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DPS queues, am I right?
Seriously though, what duty is that? lol

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Originally Posted by CVXIV

DPS queues, am I right?
Seriously though, what duty is that? lol

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They need to find ways to encourage people to run these beyond Moogle Tomestones every 4 months.

Today's queues are pretty slow, probably because so many ppl doing the xv event. Hopefully it picks up again soon. I had a near 20 minute queue for susano today as a tank.

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games dead, what do you expect tbh

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They need to find ways to encourage people to run these beyond Moogle Tomestones every 4 months.

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Yeah I wish people ran those raids more. I know SE adjusted it so people couldn't get into lower level alliance raids based on item level but it doesn't seem to work as intended. I could be wrong but whenever I do it I seem to get either ARR or Endwalker.

i've gotten puppets bunker more times than i'd like doing alliance roulette

Oh hey, last night I queued for 205 minutes for puppets bunker before giving up and going to bed

A solution to the issue would have been if they made Nier raids a requirement for the EW relic just to make more people unlock them

Didn't you know? Everyone goes to Aether for content now.

Maybe if the game actually encouraged anything besides CT we might not have this problem

I’ve queued for all three nier raids together for over an hour in peak time on a healer on aether and never got them to pop

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Didn't you know? Everyone goes to Aether for content now.

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I always found my roulette queues to be fastest on crystal, but overall more knowledgeable players on aether when it comes to dungeon mechs etc

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games dead, what do you expect tbh

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Yeah I wish people ran those raids more. I know SE adjusted it so people couldn't get into lower level alliance raids based on item level but it doesn't seem to work as intended. I could be wrong but whenever I do it I seem to get either ARR or Endwalker.

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Because CT raids are still the only ones required for MSQ progression -- and they're the lowest level. Even without ilvl cheese, they're always going to be the most likely to pop, statistically.

As for Myths, that's because of the coins; they're still relevant for those gearing up alt jobs or otherwise playing catch-up.

Nier is so lucky they have glams people want quite a lot, if not cannot imagine you could ever do those ever again

Gee, if only Mentor Roulette could help fill slots in those abysmal Alliance Raid queues...

Start making all optional content not-optional for MSQ progress once it's two expansions in the past. Good idea or not, I've grown tired of old story threads from that stuff not being tied into future events, and it would have the added effect of forcing at least a few more people to run them.

And of all Duties to put in the Mogpendium they've chosen Crystal Tower raids, because... huh?

If only there was a way to encourage people to play unpopular duties besides events. Like special items and increased rewards accomodating the length of the Duty. But small indie company SE can't afford that.

"Enjoy the obscene queue times on top of loot RNG for your glamour collection, we do not treasure your time anymore! :>"

I think once a player has finished an expansion they should be required to do the relevant alliance raids before queueing for the roulette again, like how mentor roulette needs to be unlocked again whenever there are new duties.
For example, if a new player finishes Shadowbringers then the alliance raid roulette should have a lock icon and list The Copied Factory, The Puppet's Bunker, and the Tower at Paradigm's Breach as prerequisites to unlock it.
I know people would complain about not being able to do it for however long it takes them to get the next raids unlocked but I don't think it's a big deal, you won't die if you can't queue for alliance roulette for a couple days or a week.
And maybe move crystal tower to MSQ roulette, but they're probably too short for that, Idk.

Remember how shb had quests tied to relics that had people doing like all the content... If we had that in this expansion those queues would pop more during this drought leading into DT. SE is damned either way, people complain about having to do stuff or not having anything to do.

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I think once a player has finished an expansion they should be required to do the relevant alliance raids before queueing for the roulette again, like how mentor roulette needs to be unlocked again whenever there are new duties.
For example, if a new player finishes Shadowbringers then the alliance raid roulette should have a lock icon and list The Copied Factory, The Puppet's Bunker, and the Tower at Paradigm's Breach as prerequisites to unlock it.
I know people would complain about not being able to do it for however long it takes them to get the next raids unlocked but I don't think it's a big deal, you won't die if you can't queue for alliance roulette for a couple days or a week.
And maybe move crystal tower to MSQ roulette, but they're probably too short for that, Idk.

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Y'know , even though they're alliance raids I can get behind that idea since they're mandatory for MSQ now

Was super fun waiting for an hour to unlock STB raids when I did it a couple years back. xD AR queues seem to never change.

