Another 500$ emotes, just what we needed

Thanks square enix for releasing another unobtainable 500$ emote. We appreciate you milking your playerbase to the bone, as usual !!!!!!

maybe if this community had a little bit of self control they wouldnt sell an emote for that price ?

I think the funnier thing is like the omega emote just no one is going to be using it, so people buying it for the emote are just going to be too embarassed to use it. Like, in my entire time playing I've seen maybe 2 or 3 people use the omega emote, hell I rarely see people use some of the emotes you CAN buy in the cash shop.

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Originally Posted by maximesan514

Thanks square enix for releasing another unobtainable 500$ emote. We appreciate you milking your playerbase to the bone, as usual !!!!!!

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Just don’t buy it. No one is forcing you.

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Originally Posted by DisasterGayofCrisis

I think the funnier thing is like the omega emote just no one is going to be using it, so people buying it for the emote are just going to be too embarassed to use it. Like, in my entire time playing I've seen maybe 2 or 3 people use the omega emote, hell I rarely see people use some of the emotes you CAN buy in the cash shop.

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Honestly I just forget about the emotes most of the time. I don't have them on hotbars and I don't really use the emote menu that often.

Plus, randomly using them is obnoxious.

I gotta hurry and get here before someone says just don't bu- Dang.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

maybe if this community had a little bit of self control they wouldnt sell an emote for that price ?

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In a world full of gamers with common sense, sure. However, this is the XIV community we're talking about here. Nothing we do on an individual level matters when the community's full of people who will buy anything SE churns out no matter how stupid, worthless, and overpriced it is.

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Originally Posted by Toutatis

Just don’t buy it. No one is forcing you.

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That's the best part. They sold out so fast (within minutes), that OP couldn't buy it even if he wanted to. People are scalping the crap out of these codes in a few months. Please look forward to it!

I hope more threads about this gets made. Just drown the front page in complaints about this crap. It's well earned. I wish I could run a live service game on a subscription model, put out 3 meaningful updates a year, and then nickel and dime people in a cash shop that would make f2p korean mmos blush. Can you imagine? It's wild that XIV doesn't get more funding. It's basically a cash cow.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

maybe if this community had a little bit of self control they wouldnt sell an emote for that price ?

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To be fair, as much as I agree I also realize that it doesn't matter.

Even if 95% of the community had this level of common sense, as long as there's enough people out there willing to profit these moronic scam ventures then SE will continue to put them forward.

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

In a world full of gamers with common sense, sure. However, this is the XIV community we're talking about here. Nothing we do on an individual level matters when the community's full of people who will buy anything SE churns out no matter how stupid, worthless, and overpriced it is.



That's the best part. They sold out so fast (within minutes), that OP couldn't buy it even if he wanted to. People are scalping the crap out of these codes in a few months. Please look forward to it!

I hope more threads about this gets made. Just drown the front page in complaints about this crap. It's well earned. I wish I could run a live service game on a subscription model, put out 3 meaningful updates a year, and then nickel and dime people in a cash shop that would make f2p korean mmos blush. Can you imagine? It's wild that XIV doesn't get more funding. It's basically a cash cow.

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Implying it's just the xiv community that does this is disingenuous. You can say that about anything. Sports fans buying tickets at exorbitant prices, people buying shoes at crazy prices.

Welcome to free market capitalism.

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

In a world full of gamers with common sense, sure. However, this is the XIV community we're talking about here. Nothing we do on an individual level matters when the community's full of people who will buy anything SE churns out no matter how stupid, worthless, and overpriced it is.



That's the best part. They sold out so fast (within minutes), that OP couldn't buy it even if he wanted to. People are scalping the crap out of these codes in a few months. Please look forward to it!

I hope more threads about this gets made. Just drown the front page in complaints about this crap. It's well earned. I wish I could run a live service game on a subscription model, put out 3 meaningful updates a year, and then nickel and dime people in a cash shop that would make f2p korean mmos blush. Can you imagine? It's wild that XIV doesn't get more funding. It's basically a cash cow.

