Should the Xbox Beta lock all of the non new servers for character creation?

Was wondering how many people feel the xbox beta should lock character creation to only the new servers? Seems to be a reoccurring topic on the new servers.

Regardless of the Xbox servers.
It should of been done ages ago.
Sure the cynical may view it as creating a market for World/DC Transfers.

But in all threads covering Materia and Dynamis, it's always been a option.

Sadly whether honest or a joke.

While a kinda final option.

The Numbers of congestion where never enough for them to push the lock everything button yet.

And likely they had cloud test for the potential case of launch day congestion (only) safety net.

We will have to see what happens with DT.

I know some of us will likely make a MediaTour, or Launch Day Issues Bingo.

But as for Xbox, we'll just need to see how the beta runs.
and then see how the servers will deal with them.

The problem with this is half of Dynamis players or more don't stay on their own DC. This would essentially put new players at the mercy of whoever is left on the server currently, which includes learning to either DC travel elsewhere for content, or putting up a PF for a vast majority of later MSQ content.

They'd have to fully lock the servers down for everyone, and they won't do that.

Well for beta testing they should use beta servers.
But once it's out of beta they should be welcomed to any server with open arms.

As a follow up question, do you think locking the servers and DC visits would break the experience for the community on the new Data centers?

At this point is really the only possible solution is to just open everything and make everything cross realm like MB's and queues?

Reason I brought this up cause I made an alt on the new servers and told myself I would not transfer off. Sadly content like ocean fishing does not even pop without going through the effort to try and set up a PF for it.

That is kind of sad.

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Originally Posted by Bobby66

As a follow up question, do you think locking the servers and DC visits would break the experience for the community on the new Data centers?

At this point is really the only possible solution is to just open everything and make everything cross realm like MB's and queues?

Reason I brought this up cause I made an alt on the new servers and told myself I would not transfer off. Sadly content like ocean fishing does not even pop without going through the effort to try and set up a PF for it.

That is kind of sad.

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Ocean Fishing will always pop regardless of how many players there are. If you can't get a full boat then you have to wait 15 minutes or so though. The reason for the PF is because certain people on Dynamis want to casually go after the Ocean Fishing achievements, and they want as many people on board as possible.

Anyways, they should hopefully be locking down DCs for early DT release. I believe Yoshi stated that in an interview somewhere, which I'm very grateful for considering all know that otherwise Dynamis would actually end up with the worse queues possible as everyone decides that they're a big brain genius and tries to travel over for faster queues.

Ocean fishing will always pop you can be solo in there, you just gotta wait for the hard limit of 15 minutes past the hour.
But I understand what you're saying. It's getting harder and harder to find groups on Primal too.

Apologize was unaware of the 15 minute thing, my impatient self normally does not wait that long before I go to PF.

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

Ocean Fishing will always pop regardless of how many players there are. If you can't get a full boat then you have to wait 15 minutes or so though. The reason for the PF is because certain people on Dynamis want to casually go after the Ocean Fishing achievements, and they want as many people on board as possible.

Anyways, they should hopefully be locking down DCs for early DT release. I believe Yoshi stated that in an interview somewhere, which I'm very grateful for considering all know that otherwise Dynamis would actually end up with the worse queues possible as everyone decides that they're a big brain genius and tries to travel over for faster queues.

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Oh that is good to hear, hopefully it works out and people just don't transfer off the server before release before the lockdown.

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Originally Posted by Bobby66

Apologize was unaware of the 15 minute thing, my impatient self normally does not wait that long before I go to PF.

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Just queue at xx.14 minutes. No waiting: the boat will always depart at xx.15 even if there were other departures before. And the chance to get spectrals is adjusted to the number of people on board.

why? we didnt for mac, ps5, steam/windows. Big scary xbox wont make any difference to the other platforms.

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Originally Posted by PaulH

why? we didnt for max, ps5, steam/windows. Big scary xbox wont make any difference to the other platforms.

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Less about the platforms, and more so about funneling people to the new worlds.

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Originally Posted by Bobby66

At this point is really the only possible solution is to just open everything and make everything cross realm like MB's and queues?

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SE's already working on regional DF/PF, they're still trying to figure out what to do with JP and to decide if they're gonna use cloud servers or not.

Considering the PS4/5 version already exists, the game is known to work on consoles so I don't think there's a reason to split them off into their own corner.

But if they want to direct new new players towards more emptier servers, they could always increase the bonuses they get for it.

IMO,

They should look at reworking the bonuses you get, and seeing how they can actually incentivize people to play on these new servers on their own accord.

I think forcing people into going into specific servers won't really lead to a desired result.

They should have been funneling new characters and new players to the new servers all along, and I hope they do with the Xbox beta. I hear the comment in other threads that “Xbox players aren’t going to want to be on a dead DC,” but if you put them all there, it won’t be dead anymore!

I really wish that we could get out of this mentality in NA that certain DCs are for certain things. DC travel is great for playing with friends who have characters on other worlds, but it shouldn’t be expected that “Oh you want to do this raid? Go to Aether.” It’s become so common now that everyone just accepts it as matter-of-fact.

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

IMO,

They should look at reworking the bonuses you get, and seeing how they can actually incentivize people to play on these new servers on their own accord.

I think forcing people into going into specific servers won't really lead to a desired result.

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This definitely won't work for a lot of reasons, but I also feel that Dynamis is just doomed.

The known population circumstances are one half of the issue, but people on Dynamis are also incredibly cliquish. This is a MMO, and you can't blame everything on the game itself. Community is a big part of what keeps people around and interested.

Meanwhile the main Dynamis discord has had issues with retention, we've had drama regarding people disagreeing about basic human rights, and we have two major groomers/creepers in there that run around freely. You can scoff at this, but this isn't just a server for community purposes. You want to do the latest alliance raid on your home server, albeit at a few selectively scheduled times? You want to do Eureka/Bozja content on Dyna, again with selective times? The list goes on, but this is to say that the server is more than just community but also a valid resource for group finding and completing content on the DC itself.

I’ve been waiting 11 years for anyone I know irl to join me and you want to block them from joining a full server? Pfftt… those server transfers better be free for a month then.

At this point I am seriously thinking about leaving Dynamis. I HATE to leave because I mainly moved so I could have a house, but I rather come back to Aether and have a cute apartment than be in this dead wasteland. There's no sense of community at all. I miss that.

SE need to provide free word transfers for peoples that move to dynamis and regret it. Now I'm stuck on this dead DC and having to world transfer for content is very annoying with no access to retainer bell.

Hoping the new expac will fix this issue but its very unlikely unless they allow cross dc party matching.

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Originally Posted by Bobby66

Was wondering how many people feel the xbox beta should lock character creation to only the new servers? Seems to be a reoccurring topic on the new servers.

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They honestly should funnel them into dynamis to try to liven that up

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Originally Posted by Canadane

Well for beta testing they should use beta servers.
But once it's out of beta they should be welcomed to any server with open arms.

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Aye! Aye!

This is a great opportunity for FCs to recruit new faces as well. It’s bit shattering to see certain FCs (on congested servers) that are long inactive or just has less players.

When they're in beta, yeah, they should be on beta servers. But it's not very welcoming of us to shunt them all off into the same corner. I welcome them to come to my server if they can find a time they can make a character here.

Yeah this is my point but I guess many are not I'm favor of it.

If they don't funnel people to the new servers they will stay dead.

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Originally Posted by Bobby66

Yeah this is my point but I guess many are not I'm favor of it.

If they don't funnel people to the new servers they will stay dead.

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I think just by virtue of other servers getting full will help with that.