Upcoming PvP changes mostly in 7.1

From the summary thread:

PvP Updates

Viper and Pictomancer will be added to PvP in 7.0
New PvP actions, action adjustments, and adjustments to existing PvP maps are currently planned for 7.1
Crystalline Conflict ranked matches will;; be in preseason between 7.0 and 7.1 (rankings will not be updated, but tiers and Crystal Credit will be affected by wins and losses

Do you think the new actions are just the addition of the new Jobs or do we get slight expansion to existing kits?

Really hoping they will finally take a look at potential rewards along the larger changes.

They probably have to or it’s just gonna break the game. Though I’m sure everything gonna have to be adjusted

The funniest thing about it was that they actually took the time to be like: "And that does it for the PvE job updates. Now let's talk about the PvP stuff: ...We're working on it... Here's a slide full of foregone conclusions that everybody expected.

Basically just a long, drawn-out way to say "No updates (outside of the 2 new jobs, duh) until 7.1"

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Originally Posted by Cidel

The funniest thing about it was that they actually took the time to be like: "And that does it for the PvE job updates. Now let's talk about the PvP stuff: ...We're working on it... Here's a slide full of foregone conclusions that everybody expected.

Basically just a long, drawn-out way to say "No updates (outside of the 2 new jobs, duh) until 7.1"

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Which we knew based on previous expansion cycles. Let's just hope they are really going to put some effort into improvements. They certainly have plenty of scope.

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Originally Posted by Mawlzy

Which we knew based on previous expansion cycles. Let's just hope they are really going to put some effort into improvements. They certainly have plenty of scope.

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Which is why it was a foregone conclusion that everybody expected, thank you.

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Originally Posted by Cidel

Which is why it was a foregone conclusion that everybody expected, thank you.

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You're very welcome.

I have a question about the pre-season -- if your ranking won't be affected but tiers will, how does that NOT affect your ranking? Do you just hit a cap and stay there?

My only hope is that they cap aoe skills to 5 targets. If they don't do it at 7.1, l think l would give up any hope for frontline

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Originally Posted by Stormfur

I have a question about the pre-season -- if your ranking won't be affected but tiers will, how does that NOT affect your ranking? Do you just hit a cap and stay there?

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There are no rankings but you can still queue into ranked and gain points. Your tier, ie. Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum, Diamond, Crystal, can still rise, but since there are no rankings the leaderboard won't be counting you against other players, and you won't gain any rewards.

Can they really just reduce the damage reduction in FL it to damn high people barely die, it PvP but everyone feels like a Tank. Like it normal to die in PvP and that just not the case in FL lately.

I'm curious if we will go a major patch without a series pass since series 5 only last till DT release.

I really feel like they need to make PvP matches in general reward additional series EXP based on the match runtime or something because it's cultivated an attitude where some people will just throw as soon as a match starts going south because it's faster to just lose then to drag things for several more minutes and potentially still lose and get the same amount of EXP anyways.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

I really feel like they need to make PvP matches in general reward additional series EXP based on the match runtime or something because it's cultivated an attitude where some people will just throw as soon as a match starts going south because it's faster to just lose then to drag things for several more minutes and potentially still lose and get the same amount of EXP anyways.

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Given the way everything seems to get min-maxed in 14, particularly if it's some kinda reward, I can envision the one-and-done crowd taking a leaf out of the premade book, and Q-synch in as PLD to max XP though matches going to time limit.

I'm not expecting any job skills to be added outside of the ones going to Viper and Picto. It would undo a lot of the balancing they've done in Endwalker, (Whether you agree with it, or not.) I don't have many problems with how it is at the moment. My guess is both new jobs launch undertuned. Heres to hoping if that is the case they aren't given the Bard treatment.

I would also be curious as to what, if any changes are coming to the reward system, especially how they handle crystals coming into 7.1 - It's time to bring back the FoMo rewards.

The way they brushed over changes coming to frontlines/CC would suggest they've probably not even begun working on it. In that scenario, even a 7.1 major update to PvP may be optimistic.

Please put Rival Wings as roulette please please please please please

I'm going to guess from past records, potency buffs/nerfs. Cooldowns going up and down and WHM miracle still being broken and dragoon LB being the most broken damage in the game besides NIN LB

I don't play DK but I find it is interesting that they thinks they know better than Devs who has access to all data
When people contribute their "idea" in below thread, do they even realize Salted Earth was never an issue until DRG has access to their new signature LB Sky Shatter ?

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...t-in-Frontline

Salted Earth was only a nuisance at old Secure
There are so many ways to remove the synergy between Salted Earth and Sky Shatter without making a job unplayable.
What if Sky Shatter got changed into a single target burst?
Wouldn't that be easier?

I don't know why we're having a DRK arguement here, or why a DRK thread is being linked here. It sounds like you should be posting in that thread.

If changes to Salted Earth are inevitable, the Dark Knights can cry me a damn river. It's absolute BS that Salted Earths draw in isn't negated by purify. For a company that allegedly has all this "Data" they sure proved that they were incapable of acting on it, or understanding what was going on in any mode other than Crystaline Conflict.

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I don't know why we're having a DRK arguement here, or why a DRK thread is being linked here. It sounds like you should be posting in that thread.

If changes to Salted Earth are inevitable, the Dark Knights can cry me a damn river. It's absolute BS that Salted Earths draw in isn't negated by purify. For a company that allegedly has all this "Data" they sure proved that they were incapable of acting on it, or understanding what was going on in any mode other than Crystaline Conflict.

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Agree they seem stunningly poor at acting on the numbers they have, but to really understand the shortcomings of a mode, they need to play it.