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Oh I agree with you lmao, I've always said it, they could sell a water bottle with a G'raha Tia image on it and sell it for hundrends and still manage to sell it even tho it'd be tap water in it

anything this company sells goes no matter the price, it's actually pretty pathetic how people have absolutely 0 self control in this game, and yes "it's their money" but that doesnt mean i cant criticize their choices.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Implying it's just the xiv community that does this is disingenuous. You can say that about anything. Sports fans buying tickets at exorbitant prices, people buying shoes at crazy prices.

Welcome to free market capitalism.

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FFXIV and its community is easily one of the worst at that tbh, honestly.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Honestly I just forget about the emotes most of the time. I don't have them on hotbars and I don't really use the emote menu that often.

Plus, randomly using them is obnoxious.

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On the other hand, this is a tempting opportunity for me to use the "facepalm" emote that I just happen to have on one of my hotbars.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Implying it's just the xiv community that does this is disingenuous. You can say that about anything. Sports fans buying tickets at exorbitant prices, people buying shoes at crazy prices.

Welcome to free market capitalism.

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Yeah this is true in a lot of areas in life. But we're in the XIV forums, talking about XIV's buying habits, so I'm going to be talking about XIV today.
It's funny, because I can 100% be hella disingenuous when I want to be, but this isn't an area where I was trying to go that route. I'm legit just saying, in other areas of consumer spending, being a conscientious consumer can sometimes work. But in certain industries (gaming in general, let's be real) it's just a lost cause. XIV is one of them.

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Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas

On the other hand, this is a tempting opportunity for me to use the "facepalm" emote that I just happen to have on one of my hotbars.

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Same tbh. I actually got a look at that emote the other day and it's extra obnoxious. Legit reminds me of the over the top gaudy stuff I'd see in the old Korean MMOs I used to play. "Look at me!! I spent a stupid amount of moneeeey!!!" dumb as hell tbh.

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Originally Posted by maximesan514

Thanks square enix for releasing another unobtainable 500$ emote. We appreciate you milking your playerbase to the bone, as usual !!!!!!

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Nobody forces you to buy it.



Cheers

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

I hope more threads about this gets made. Just drown the front page in complaints about this crap. It's well earned. I wish I could run a live service game on a subscription model, put out 3 meaningful updates a year, and then nickel and dime people in a cash shop that would make f2p korean mmos blush. Can you imagine? It's wild that XIV doesn't get more funding. It's basically a cash cow.

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They could sell it for $1k for all I care. It’s a non essential and even useless item that doesn’t affect gameplay and that can’t be resold once the code is used.

If people are stupid enough to buy it that’s on them. If it doesn’t affect their budget, they are indulging as they would with other things. Their choice. If someone can’t afford it but still buys it, they need to learn to manage their money and show self restraint. This is no different to some show tickets, designer stuff made with cheap materials and logos slapped over them (there’s a lot of that today…several have developed a mass market and masses buy overpriced items just for the name and no longer for quality or make), etc.

People just need to learn that they can’t have everything in life and live with it.

I cannot imagine anything I would pay any game company $500 for.. period.

its clearly obvious that most of us were not who that merchandise was aimed at for a target demographic.

its an emote, there is not any purchased emote needed anywhere in the game. so if someone wants to spend their money on it, its their call. its not something I ever actually expect to see much of in game lol

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Originally Posted by Toutatis

They could sell it for $1k for all I care. It’s a non essential and even useless item that doesn’t affect gameplay and that can’t resell once the code is used.

If people are stupid enough to buy it that’s on them. If it doesn’t affect their budget, they are indulging as they would with other things. Their choice. If someone can’t afford it but still buys it, they need to learn to manage their money and show self restraint. This is no different to some show tickets, designer stuff made with cheap materials and logos slapped over them (there’s a lot of that today…several have developed a mass market and masses buy overpriced items just for the name and no longer for quality), etc.

