Why is "Report Cheating" still disabled in in-game Support Desk?

You can submit a report but I highly doubt that the report will actually reach anyone. Under "History" tab, you can trace the reports you have made in the past, but any report made with "Report Cheating" is not showing up, so I just assume the reports do not go through, or rather straight to the trash bin.

In the meanwhile, the very same player (with Best-in-slots and TOP weapon) is still farming fates 24/7 for bicolor gemstone vouchers since forever, not even worrying about getting suspended. Surely the gils earned will not be laundered for RMT, right? SE just decided to let these players roam free without any repercussion.

If you go through this...

1. Go to the Information tab.
2. Under "Frequently Asked Questions", click "GM Services Main Menu".
3. Click the second option.

It clarifies that they want it reported directly to the STF via the website instead.

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Originally Posted by HaHa_HeHe

You can submit a report but I highly doubt that the report will actually reach anyone. Under "History" tab, you can trace the reports you have made in the past, but any report made with "Report Cheating" is not showing up, so I just assume the reports do not go through, or rather straight to the trash bin.

In the meanwhile, the very same player (with Best-in-slots and TOP weapon) is still farming fates 24/7 for bicolor gemstone vouchers since forever, not even worrying about getting suspended. Surely the gils earned will not be laundered for RMT, right? SE just decided to let these players roam free without any repercussion.

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it's not that your concerns aren't valid but shouldnt you be out enjoying the game instead of malding over this? It's for your own good really.

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Originally Posted by HaHa_HeHe

You can submit a report but I highly doubt that the report will actually reach anyone. Under "History" tab, you can trace the reports you have made in the past, but any report made with "Report Cheating" is not showing up, so I just assume the reports do not go through, or rather straight to the trash bin.

In the meanwhile, the very same player (with Best-in-slots and TOP weapon) is still farming fates 24/7 for bicolor gemstone vouchers since forever, not even worrying about getting suspended. Surely the gils earned will not be laundered for RMT, right? SE just decided to let these players roam free without any repercussion.

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first world problems right there, someone farming fates

oh no the drama

the fly hacking lalas ? the mb bots ? the pvp cheaters ? Nah

The fates farmers ! that's what matters !

Cause those reports ususally go straight to their junk folder and that filled up ages ago

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Originally Posted by Ath192

it's not that your concerns aren't valid but shouldnt you be out enjoying the game instead of malding over this? It's for your own good really.

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I do enjoy playing the game, worry not.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

first world problems right there, someone farming fates

oh no the drama

the fly hacking lalas ? the mb bots ? the pvp cheaters ? Nah

The fates farmers ! that's what matters !

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Currency and economy are and will always a thing in any MMO.

SE has the power to stop this kind of thing from happening, but they choose not to. I am against any form of cheating. The flying lalas and mb bots are probably fully automated bots deployed by gold-selling platforms, and there are just too many of them. AFAIK, SE has been taking action against RMT activities. PVP cheaters? I will report too if I ever bump into one. Players like me play the game for the thrill of competition (partly), it hurts the engagement and enthusiasm when I see an active player who is not just some ordinary bot cheating. I am entitled to raise concern regarding this issue : )

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Originally Posted by HaHa_HeHe

You can submit a report but I highly doubt that the report will actually reach anyone. Under "History" tab, you can trace the reports you have made in the past, but any report made with "Report Cheating" is not showing up, so I just assume the reports do not go through, or rather straight to the trash bin.

In the meanwhile, the very same player (with Best-in-slots and TOP weapon) is still farming fates 24/7 for bicolor gemstone vouchers since forever, not even worrying about getting suspended. Surely the gils earned will not be laundered for RMT, right? SE just decided to let these players roam free without any repercussion.

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I'm sorry, I might be misunderstanding something here. You wish to report a player for cheating, because they're farming FATEs (playing the game?) for bicolour gemstone vouchers they can sell on MB? You have any evidence this player is selling their gil in exchange for real currency?

For that matter, do you even know they're selling the vouchers? How do you know they're not working toward the Fallen Angel Wings?

This game’s economy died long ago

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Originally Posted by Erzaa

I'm sorry, I might be misunderstanding something here. You wish to report a player for cheating, because they're farming FATEs (playing the game?) for bicolour gemstone vouchers they can sell on MB? You have any evidence this player is selling their gil in exchange for real currency?

For that matter, do you even know they're selling the vouchers? How do you know they're not working toward the Fallen Angel Wings?

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If they've been farming gemstones since the expansion release, they easily could have purchased the wings by now.

That's not to say that the player must be engaging in RMT. I know a few players that genuinely enjoy FATE farming though they focus on getting the achievement FATEs spawned across all Crystal worlds so others can get their achievements and rewards.

But there are also bot groups that are gemstone farming for RMT (evidently is more lucrative than Eureka bunny FATEs and treasure maps). If the player the OP is referring to is doing it as a part of a consistent group, I'd be suspicious too. If they're doing the FATEs solo, then it's unlikely it's anything nefarious. Going solo would be too slow for RMT purposes.

