Tail/Ear Swapping (Animal Races)

Perhaps instead of a new race for the people who like animal races we can just swap the Miqo'te tail and ears to match a new animal such as foxes, wolves, ect.

If altering Miqo'te is too much for some of you then perhaps we can just have a new race that has different animal tails and ears. Being able to change the tail and ears to a wide range of animals is the point though.


Lore wise: A isolated village of Miqo'te has taken on different animal aspects due to close contact with something or other for a long period of time blah blah blah. I'm sure the devs can do better then I can.

I read the title as "swap ears with tails"


and LOL'd

..and drew it...

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg38/...pg&res=landing

:O I want coincounter's male lion tail....

I think one furryeartailed race is enough. I'd rather just see more distinct ear shapes for the already existing miqote.

we should get Vierra :P

Hark, is that another Elin request i hear?

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Originally Posted by TessaJalloh

Hark, is that another Elin request i hear?

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eh? Sorry I don't play Tera. /on topic plz

I like this idea, I want fox ears..I've always liked fox girls more then cat girls (<3 holo!) but I doubt they will do this :( You never know though!

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Originally Posted by Babydoll

I like this idea, I want fox ears..I've always liked fox girls more then cat girls (<3 holo!) but I doubt they will do this :( You never know though!

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If this gets enough attention I'm sure they'd do it. Its not like it would be extremely hard to make a few tail and ear models and skin them.

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Originally Posted by ToxicFox

If this gets enough attention I'm sure they'd do it. Its not like it would be extremely hard to make a few tail and ear models and skin them.

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True! I am skeptical I guess because SE never even gave us the simple choice of having long hair. (Just an example lol) Every hair style in this game is short ; ;

The customization choices in character creation atm are so meager...when they made a claim in 2010 that we will be "overwhelmed" with how much customization they were giving us..then we got...yeah lol. I was picturing something along the lines of Aion!

But yes..if they open their minds a bit as they are claiming to with 2.0, I can see this happening :) Along with my dream of long hair haha and other things <3 We already have male Miqote and female Roegadyn so who knows ^^

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Originally Posted by TessaJalloh

Hark, is that another Elin request i hear?

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came in to say this.

I'm down for this!

This idea just popped to mind... if they don't want to add races then what if we got special holiday event materia that you could meld to a belt or hat that became different tail/ears?
It needs to fully swap out too.. so if Miqote made a fox tail belt, the regular tail wouldn't be coming out of it like on the reindeer costumes XD

I'd rather the game not become a random hodgepodge of fanservice and anime tropes

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Originally Posted by Jocko

I'd rather the game not become a random hodgepodge of fanservice and anime tropes

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Yeah I agree :o They could maybe let us slightly alter the ears like they do the tail..just a little bit more so. That way we could have ears that kinda resemble wolves, fox, or the more traditional cat..hehe and that way not everyone will look the same :o

The one thing I really like about this game (and XI) is that I could actually picture RL people looking like the characters we play. I usually like the anime type look but I think SE did a very nice job making these races look very realistic.

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Originally Posted by Mudd

How many people have asked for a tail?
If they added jump, they can add a damn tail to a Roeg via a different tribe.
I still stand by that via tribes we can get tall Miqo with bunny ears, and Roegs with tails, if people would have just supported it instead of VEIRA VEIRA VEIRA
But anyways~

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Originally Posted by Mudd

There might be if people would just support alternate tribes for current races instead of VIERA VIERA VIERA

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Originally Posted by Mudd

Edit: All things considered, a lot of the things people want could have potential to be in the game if they just supported the new tribes option on the poll..
We could get a variant of taller Miqotes with bunny tails and bunny ears instead.
Furry Lalafells with long ears. (Moogles from FF12 and Lalafell are built rather identically..)
Roegs with tails.
Burmecian and Bangaa are really the only ones that Require a new race.

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I'm glad we're on the same page somewhat

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

I read the title as "swap ears with tails"


and LOL'd

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Yeah, me too. Weird!

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Originally Posted by Babydoll

I like this idea, I want fox ears..I've always liked fox girls more then cat girls (<3 holo!) but I doubt they will do this :( You never know though!

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Absolutely this. Fox girls > everything else.

Just No.

/10char

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Originally Posted by Momita

Just No.

/10char

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Care to explain why?

I hopes on the 2.0 character creation option > Tail Shape > has the lion tail option :D

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Originally Posted by Babydoll

Yeah I agree :o They could maybe let us slightly alter the ears like they do the tail..just a little bit more so. That way we could have ears that kinda resemble wolves, fox, or the more traditional cat..hehe and that way not everyone will look the same :o

The one thing I really like about this game (and XI) is that I could actually picture RL people looking like the characters we play. I usually like the anime type look but I think SE did a very nice job making these races look very realistic.

