Orange Materia

Huah! Good God. What is it good for? Absolutely NOTHING.

No, but seriously. Does anyone actually use Orange Materia or is it just widely acknowledged as useless? Could there be any plans for it in the future, possibly increasing the types of armor it can be melded to. Hell, if jewelry could be melded I might be inclined to slide some heavy resist on a ring or two.

Mmmm, citrus flavored...

They are good for reducing the number of available inventory spaces you have. Actually, they are great for that!


Jk, they do have one real use; they are great for using to get your gamblers crown so that you don't have to use a bunch of expensive materia for it.

since almost no mob use debuffs that really affect gameplay i dont think that the materia is useful now. i bet when we get more debuffs and they actually become worth using, we will get mobs that aslo use them and we will need to build a strategy around resisting a certain debuff. in 11 for instance you would have a fire resist set or a slow resist set or a sleep resist set for certain bosses. now everything is kinda still zerg fest so having those resist sets isnt worth it

Game has devolved into a DPS fest having a tactical advantage like resist vs slow is pointless because the two monsters in the game that inflic the status on you can

1. Be dodged
2. be killed before they even think about using a TP move.

could be very useful in pvp

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Originally Posted by Shosasosa

since almost no mob use debuffs that really affect gameplay i dont think that the materia is useful now. i bet when we get more debuffs and they actually become worth using, we will get mobs that aslo use them and we will need to build a strategy around resisting a certain debuff. in 11 for instance you would have a fire resist set or a slow resist set or a sleep resist set for certain bosses. now everything is kinda still zerg fest so having those resist sets isnt worth it

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Lots of mobs use debuffs, lots also have attacks that have additional effects of certain debuffs. The thing is, mobs die so quickly you almost never see it.

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Originally Posted by Doho

Huah! Good God. What is it good for? Absolutely NOTHING.

No, but seriously. Does anyone actually use Orange Materia or is it just widely acknowledged as useless? Could there be any plans for it in the future, possibly increasing the types of armor it can be melded to. Hell, if jewelry could be melded I might be inclined to slide some heavy resist on a ring or two.

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Pssssst. It a secret!!

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Originally Posted by Noir

Pssssst. It a secret!!

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haha that picture made me think of Link opening a chest in Ocarina of Time for some reason. this scenario:

Link approaches chest. chest creaks up slowly.
*dun na na na nanananannana DUN DUN DUN DUUUUUN*

"You found Bison's Hoof Materia III... yay... surely it's good for something... right?"

everything is being setup for 2.0 so it might be useful at launch.

Mobs die too fast to even have it. Except for the NM, bosses, and a select few. Which most can be avoided.

I think you could see a use if a couple things are added to the overall system

1. Debuffs (enfeebles) have more bang. which would mean...
2. A selection of non WHM classes/jobs recive some way to remove/lessen the effects of those now stronger debuffs
3. The Orange materia resistance is a high enough total that you don't need it on every piece of gear to get any tangible (tangerine?) results.

While WHM has the best, and i would think (Opinion alert) should have the strongest Debuff removal, if debuffs get stronger to the point they make a real impact we're putting another heavy load squarely on our WHM brethern's shoulders. And i think a good way to put some responcibility for the groups well being onto the DD's shoulders.

Not to mention give a good chunck of the DD more to think about then Damage and "get out of the fire"
As a Main Dragoon and a general fan of DD/DPS work i very much enjoy when Devs put some caretaking ability on my shoulders aswell.

(If you like stories....
For the time i played WOW i liked playing a Fire Mage. Before they borked it Blast wave was my Offencive utility spell. put points in it too. Got badmouthed for it a couple times, but when enemies would charge the healers and i would spot up behind them, Blast wave them away with a knockback and stun, giving the tank time to gather them back up, it shut some pie holes. While not exactly the same as removing debuff i picked this route to fulfill a backup role besides my burning fire of death role, and that was to give the healers and the tank, +/- 6 more seconds to get the job done.

Not all DDs enjoy having any role besides damage > target. But i would not mind at all if SE gave us other ways to aid the group towards their goal. This might be a good way to do just that.

I would like it if buffs and debuffs played a larger role :o I really hope it has an impact on pvp. Don't know why it doesn't on bosses :(

I'm making my orange double melds NOW, while no one is buying and they're all cheap as a bag of pucks.
I suggest you all do the same. >_> After all, they're cheap anyway.
When Garuda was announced, Wind Resistance materia jumped from 10k to 500k almost over night.

I would be surprised if SE doesn't find a use for it in future content, and even then,
as someone else pointed out in this topic, PvP.

Post Edit: I finally doubled melded a pair of Sleep Resistance pants! +21
I've been waiting months for those materia to turn up. ... ... SLEEP RESIST. >_>

we also build resist like mob :) so, who cares

What about food cosume Materia?

In FFXI players found out that if you stacked enough resistance to an element like fire, most fire based attacks will do miniscule damage to you. (We're talking turning a 300+ damage hit to 9~20)

I don't know if resistance stats function the same here, but for the orange stuff... I can't think of any situation where I would ever use them over other materia.

I remember when Aurum Vale was introduced, thinking, "hey, some of that poison resist materia might be handy for running around in those poison rooms." Nope. So... yeah.

Right now? Useless pretty much.

In the future? Heh... I'm not even going to speculate. We might get completely blindsided.

all great stuff in this thread. i still just hope that one day jewelry is meldable, that would be a logical place to dump all these oranges.

They're useful if you're after the melding achievements. I imagine they'll see more use on 2.0 mobs and during PvP.

Given the current melding system the only way i could see these getting a bit more play would be to basically give them a free pass when being slotted into a multi melded piece of equipment.

But in truth. The amount of monsters that use serious amounts of debuffs are small. At most I get hit with gravity and poison(this is including all effects like choke) and petrification. Once in every third blue moon I will get slapped with a slow, blind, or paralyze. The frequency is simply not enough to justify the loss of a potential good stat in that slot.

Sure they might be useful come 2.0. I also might hit the lottery or be abducted by a cult of beautiful woman who only live to fill my every desire. I don't see those happening either. In the mean time curse your luck when you create one or make a pair of irrelevant sleep resistant jammies for your crown.

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Originally Posted by Doho

haha that picture made me think of Link opening a chest in Ocarina of Time for some reason. this scenario:

Link approaches chest. chest creaks up slowly.
*dun na na na nanananannana DUN DUN DUN DUUUUUN*

"You found Bison's Hoof Materia III... yay... surely it's good for something... right?"

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NO it's dark matter grade 5 get it right