People just need to learn that they can’t have everything in life and live with it.

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It's just the principle of the matter. A game that's buy to play + subscription shouldn't have any content locked behind a paywall imo, especially not one so steep. But if I'm being real, it's not surprising. This is where we are now. Because for years and years and years, long before XIV was even a concept, people saw this writing on the wall and bought into it anyway.
Idk why I even reply to these threads, like none of it matters anyway. It's just depressing that this is where we are now. You can basically triple dip on your monetization setup and then have a giga-whale option and it still sells out in minutes. I hate the modern gaming industry.

Why would anyone buy a statue for the emote alone? And why should we care about the whale's spending habits, when it's clear they won't really stop buying overpriced merchandise anyways, regardless of the public view on such market practice?

As PT Barnum once said, "There's a sucker born every minute."

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

maybe if this community had a little bit of self control they wouldnt sell an emote for that price ?

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I would buy the emotes off the mog station for $10 but I just can't afford these statues let alone with shipping too. It's getting rather depressing.

Also maybe if SE made a LOT MORE of them then the price wouldn't be as high. SE would rather have a very limited amount made which drives up cost.

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Originally Posted by Toutatis

They could sell it for $1k for all I care. It’s a non essential and even useless item that doesn’t affect gameplay and that can’t be resold once the code is used.

If people are stupid enough to buy it that’s on them. If it doesn’t affect their budget, they are indulging as they would with other things. Their choice. If someone can’t afford it but still buys it, they need to learn to manage their money and show self restraint. This is no different to some show tickets, designer stuff made with cheap materials and logos slapped over them (there’s a lot of that today…several have developed a mass market and masses buy overpriced items just for the name and no longer for quality or make), etc.

People just need to learn that they can’t have everything in life and live with it.

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You have at least 4 mounts from the cash shop.

I'm not sure you have room to talk lol. Some of those mounts were quite expensive.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

You have at least 4 mounts from the cash shop.

I'm not sure you have room to talk lol. Some of those mounts were quite expensive.

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So? The most expensive one was 10x less than that statuette but that’s irrelevant.

2 of those were birthday gifts. The Omega suit was a gift too. 1 mount is for group activities and one reminds me of my dad and allows me to carry a friend. It’s my choice and I can afford it. It’s essentially pocket money for me. I don’t blame SE for my choices. I wouldn’t buy a $400 emote nor a $400 mount although I could afford it too. I think it stupid to buy a commercial statuette that has no artistic value for an emote that has little to no use but if someone wants it, their choice. If someone buys it and it puts a hole in their budget, then they need to learn to be responsible with their money. Not SE’s fault if someone feels the need to buy everything. We’re not talking about a basic food item.

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Originally Posted by Larirawiel

Nobody forces you to buy it.

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For the record, I would never in my life buy an emote thats disguise as a cheap figure. Square enix just milk its community over and over and over, the second it was announced it was sold out. I just think its sad that square enix milk the wage slave this much. Feels like they put more work into cheap product than the game itself. Its just plain sad but keep defending multi billions company.

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

It's just the principle of the matter. A game that's buy to play + subscription shouldn't have any content locked behind a paywall imo, especially not one so steep.

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Which is a very flawed principle because it doesn't make sense. And this applies to everything, not just a subbed-mmo. People use the same argument everywhere, even for single players games.

I am someone who had never bought a single cosmetic item from the mogstation, but I have never any problem its existence. The flaw with your principal is you forget a simple thing: if the store doesn't exist as a revenue stream, those items won't exist to begin with. You probably think the alternative to this would be "everyone get it for free", but that's just fantasy. Realistically the alternative would be "well nobody gonna get it 'cause it won't be created in the first place". It would be another thing if SE release a new raid, but give no gears and say well you have to pay $5 to unlock it ... then your principle can apply.

