F Viera Face 2 Benchmark Lip Textures

I wasn't sure where to post this, so I apologize if this isn't the right place. I want to bring attention to the textures on female Viera face 2.

In my opinion, the lips look worse in the benchmark than they do in the current game. It's like the textures are even more low resolution. They don't line up with the mouth properly either, and the shadows look very weird no matter what lighting I put them in.

For example,

With light lip color:
https://i.imgur.com/Jk1O9Kb.png

No lip color:
https://i.imgur.com/fOxD3yc.png

Dark lip color:
https://i.imgur.com/3aqoXka.png

Compared to what we have currently (using light lip color):
https://i.imgur.com/eGmjp4G.png

It just feels like a huge downgrade. I was really disappointed that my WoL looked so low-quality compared to the other three faces. I hope this is just benchmark testing stuff and won't be carried over to the official game release.

Yeah, that actually looks really bad. Viera already profited from better-looking textures despite being the same resolution so I have no idea why they brought them back to ARR quality on that face.

It's like they just upscaled the low-res textures and slapped them on the new mesh. ;_; I've noticed the issue on my face 5 female Midlander as well. Kind of let down...

I've noticed that as well. Faces 1 and 3 look fine, but 2 and 4 got a downgrade.

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Originally Posted by kiraira

It's like they just upscaled the low-res textures and slapped them on the new mesh. ;_; I've noticed the issue on my face 5 female Midlander as well. Kind of let down...

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It's not even the low res version, it's like they removed the original detail from the lips and made them look incredibly flat.

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Originally Posted by Absurdity

It's not even the low res version, it's like they removed the original detail from the lips and made them look incredibly flat.

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This is EXACTLY what I was thinking. My character feels flat now. I really hope they'll consider feedback before Dawntrail officially launches... They fixed the male Viera scoliosis last minute, so surely this isn't out of the question?

Face 1 here. My lips look COMPLETELY different and lower quality than before. They're not even the same damn shape.

Overall completely unhappy with the way they look in the benchmark. Back to the drawing board, SE.

Endwalker: https://i.imgur.com/aN78Lig.png
Dawntrail: https://i.imgur.com/cFP0Koi.png

Lips aside they also pretty much downgraded eyelashes all across the board for viera.
https://i.imgur.com/Io3om1t.png
https://i.imgur.com/7HMm9Oe.png
Like how is this an upgrade at all? Dead eyes, lightened eyebrows and mushy as hell eyelashes.

EDIT: Holy what have they done to face 4

https://i.imgur.com/57laAho.png
This is the same shape Square?

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Originally Posted by Redgate

https://i.imgur.com/cFP0Koi.png

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Those are the eyes of someone who's not happy with the changes.

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Originally Posted by kiraira

I wasn't sure where to post this, so I apologize if this isn't the right place. I want to bring attention to the textures on female Viera face 2.

In my opinion, the lips look worse in the benchmark than they do in the current game. It's like the textures are even more low resolution. They don't line up with the mouth properly either, and the shadows look very weird no matter what lighting I put them in.

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Updating to add an image re: the texture not lining up with the lips. It's especially noticeable during any kind of expression, in any lighting that isn't blinding enough to sunder shadows from existence (i.e Gridania):

https://i.imgur.com/9i1o87x.png

A shame that this face only looks even remotely decent in the aetherial sea anymore. Still hoping that it won't be permanent in Dawntrail. ;_;

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Originally Posted by kiraira

I wasn't sure where to post this, so I apologize if this isn't the right place. I want to bring attention to the textures on female Viera face 2.

In my opinion, the lips look worse in the benchmark than they do in the current game. It's like the textures are even more low resolution. They don't line up with the mouth properly either, and the shadows look very weird no matter what lighting I put them in.

For example,

With light lip color:
https://i.imgur.com/Jk1O9Kb.png

No lip color:
https://i.imgur.com/fOxD3yc.png

Dark lip color:
https://i.imgur.com/3aqoXka.png

Compared to what we have currently (using light lip color):
https://i.imgur.com/eGmjp4G.png

It just feels like a huge downgrade. I was really disappointed that my WoL looked so low-quality compared to the other three faces. I hope this is just benchmark testing stuff and won't be carried over to the official game release.

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For some reason it seems like they have removed definition on the lips on all the female faces from what I have seen. Even face 3 lips are completely messed up and made it look like my character is always frowning.
I notice especially that they made the part where the mouth separates into a straight line, while compared to the current graphics, there's clearly a defined shape. It just looks objectively worse.

Another disappointed bun here...

I'm confused as to why the shape of the lips on face 4 were changed so much (especially after they said multiple times at fanfest that they wouldn't make any dramatic changes). Sure, all the lips have slightly changed (lighting, subsurface scattering, blah blah blah), but the shape of 4's lips has been outright changed.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLMHMTgb...g&name=360x360 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLMHMTgb...g&name=360x360

As it stands right now, the lips on face 1 (in current and benchmark) look more like what the current face 4's lips have. People have pointed out that we'll all be getting a free fantasia at launch but with the current "customisation" system (of features being locked to specific faces), no amount of fantasia is gonna allow me to put face 1's lips on face 4.

To slightly add to my last post, I've seen a lot of people say to wait til we see our character in the actual trailer as they look better there than in character customisation.... yeah, thanks I hate it even more now. This close-up shot just looks cursed/terrifying:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLTeoJCa...jpg&name=small

I also ran the benchmark with her using face 1 and face 2, and although she still looks like she's plotting world domination (or is once again possessed by Zenos), the lips/smile looks way better.

I feel like this graphical update has a weird thing for giving everyone a very apathetic/dead inside default expression. My au ri look fine (unlike my bunboy, alas, but I've lamented him enough in another thread), but the lips still make them look so bored and uncaring when they had a little faint smile beforehand.

Here's one of my Raen girls, Calypso (ew first, then dt)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLavaq0W...pg&name=mediumhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLavbeiX...pg&name=medium