[dev1028] Need roaming monsters that aggro

The world is far too peacefull, we need more dangers when traveling around.

Right now you can walk almost anywhere and there's nothing but goats, rats, etc..
the game is currently a walk in the park, seems pointless to have adventurers around.

Beastmen and other aggresive mobs should be added all over the place including on the roads, and lots of them. At night there should be undead all over.

How to make it so it's fun:

-Have Beastmen drop a form of currency that is needed for some kind of event bronze/silver/gold for example. This will provide a reason for adventurers to hunt them down as they travel the map. Maybe even have them drop chests full of shards.

-At nightime should have more undead running around and how about zombies that can "pop" out from the ground like worms used to do in ffxi. Have different music during nightime to make a more "spooky" feeling. Sould also drop unique items.

Add Lore to it: (reason for them existing in the world)

- Zombies can be fallen soldiers from there respected cities.
- Beastmen (story here)

Let's make Eorzea a fun and exciting place to be in! :D

Other than the occasional sneaky Antling Digger griefing unsuspecting noobs, I agree the mob distribution is very monotonous. Entire beautiful zones filled with squirrels make me never want to travel back again. Very few areas are even worth farming due to their localized concentration of worthwhile mobs.

For instance, not including leves there are six map sqares around the Muy-Tun Cellar entrance that I will farm out of the entire zone of the Black Shroud. Obvious example, but I hope it conveys the point. As you mention the zones being full of rats and squirrels are quite pointless.

Roaming aggressive monster packs would be interesting, and your other suggestion to add undead mob spawns during night cycles reminds me of Aion. Both could work well to spice up the world and give reason for travelling to various areas.

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Originally Posted by Heaven

Right now you can walk almost anywhere and there's nothing but goats, rats, etc..
the game is currently a walk in the park, seems pointless to have adventurers around.

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I'm guessing you haven't been out of the main 3 zones yet (La Noscea, Thanalan & Black Shroud). Walking around Coerthas or Mor Dhona there's a great many aggressive monsters running around that will mess you up. Almost died a few times running through for one story quest.

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Originally Posted by Heaven

-Have Beastmen drop a form of currency that is needed for some kind of event bronze/silver/gold for example. This will provide a reason for adventurers to hunt them down as they travel the map. Maybe even have them drop chests full of shards.

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They already drop a special form of currency, there's just not a use for it yet.

Also there are Wights that spawn in some areas at night, they're just few and far between.

I can travel from Limsa to Ishgard gates and not get attacked by anything, I would like a little more excitment/challenge on the journey.

They are already planing to add roaming beatsmen, my suggestion is to add some on the roads and also add more undead at night, LOTS of them :D

If you stick near the road and the areas around whatever camps you normally go to, then yes, it is pretty peaceful. However, danger is just around the corner. For example, travel up a bit from R20 Camp Tranquil to Silent Arbor and you will find high rank aggro mobs galore. Or venture into Tam-Tara which is just a short ways from town.

Actually, north-ish of Camp Emerald Moss used to be pretty dangerous. Aggro mobs everywhere, and at R10 that sure was exciting and dangerous seeming to me! xD But there is less aggro in that area now, probably for the sake of gatherers. I may have loved battling there, but I sure didn't like having wolves hanging around my mining nodes.

And there is a lot of aggro at Nanawa and around Broken Water, which to be honest is really annoying. I get tired of killing a bunch of mites during my leves, and solo/at lower ranks the aggro makes some leves extremely difficult to complete.

I do agree though, we could use a little more excitement in the mob department.

I'm personally hoping when the beastmen and Garlean story progresses they will add beastmen and Garlean army members everywhere.

An improvement is rly needed, don't enjoy killing rats and weeds past lvl 5ish... Also the night cycles does not necessarily need to be undeads, the simple fact of adding random nocturnal aggressive mobs would already be good.

I agree, we need more danger in the world!

