Endwalker Graphic Update - Hyur Face 2 - I am DEVASTATED

Please everything is wrong with the hyur face 2!
This was a particular face i know and that everything !!
I don't even recognize my own character with whom i've played for 3 years!

The face is too smooth and the cheeks are too big
The nose is too big
The eyes are way off and too small
Whatever the option nothing helps !!

It was an angular face and it stood out with the rest of the hyur faces that looked like dolls!!

I'm at the point i'm not even excited for Dawntrail anymore i don't even want to play the game!!

https://i.ibb.co/7SzcpY5/Hyur-face2-change.png
https://i.ibb.co/TT15wR3/Hyur-face2-comparison.png


edit: I'm so desperate i mixed the extention in the title

Seriously? I can hardly notice a difference ....

*runs away*



Cheers

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Originally Posted by Larirawiel

Seriously? I can hardly notice a difference ....

*runs away*



Cheers

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Please have some respect for people and go troll somewhere else!

I know my hyur to the bones and i don't recognize my own character, maybe you don't see change, but they are in fact HUGE

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Originally Posted by Rawazh

Please have some respect for people and go troll somewhere else!

I know my hyur to the bones and i don't recognize my own character, maybe you don't see change, but they are in fact HUGE

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I do not troll. ;)


And if you make a character comparison then do not use this blue Hydaelyn crystal background. You character will look different in the game world. And i had to use a fantasia because of it. -.-



Cheers

I agree, I have the same face for my character that is supposed to look androgynous and now looks like a feminized rework and with more make up... I don't really like it

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Originally Posted by Larirawiel

I do not troll. ;)


And if you make a character comparison then do not use this blue Hydaelyn crystal background. You character will look different in the game world. And i had to use a fantasia because of it. -.-



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I'm sorry you are blind.
https://i.ibb.co/TT15wR3/Hyur-face2-comparison.png

I only forgot to change the 'face paint'
Overall she is supposed to be the same character, yet, the face frame looks totally different, the lips shape have changed and lost definition, the scar now looks orange/unnatural, and the hair looks worse than before. This texture doesn't help the hair, it makes it look unnatural more like a synthetic wig


Not to mention the "dead eyes" that almost all races suffer now...

https://i.ibb.co/n13Ybvg/husky.png

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Originally Posted by Jessica_VS

The face shape is different. Your earlier images show an angular face (maybe and oval or diamond shaped face), but the new version is heart-shaped with a pointier chin. The lips, eyes, hair, etc. all look better on the new model, but the face shape's difference would bother me if I was used to the original shape.

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Thats entirely the point, Hyur face 2 has an angular face, maybe it wasn't the most popular face but many of us chose this one for this reason

I'm mad and sad because they said they wanted to not make significant changes, and that's the opposite of it here

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Originally Posted by Rawazh

I'm sorry you are blind.
https://i.ibb.co/TT15wR3/Hyur-face2-comparison.png

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Different angles, different lighting, different scenes. The pictures are absolutely not comparable.



Cheers

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Originally Posted by KhujaRela

I only forgot to change the 'face paint'
Overall she is supposed to be the same character, yet, the face frame looks totally different, the lips shape have changed and lost definition, the scar now looks orange/unnatural, and the hair looks worse than before. This texture doesn't help the hair, it makes it look unnatural more like a synthetic wig


Not to mention the "dead eyes" that almost all races suffer now...

https://i.ibb.co/n13Ybvg/husky.png

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The lips are the change that's killing me the most. The new lips and their texture are looking bad in every race I'm checking.
orz

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Originally Posted by Clover_Blake

The lips are the change that's killing me the most. The new lips and their texture are looking bad in every race I'm checking.
orz

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I play Hyur and switch sometimes and this was one of the reasons I loved face 2 was her lips/mouth. It does seem the lips look dull? and not as pretty now.

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Originally Posted by Larirawiel

Different angles, different lighting, different scenes. The pictures are absolutely not comparable.



Cheers

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For the love of God please can you leave the thread?
You're being ridiculous
Everyone here notice the changes except you, i know it's hard to admit you are wrong, but at least, again, be respectful and accept that your perception about a character you never played is out of place.

I don't know what you are trying to do, but changes needs to be made, and you are not helping at all.

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Originally Posted by Rawazh

Please everything is wrong with the hyur face 2!
This was a particular face i know and that everything !!
I don't even recognize my own character with whom i've played for 3 years!

The face is too smooth and the cheeks are too big
The nose is too big
The eyes are way off and too small
Whatever the option nothing helps !!