Think about it, whole expansion, I have completed all of the tribe quest ( pain ) and what I got today was an emote that makes my character do this cringe silly dance.. meanwhile the dude that buy this 500$ " figure " gets this badass over the top emote. Why is it that all the good stuff are paywalled in a game where I have spent over 1000's only on subscriptions fee??? They laughin at us and everybody worship them...

Disappointing, but not surprising. I wish there was a way to unlock the paid content in game. Even if it was barred behind ridiculous grinds. (Like running The Mothercrystal EX and Zodiark EX 10,000 times in a row each or something)

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Originally Posted by Raven2014

if the store doesn't exist as a revenue stream, those items won't exist to begin with. You probably think the alternative to this would be "everyone get it for free", but that's just fantasy. Realistically the alternative would be "well nobody gonna get it 'cause it won't be created in the first place". It would be another thing if SE release a new raid, but give no gears and say well you have to pay $5 to unlock it ... then your principle can apply.

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That would certainly apply in a game that gets its revenue solely from the cash shop, but Final Fantasy XIV gets its revenue from people buying the base game, from people buying the expansions, and from every player dropping 15 dollars every month to continue to play it even when there's nothing new being added. I think it's reasonable to assume that in a monetization system like this, you don't need 400 dollar emotes, 40 dollar mounts, and 25 dollar outfits in order to produce more 400 dollar emotes, 40 dollar mounts, and 25 dollar outfits. There's already revenue coming in from 3 other sources, after all.

You have to have something to do after that 30 min patch content.

I think it's great. I have no interest in buying it myself though I hope that Square Enix continues to make a lot of FFXIV merchandise so they can funnel the cash into other projects. If that's what it takes to get a remake or remaster of Final Fantasy IX, Final Fantasy Tactics, Vagrant Story and Parasite Eve? Then so be it.

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

I hope more threads about this gets made. Just drown the front page in complaints about this crap.

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I'm buying one because of this comment

Collectables is another side story... alot of things in the world is something people collect on either because limited editions or just gotten rare over time.

It is pointless to whine over that if you can acquire a collectable that you then further on get a game bonus out of it, that wont outlast the item, as the game would go down in favor of a new MMO before the actual item you paid will perish and decay.


It seem a bit like an invalid thread in some ways, and also I can live without that item.

I did buy the cookbook though and using it as well.

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Originally Posted by Battler-Ushiromiya

I'm buying one because of this comment

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Much as I'd love for you to waste money because of me, you can't; they've been sold out within minutes.

It'd be a nice bonus if the statue wasn't on par for quality with an Amiibo.

Wait sorry that's harsh =(


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Some of the Amiibos are pretty neat tbh.

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

That would certainly apply in a game that gets its revenue solely from the cash shop, but Final Fantasy XIV gets its revenue from people buying the base game, from people buying the expansions, and from every player dropping 15 dollars every month to continue to play it even when there's nothing new being added. I think it's reasonable to assume that in a monetization system like this, you don't need 400 dollar emotes, 40 dollar mounts, and 25 dollar outfits in order to produce more 400 dollar emotes, 40 dollar mounts, and 25 dollar outfits. There's already revenue coming in from 3 other sources, after all.

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Again, you're missing the point. Yes they don't need those additional revenue, but neither do you.

Those "payments" you made earn you all the gears/mount/items that are released in the game with each expansion and patch cycle. I would be curious if you think those are not enough, then what will be the limit according to your principle? It seems to me your principle doesn't have a limit, and because you paid for a sub you believe you are entitled to "EVERYTHING" created for the game. What if they made 100 items for the mogstore? What about 5 items? What about 0 items? Does your principle have a specific anchor value beside "give me everything? After all you did paid a fix-amount?

Yeah, they don't need to sell 40 dollar mounts or a 25 dollars outfit for that additional revenue. But without the additional revenue, there is no reason to create those additional item to begin with?