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Yes they really managed to bring a realistic touch to both games. I enjoy leaving the races how they are but all wouldn't mind if they added an ability to make a few adjustments to tails and ears for those who want. I know we are definitely getting a larger selection of customization for each race at 2.0.

I'd rather them do this than waste the new race we're getting on viera.

Perhaps this should have been added to the much larger character creation thread. But I agree it would be fun~! Then go to the barber shop and switch it up every once in a while, make a race creatures like that.

nooooo thank you. It's a cheap way to create "new races"

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Originally Posted by Rokien

nooooo thank you. It's a cheap way to create "new races"

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Would you rather have a cheap way to have new races that works out fairly well or a new races that cuts into the devs time every time they try to make new armor?

this thread is awful and you people should feel awful

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Originally Posted by Adelle

this thread is awful and you people should feel awful

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Well ok if you say so I'll just go slit my wrists now. Hope you have a good day. These forums have some of the worst people I've ever seen...

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Originally Posted by Adelle

this thread is awful and you people should feel awful

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Your reply is awful and you should feel awful.

I posted this before but...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...v1ch04_159.jpg

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Originally Posted by Spy

I posted this before but...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...v1ch04_159.jpg

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That's pretty interesting and funny but I hope they restrict us to one set of ears. It would be weird having a bunch of ears on one person.

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

I read the title as "swap ears with tails"


and LOL'd

..and drew it...

http://s10.postimage.org/f51cha107/Ear_Tail_Swap.jpg

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lolllllll well done

No one who has said no to this has bothered to explain why...

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Originally Posted by ToxicFox

No one who has said no to this has bothered to explain why...

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I'll bite.

Many people don't realize that Customization and Creative Vision are mutually exclusive and are on the opposite ends of a spectrum. (just as Liberty and Equality are).

Final Fantasy has traditionally been a game of Creative Vision. It is why we have memorable characters throughout the series like Cecil, Terra, Cloud, Aerith, etc.. If players were given the opportunity to design their own party members from scratch, we would talk about them as much as we discuss the personality of Skyrim or Dark Souls main characters.

Now MMO games require Customization for your main characters. There's simply no realistic way to create a hundred thousand characters each with unique storylines.. So instead, the Devs achieve Creative Vision via a cohesive world inhabited by Races - each with distinct cultures, features, etc. The distinction of the races adds flavor to the world, and it give players a foundation from which to build their own characters.

Mi'qote are a race of cat-people. Adding bunny, fox, hippo elephant or other animal ears (or tails) to them means that they lose all distinction as race. The personality foundation that their current design has endowed them with would evaporate completely if they became a mere hodgepodge of animal ears and tails.

Devoid of any standard look, what the Mi'qote become? Morphlings?? Why can they only change ears and tails and not have claws, wings, horns or centipede legs? What of all the NPCs in the game? Are they part of a lost Mi'qote race or do the devs have to redesign all Mi'qote NPCs in the game to re-establish a real race again?

What room is there for new races when by a Viera, Padjal, Nou Mu, or Burmicians could just as easily be a Morph'qote variation?

There are many implications and trade-offs for going down this path, and most of them are very problematic from a designer's perspective.

I'd say if you want fox-people in the game, bring it up to the devs and see. But if they don't end up going that way, try to understand that they likely have a large and far-reaching vision for the game and your idea may not have worked for it. If it's a deal-breaker, then it might be best to find something that better suits you.

But if not, why not go along for the ride?

After all, how many of our favorite experiences in life were crafted by ourselves? And how many times have we gotten exactly what we asked for and found out that it wasn't as great as we thought it would be?

I won't quote you to save space.

So basically you don't want the race options because you feel it would harm the lore of miqo'te however with the moon crashing down and destroying everything the devs can do basically whatever they want and have it make sense. Well I don't think I can change your mind on protecting the miqo'te lore no matter what I do nor will I really try to. There was as stated in the main post a suggestion of making the new race they plan to add be this mix and match race.

The reason I want the ears and tail to be swappable is to allow people to play as whatever they want to. This is finale fantasy after all and we should be able to play our fantasy as we wish. If a few people don't like it then they can cry in a corner. Its better to give freedom to the players to be whatever they want then to restrict them to a handful of races because of a stupid reason like not being able to have strong enough lore tied to them. Fact is you can make the lore work with everything if you took a little bit to think about it. If we do get this race in the game then we can make a lot of fans happy as they can play as a bunny, wolf, fox, and so on.

You suggested requesting a fox race if I wanted to play as a fox. Yes I want to play as a fox however I don't think other people should get denied the race they want just to make a race that is going to be almost the same as the miqo'te. There are people who would like to play as bunnies or wolves which the same basic model will work for them without issues. Then SE can add a race that is totally different if they want to and we can end up with a lot more options to make our characters our own. I think being able to say this is my char and it looks exactly how I wanted it to is more important then saying my char was a "insert race here" with "insert color hair here"