It was an angular face and it stood out with the rest of the hyur faces that looked like dolls!!

I'm at the point i'm not even excited for Dawntrail anymore i don't even want to play the game!!

https://i.ibb.co/7SzcpY5/Hyur-face2-change.png
https://i.ibb.co/TT15wR3/Hyur-face2-comparison.png


edit: I'm so desperate i mixed the extention in the title

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Taking the right most photos in the top example for my examination:
- Hair style is missing some of the "tuft" in the back, or looks thinner at least.
- Eyebrows look relatively the same, maybe a bit lighter?
- Eyes have been made wider/larger or the new makeup is giving off the appearance of that, dead eyes
- Cheeks are puffier/chubbier
- Nose is wider
- Philtrum is more well defined
- Lips are larger/fuller or lipstick is giving off that effect
- Chin looks reshaped (I guess is the word I'd use)...more angular?

To me it kind of looks like they just smooshed everything down a bit and made the head smaller and rounder in the cheeks especially.

It's true that while I do not find the change ugly.. They are not the same characters. Mine have the same issue and look much Younger, which juste doesn't fit her vibe anymore ?
The face seems larger and the eyes to far apart and the face is not as sharp as before. I would have liked to stay closer to the original face =/. Not everyone want to have a younger face.

They made way too many faces look 'happy' and they don't retain the same appeal people were going for. The skin is also just too clean and plastic looking.

It is sadly true that Fem Hyur faces have suffered a lot. The only one looking better than before is 4. My Wife used 1 and she was crying today. It is that bad.

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Originally Posted by Araxes

It is sadly true that Fem Hyur faces have suffered a lot. The only one looking better than before is 4. My Wife used 1 and she was crying today. It is that bad.

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Well i cried too, my wol is everything to me, she has so much place in my life and i adore her, but i don't know who it is anymore and i'm super hurt!
I really don't know why they changed midlander so much, they just had to smooth a bit and update the texture, we never asked for a complete change like they did!

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Originally Posted by Rawazh

Please everything is wrong with the hyur face 2!
This was a particular face i know and that everything !!
I don't even recognize my own character with whom i've played for 3 years!

The face is too smooth and the cheeks are too big
The nose is too big
The eyes are way off and too small
Whatever the option nothing helps !!

It was an angular face and it stood out with the rest of the hyur faces that looked like dolls!!

I'm at the point i'm not even excited for Dawntrail anymore i don't even want to play the game!!

https://i.ibb.co/7SzcpY5/Hyur-face2-change.png
https://i.ibb.co/TT15wR3/Hyur-face2-comparison.png


edit: I'm so desperate i mixed the extention in the title

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There are things I like more and less in both the before and after shots. I find the most drastic change to be the face shape, which regardless of how much improvement there is overall, is going to make your character look completely different. The closeup picture on the left is the Benchmark version, correct? If it is, that is the one I like the most. Her face is rounder/more feminine. The lighting is obviously much better, and her eye brows are more realistic. The mole under her right eye doesn't make me think there is a piece of debris stuck to my laptop screen. Also, everyone in the game both male and female suffer from raccoon eye syndrome. It's something that drives me nuts, the updates I'm seeing looks to have improved this a good deal. However, because this is not my own character the changes are less impactful. If my own character's face shape changed this much, I also would not be very happy.

Wrong angle. The jaw is same from front and also from side view.

https://i.imgur.com/doFJfiG.jpeg

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Originally Posted by Gemina

There are things I like more and less in both the before and after shots. I find the most drastic change to be the face shape, which regardless of how much improvement there is overall, is going to make your character look completely different. The closeup picture on the left is the Benchmark version, correct? If it is, that is the one I like the most. Her face is rounder/more feminine. The lighting is obviously much better, and her eye brows are more realistic. The mole under her right eye doesn't make me think there is a piece of debris stuck to my laptop screen. Also, everyone in the game both male and female suffer from raccoon eye syndrome. It's something that drives me nuts, the updates I'm seeing looks to have improved this a good deal. However, because this is not my own character the changes are less impactful. If my own character's face shape changed this much, I also would not be very happy.

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That the thing i don't want my character to look "more feminine", she was perfect before that
If i wanted a more rounded face, i'd have chosen the other middie faces - face 2 was really the best for an adult looking in her 30th

I posted it in the japanese thread here [x], to have more chance to be noticed, with more detailed feedback and screenshots, now i cannot do much, i just hope the team will read about the main issue of the face! q.q

The "natural" contouring of her nose from the original seems to be less visible
The shading just needs to be darkened, skin translucency toned back and more natural contouring brought back/ re-done.