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Yeah I wish people ran those raids more. I know SE adjusted it so people couldn't get into lower level alliance raids based on item level but it doesn't seem to work as intended. I could be wrong but whenever I do it I seem to get either ARR or Endwalker.

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It's working exactly as intended. People scapegoated ilevel cheese but that wasn't the reason those raids were popping up so much.

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Maybe if the game actually encouraged anything besides CT we might not have this problem

I’ve queued for all three nier raids together for over an hour in peak time on a healer on aether and never got them to pop

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DING DING DING

Even the newest mogtome event encourages people to run CT even more because OF COURSE it does. Outside of glam farming or sheer enjoyment, there's no real reason for loads of people to queue the later alliance raids so they take ages to pop. The mogtome event could have corrected this, but nope nope nope gotta have it be limited to CT so the new people can participate. God forbid we just had multiple alliance raid tiers available from the same event at once or something.
And for people talking about aether memes, lmao, the last time I let someone drag me to aether for an alliance raid queue we sat there for 40 minutes before giving up and queuing it on crystal instead. It was dun scaith, and requeuing it on crystal got us inside in 16 minutes. There's no denying that Aether's PF scene is just plain superior but for DF queues the speed is just a toss-up bro.

In any case I love queuing weird alliance raids outright and dragging people in through the roulettes. Sometimes I'll queue ridorana, orbonne, copied tower, puppets bunker, and dun scaith and then just alt tab for 30 minutes until one of them pops. Once we spawn in, there's always one (or more) people who leave immediately followed by several people sounding happy af that they got something fun in their roulettes, or saying stuff like "finally this popped" because they'd been queuing it for hours. Hours.

SE needs to stop pumping up CT, jesus christ.

The only rationale I can think of for including Crystal Tower raids in the Moogle event is to help the influx of Xbox sprouts on Materia and Dynamis progress the MSQ since they won't know how to DC travel, Materia can't DC travel, and free trial players can't form PF groups.
I doubt it's helping on Dynamis since most people there are probably traveling away to grind tomestones but maybe it's working out for Materia?

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The only rationale I can think of for including Crystal Tower raids in the Moogle event is to help the influx of Xbox sprouts on Materia and Dynamis progress the MSQ since they won't know how to DC travel, Materia can't DC travel, and free trial players can't form PF groups.
I doubt it's helping on Dynamis since most people there are probably traveling away to grind tomestones but maybe it's working out for Materia?

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Even dynamis and materia never needed help popping CT

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Y'know , even though they're alliance raids I can get behind that idea since they're mandatory for MSQ now

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Main issue with moving them to MSQ roulette is that they'd almost never pop there since there are already 3 4-person duties in the pool that would pop before MSQ can. I think the only roulette that has duties with different participant counts is guildhests and that's why the very final one is so damn rate to pop.

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Friday evening, with two of us as healers.

Was taking an alt through the Ivalice series the other day to unlock the hairstyle and first raid took about an hour to pop, second 95 minutes, and third took almost 110 minutes to pop if I recall correctly.

It's a shame it's not part of the mogtomes event, hopefully its at least in the second part.

Honestly, what was the actual issue of not including CT as one of the mandatory unlockables anyway? If I remember correctly, what it does to people playing in ShB was they didn’t get to pick two specific dialogue choices that implies our WoL recognize G’raha…

If so… why is that even a problem…? Is this also the same reason they use to cut corner like not giving us trials series in EW & just sell them as MSQ-content? Lol

I think it’s elpis that is the problem


You absolutely need a valid connection to the crystal tower established with graha in the raid questline to make elpis work

I guess they could have rewritten the lead up to elpis for people who met graha as the exarch rather than during crystal tower but I’m assuming they found it easier to just force you to do CT so they didn’t have two different story lines

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Honestly, what was the actual issue of not including CT as one of the mandatory unlockables anyway? If I remember correctly, what it does to people playing in ShB was they didn’t get to pick two specific dialogue choices that implies our WoL recognize G’raha…

If so… why is that even a problem…? Is this also the same reason they use to cut corner like not giving us trials series in EW & just sell them as MSQ-content? Lol

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The tower being made of white aetheryte or whatever is set up in ct. There’s also e9, which is a pretty impressive coincidence otherwise. Not really anything else, and they could just as easily have put a quick “for more context why not try the a real reborn alliance raid series” pop up if you’re not flagged as having it done when starting shadowbringers.