Hey, at least Pictomancer doesn't have a cringe name like "Viper"

I'm still mad about it. Why Viper? Where's the poison? Why didn't they call it Blademaster instead? It's the same as Sage, why Sage? He's not a Sage, he's a Medic, just call him Medic goddamn it (or Physician at least). At least Pictomancer makes sense. Imagine if its name was Cartooner or something.

I don't really see the issue with Viper, sure vipers are venomous but they're also typically ambush predators and strike pretty fast. Plus, the rotating fangs could be a nod to the transformable weapon Viper uses (and you'll have to pry the Wiper meme out of my cold, dead hands).

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Oberyn Martell from GoT series (books) is also called "The Red Viper of Dorne" or "The Snake".

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"Oberyn has been known as the "Red Viper" ever since by friends and foes alike, due to rumors that he fought the duel with a poisoned blade".
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When I saw the first trailer, the fighting style of the Viper job immediately reminded me of Pascal as Oberyn.

Maybe???

Viper makes sense though? Two swords, like a Vipers fangs. Very quick movements, like how a Viper strikes quickly?

It fits. You'll get used to it.

Why are Snakes/Vipers suddenly cringe? Vipers are extremely deadly animals.

People these days <.<

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Originally Posted by Vandso

I'm still mad about it. Why Viper? Where's the poison? Why didn't they call it Blademaster instead?

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Why dragoon, why not spearmaster, where's the dragon pet?
Why not axemaster, battlemaster?

Names like "Viper" bear an implication, it fits well a job sharing gear with a job like Ninja.

Finally, a "Blademaster" is someone who's an expert in using melee weapons such as sword, spear and axes. They're often teachers of knights.
Considering this, it would make even less sense to call Viper a "Blademaster".

It's defo more interesting-sounding than "blade master".
It's too early to tell if the job does or does not have poison DOTs.

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Originally Posted by tsuchii

It's defo more interesting-sounding than "blade master".
It's too early to tell if the job does or does not have poison DOTs.

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Considering how they keep dumbing down the combat I doubt it'll have poison dots.

Remember how much buffs we had in 2.0 and 3.0? They started to remove since Stormblood.

honestly i like viper better than pictomancer.

but i hate *mancer* jobs n classes, like throw it at the end of what they do and it magically makes it an acceptable naming convention?

course i guess overall it can't be worse than just throwing words in front of other jobs, black mage white mage blue mage or holy knight rune knight ect.

i like the more unique names that implies things about them but isn't straight up a title with some word added to it.

It's just a Thief Class. It's modeled after Zidane Tribal. Would have preferred Rune Fencer or Mystic Knight over Viper. Viper makes me think of a Venomous Snake.

Hot take, I don't like either of them. But Viper looks interesting. Pictomancer looks dumb. But who knows?

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Originally Posted by Astrus

I don't really see the issue with Viper, sure vipers are venomous but they're also typically ambush predators and strike pretty fast. Plus, the rotating fangs could be a nod to the transformable weapon Viper uses (and you'll have to pry the Wiper meme out of my cold, dead hands).

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"I've come to Vipe your Vindows"

Should have called it Monkey since the weapon seems to be based of Zidane who had paired knives/daggers/shortswords along with what FF9 called "theif swords" which were the same weapon created when the 2 swords are combined.

When they say "people will complain about absolutely anything", this forum is a living proof of that, and this thread is an example lol.

Hrm hrm... "Dragoon"

If Dragoon isn't cringe, Viper isn't either.

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Hrm hrm... "Dragoon"

If Dragoon isn't cringe, Viper isn't either.

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Dragoon is an actual historical military unit. Viper isn't (unless you're counting fictional stuff because... G.I.Joe)

Square simply took the name and added a dragon theme to it.

These forums really will criticize everything won't they?

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Originally Posted by Astrus

I don't really see the issue with Viper, sure vipers are venomous but they're also typically ambush predators and strike pretty fast. Plus, the rotating fangs could be a nod to the transformable weapon Viper uses (and you'll have to pry the Wiper meme out of my cold, dead hands).

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"Wiper" will certainly be the more accurate name on launch, because that's what 95% of them will do to your group.

I don't think Viper is cringe name.

Viper is a cool name.

You're just looking for a reason to be mad.

Yeah I think the name Viper is kind of stupid, but I'm still gonna play it because I've been wanting a dual swordsman for a long time. :)

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

Viper makes sense though? Two swords, like a Vipers fangs. Very quick movements, like how a Viper strikes quickly?

It fits. You'll get used to it.

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Ninja has two blades and the Viper combines their blades so the Ninja is more a viper than the viper.

relm actually was a pictomancer in the status screen

a job that sort of tries to combine both of zidane's weapon types... actually not sure where viper fits in either. Suppose they assumed monkeyboy angel of death or genome didn't work

i will wait till the new content goes live and kick the tires on these new jobs to see how they play snd not bad mouth everything their doing.

Humble reminder that the name "Viper" is most likely based on the speed of the job + the hunter-like job background... not poison and not "two swords like snake fangs".

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Originally Posted by Vandso

I'm still mad about it. Why Viper? Where's the poison? Why didn't they call it Blademaster instead? It's the same as Sage, why Sage? He's not a Sage, he's a Medic, just call him Medic goddamn it (or Physician at least). At least Pictomancer makes sense. Imagine if its name was Cartooner or something.

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They didnt call it blademaster bc thats ugly as hell

I'm excited for Pictomancer regardless but what's wrong with Viper? Are we engagement farming without even getting paid for it?

bro this thread and post you made is cringe.


Im so sick and tired of this word btw. Anyone who unironically say it from now on is officially that word itself. Get a thesaurus.

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Originally Posted by Vandso

I'm still mad about it. Why Viper? Where's the poison? Why didn't they call it Blademaster instead? It's the same as Sage, why Sage? He's not a Sage, he's a Medic, just call him Medic goddamn it (or Physician at least). At least Pictomancer makes sense. Imagine if its name was Cartooner or something.

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You have seen 3 abilities and are already complaining? How bout you wait till they actually release a job trailer before you start the river of negativity.

It might have a poison stance toggle or interrupt or something like how Ninja used to. RIP Wasp and Viper Venom from Rogue. You are always missed Q.Q

But perhaps they're relating it more to how all Vipers are nocturnal and have special eyes that can see in a variety of light levels. Another job that works in darkmans, bene cove?

But more than that, it's just another Thief reference. In FFXI THF's best dagger WS was Viper Bite from about level 33 til level 61 or so. This is what Viper Venom on Rogue took its reference from, its first weaponskill being Wasp Sting.

Apparently someone liked the word and was like, "Another, flashier Thief? Let's call it Viper!"

Viper's a more interesting name, and I'm sure the lore will have it make sense. Blademaster? Boring. Generic. Might as well call it Slashy Fast Guy. At least then it'd be kinda funny.

I like simple names, not a fan of making names to try to make the job seem more interesting than it is. Warrior. Thief. White Mage. Black Mage. Pictomancer (eww). Viper (cringe).

I feel like Viper is an organizational name like Reaper. The group known as Vipers are assassins or something.

Either way they're both fine names. I have zero complaints. They could call viper the job of twin sword thingies and I probably still wouldn't really care that much.

Whenever people say Blademaster I just think of .hack

dont see a problem with it, its just a class name, i think the forums is just mad they didnt get the jobs they spent the last year telling us we wanted, even tho i would rather have a duel weild sword class over a pirate rip off sword and pistol class, and pictomancer seems way cooler then an earth bender.

sure its a bit edgy, and i can see how a lala enjoyer might not like edgy (might pop that over inflated head)