I remember getting eaten by ants on the way from Gridania to Uldah after exiting the pass.
Caused so much grief they moved the ants underground...lol

Maybe soon we will even have imperial soldiers wandering around (in groups)

100% Agreed! I would Definitely want Terrifying Nights in some Areas! Nocturnal Mobs, Aggro Ones. Day and Nocturnal Mobs should be added! Some New Night Battle Themes and Field Themes sounds nice too

More zombies needed at night time too :)

ohh, i like the Night battle themes. also nocturnal only mobs also.
post 20 or 30 areas, i have run into aggro heavy areas. so, theres areas are out there. staying on the main road, you dont get too much of it. main road danger could be argued in so many ways.

all in all, i am defintely for the addition of nocturnal only mobs, and "more" danger in the realms of Eorzea. seems to make sense, the danger would increase the farther you are from cities/towns

Go to aetherial gates, usually the areas around higher level aetherial gates or unimplemented aetherial gates have monsters that beat your ass. One shot for 1500 damage, I've been one shotted for 3000 damage before :/

I'm going to have to disagree with aggro mobs on the road. If I have somewhere I want to get to, I want to get there. If I want to fight, I'll run off the road and attack something. There should be somewhere we can be reasonably safe.

Off road, I wouldn't personally want it. I'm happy not having to dodge monsters here, and when I'm fighting something several levels over me, the last thing I need is an aggro walking up. The games current lag makes it unlikely I would survive. However, if a majority voted in favor of this, it wouldn't be a gamebreaker for me.

Nocturnal creatures sound interesting. I'm not into undead though. Never really understood people's fascination with it. :p

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Originally Posted by Chezen

I'm going to have to disagree with aggro mobs on the road. If I have somewhere I want to get to, I want to get there. If I want to fight, I'll run off the road and attack something. There should be somewhere we can be reasonably safe.

Off road, I wouldn't personally want it. I'm happy not having to dodge monsters here, and when I'm fighting something several levels over me, the last thing I need is an aggro walking up. The games current lag makes it unlikely I would survive. However, if a majority voted in favor of this, it wouldn't be a gamebreaker for me.

Nocturnal creatures sound interesting. I'm not into undead though. Never really understood people's fascination with it. :p

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No, the world should be dangerous and scary. You should have to avoid aggro and watch where you're going, not autorun and be alt tabbed the entire time because the entire world is filled with passive mobs.

Adding aggressive aggroing mobs wouldn't really do much, unless the mobs are +30 to the level intended for the zone they're in, because leashing in this game is stupid and you can just autorun for 15 seconds then the mob stops following you. So, it's almost impossible to actually make the world "scary" like in FF11 without completely editing the STUPID leashing system in place(Which needs completely removed imo, you can't even kite in this game, taking away a lot of skill in playing a mage or archer). I have all these kiting abilities yet NEVER use them because there's no point as an archer, lol.

I miss how in FFXI you were always looking around, always scared of aggroing stuff. Even in the newbie level1-10 zone you were scared of aggroing quadavs/yagudos/orcs/goblins. In this game there's no fear, there's no danger, there's no paying attention. This games actually trains you to NOT pay attention, it's horrible.

Going to valkurm for the first time in FFXI, and the journey back was SOOO scary for me. Even the times after, I was so scared I was going to accidently aggro a goblin or quadav, and constantly freaking out. I also miss "jumping" everytime I heard the ice spikes sound, thinking a skeleton was aggroing me. Can this game have some fear and danger please? I don't like playing a carebear MMO.

Edit: Also do mobs even link in this game? I should be careful of that what I attack, afraid of linking mobs too. I miss that, accidently linking mobs and bam, dying. Why is this game so passive? >_<

It's just my opinion. I've been "paying attention" on every mmo I ever played. I'm happy for the break. I'm never scared running through aggro mobs anymore, I've gotten too good at dodging them. The ones I can't get through are just slowing me down from where I want to go, and tend to annoy me, not excite me.

On occasion, I'll get several at a time (on another mmo) on me at once, which is fun, but I can aggro them myself to do that too.

Like I said, it's not a game breaker.

I disagree There's no reason that the areas bordering civilization should be dangerous. Once you move away, sure. But it doesn't make sense for danger to be that close. I'm quite enjoying finally playing an MMO that doesn't have me aggroing a monster every ten steps.

Given how often I run places -- to camp, to the ferry, to a quest location, etc -- I don't like the idea of aggro mobs all over the roads. I have no problem dodging the odd antling or roselet, but running places is kind of a pain already, no need to make it even more time consuming.

When I go exploring, I find so many areas that are dangerous and full of aggro mobs, but they are always empty. And many of them would be excellent grind spots. I think if people didn't stick to the same basic camps and routes, there'd be fewer complaints about the lack of aggro (but where people have reason to go is another can of worms, I suppose!).

I love the idea of having many more aggro mobs. Does anyone else remember how epic the run to Jueno was from your respective city? We need more of that not knowing if your going to make it feeling in this game, it just seems to lack that part for me. Also where's sneak/invis plzz.

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