

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There's already multiple exposed chest outfits like the Uraeus Coat from ARR that just give the female variant a modesty top so it is a bit strange that they opted for a totally different look here, especially after EW DNC outfit was a lot more similar between genders comparatively.

personally, I prefer to have a different outfit between a male and a female. I dont see an issue with either

anything that doesnt resemble 2B bottoms and boots on a male hrothgar is a bonus in my opinion

Looks pretty equal to me. They're both flamboyant outfits.

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

personally, I prefer to have a different outfit between a male and a female. I dont see an issue with either

anything that doesnt resemble 2B bottoms and boots on a male hrothgar is a bonus in my opinion

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Men and women have different curves.

I support LGBT, but I don't buy the idea that everything has to be gender neutral or non exclusive outfits.

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Originally Posted by Aword3213

Men and women have different curves.

I support LGBT, but I don't buy the idea that everything has to be gender neutral or non exclusive outfits.

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the problem with it is perfectly encapsulated in the example. the female attire has more details and colours (im an artist myself and the male 1 looks rushed like a bad ali express cosplay) the last 2 dancer outfits TRIED to be similar. and it was ok enough. this though. is a complete 180 change. why cant they just make a toggle or something...

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

Problem is there's no way you can put that top on a female form and stay within the current game rating. So there would need to be some adjustment there at the very least.

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Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver

Sure, give us the open chested version for females!

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Originally Posted by Reinha

Did you want a bra for non existent boobs or what's the problem? They are both skimpy.

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Originally Posted by mallleable

but it won't work the other way around, giving fem characters the open vest in a T rated game. <_<

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i mean.. theres way to make the male 1 the same as the female.. just wrap the bust binder around them. the thavnairian dress already did it well enough. or better yet make them shirtless.. all these vests are just driving me insane

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

i mean.. theres way to make the male 1 the same as the female.. just wrap the bust binder around them. the thavnairian dress already did it well enough. or better yet make them shirtless.. all these vests are just driving me insane

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Because everyone wants their male character to wear a bust binder?

While I think the male version could be more similar, with a strap going over the shoulder instead of a 'bra', I actually like the vest, and a similar argument could've been made by players who'd prefer something like that on their female characters.

I feel what, overall, makes the male set appear worse is the color scheme, which is adjustable, especially with a 2nd dye channel coming in.

I really do not see a big difference between the two aside of the chest piece, gloves head and boots are exactly the same. So im Guessing your complain is pants do not have that little thigh gap? because aside of the chest and colour is the only difference

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Originally Posted by Reinha

Because everyone wants their male character to wear a bust binder?

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i gave TWO suggestions

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Originally Posted by Thel_Eruyt

I really do not see a big difference between the two aside of the chest piece, gloves head and boots are exactly the same. So im Guessing your complain is pants do not have that little thigh gap? because aside of the chest and colour is the only difference

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fabric looks different on the sashes, the vest looks completely different from the outfit the pants are thinner/less puffy the gear loses its entire look from male > female

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

i gave TWO suggestions



fabric looks different on the sashes, the vest looks completely different from the outfit the pants are thinner/less puffy the gear loses its entire look from male > female

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to be fair, we are comparing a picture with an screenshot so not sure, there. also as we compare between different races/height that rhinner puffiness could be relative . hard ot say without seeing it in all the races (although I dp not see that pants problem, it could be just me)

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Originally Posted by Aword3213

Men and women have different curves.

I support LGBT, but I don't buy the idea that everything has to be gender neutral or non exclusive outfits.

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Still, would have been nice to not have outfits look completely different between the sexes. Even if it's something "overly" feminine for men.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

While I think the male version could be more similar, with a strap going over the shoulder instead of a 'bra', I actually like the vest, and a similar argument could've been made by players who'd prefer something like that on their female characters.

I feel what, overall, makes the male set appear worse is the color scheme, which is adjustable, especially with a 2nd dye channel coming in.

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Any kind of sash/scarf wrapping on the torso would’ve looked nice. For me, while I like the male set, it’s like a worse version of the first relic set, but the female set isn’t similar to the first one at all. Being shirtless with just belly chains or something would’ve been better than a bland vest. I will say I love the head gear though, I’ve been wanting dyeable feathers like that ever since Y’shtola got them.

Agreed, I feel like the male DNC artifact gear is pretty terrible this time around...I'm not into the vest and long pants look.

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

the problem with it is perfectly encapsulated in the example. the female attire has more details and colours (im an artist myself and the male 1 looks rushed like a bad ali express cosplay) the last 2 dancer outfits TRIED to be similar. and it was ok enough.

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Though I don’t mind it, your points are solid. Hope they reconsider their design and put more effort in male counterpart.

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Originally Posted by Thel_Eruyt

I really do not see a big difference between the two aside of the chest piece, gloves head and boots are exactly the same. So im Guessing your complain is pants do not have that little thigh gap? because aside of the chest and colour is the only difference

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After looking at the male one for a bit there might be a gap on the male leg in the same area that the female version has. Just the fabric that hangs down from the top is covering those areas on the male outfit due to the pose the model is in. On top of them not being transparent.

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Originally Posted by Fourbestintoner

95% of gear of designed for male characters and the rare time something feminine actually get made male characters complain they can't crossdress.

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oh, and what gear is made for "men" then lol? the heavy plate armours? if thats all you think men should wear then all this did was prove my point