I'm always curious when people claim someone is doing an activity 24/7. Do they not sleep themselves so they can stalk their target's every move? It would be hard to get BIS gear and Ultimate Weapons if they're doing FATEs 24/7. You can't buy those with gemstones.

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Originally Posted by Sebazy

This game’s economy died long ago

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Consequence of poor gil sinks and ways to avoid what should be more effective gil sinks entirely.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

I'm always curious when people claim someone is doing an activity 24/7. Do they not sleep themselves so they can stalk their target's every move? It would be hard to get BIS gear and Ultimate Weapons if they're doing FATEs 24/7. You can't buy those with gemstones.

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All you need to do is visit the same nodes at different times of the day over a long period of time to start noticing names, I still gather nodes for expert crafts since they sell for a ton and I can bet a gil cap there I will find x and y gathering no matter what, on the dot, precisely arriving always at the same second the node spawns.
I can go in the morning, during lunch, after lunch, after dinner, middle of the night, never precisely at a specific timed node of the day, and there they are x and y doing their thing. I can stop doing this for a month and then go back and there is still gonna be x and y, still farming.
Or maybe it's all a huge coincidence and we are timeline shifting beings that always happen to sync and merge our closed timelike loop on the same nodes.

Should post a gif of them (name removed of course) to judge. Usually bots are pretty easy to spot based on their movements and mannerisms.

because square enix doesn't care about cheating. game is only worth playing if you're a cheater so they don't want to lose all their subbies

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Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa

because square enix doesn't care about cheating. game is only worth playing if you're a cheater so they don't want to lose all their subbies

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When does your sub run out?

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

When does your sub run out?

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No, no. Don't you understand. This is clearly constructive criticism.
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Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn

No, no. Don't you understand. This is clearly constructive criticism.
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I mean it's good for people to know what they are getting into: a cheater's haven. plenty of bad players love to cheat so it's good for them to know they have a place to belong.

It's easy to tell if they are a bot. They accept all party invites. I had a friend go invite bunch of bots into his party and took then into a dungeon and let them keep on dying. Later he got angry whisper from the owner of the bots. Then he reported them. Another give away they will be doing actions when is shows they are AFK.

I'm saying this as someone who's frustrated by this sort of thing as well but also wants to save you the mental bandwidth of trying: CBU3 doesn't care and you're wasting your time even trying to notify them. I watched the same guy casually bot around an open world spot I used to frequent. He did this for months. Probably still does. I left, so idk. There's a small town of lalafell bots under Limsa on just about every world. In Ul'dah when Shadowbringers launched, there were bots just standing in piles at every town exit, blocked from exiting by congestion. Dozens of default male midlanders with gibberish names just standing in piles of their copies for hours with 0 GM intervention. There's apparently some guy who's well known in the pvp community for just openly cheating in matches. Everyone knows his name and he's been doing it for years. Still here. Some guy made a thread here on these forums with nothing but links to botting websites so interested players could purchase their very own botting services and it stayed up for nearly two days even though I reported it the moment it appeared just to see how long it'd take. Hell, the people buying a bunch of gil aren't even afraid of their account being banned because they know 99.99% of the time the only one in danger is the mule account that handed over the money. CBU3 literally taking the least effective methods to stop RMT, almost like they don't mind it since they're all paying subs anyway. They don't care. So, just find a way to block it out if you can. Maybe one day the bots will cause enough people to unsubscribe for their presence to finally be considered a net loss for the game's revenue. On that day, we'll see them finally start setting up easy in game reporting systems, bans on both the RMT seller and the customer, and other super basic common sense approaches that any game run by people with common sense has implemented ages ago.

Also shout out to this thread's replies for once again getting hung up on some minor detail of the post instead of the far more important fact that if you wanna report RMT in game using the most intuitive option, it just tells you that you can't do it. The guy OP wants to report shouldn't even matter in this conversation. It's stupid that there isn't a decent right click->report function in this game. Even maplestory managed to do this and that game was cobbled together in like 2006.

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Originally Posted by hynaku

It's easy to tell if they are a bot. They accept all party invites. I had a friend go invite bunch of bots into his party and took then into a dungeon and let them keep on dying. Later he got angry whisper from the owner of the bots. Then he reported them. Another give away they will be doing actions when is shows they are AFK.

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All the ones I highly suspect are bots have do not disturb on at all times so you can't do anything.

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Originally Posted by ZiraZ

All the ones I highly suspect are bots have do not disturb on at all times so you can't do anything.

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yeah this is clearly a made up story imho

I wonder why they can't just direct the ingame cheating reports to the STF. I guess many thousands of reports made in hope for cheaters to get dealt with landed in the nirvana because of that. For what the ingame cheating report category even is for when it's not for dealing with cheaters?

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Originally Posted by hynaku

It's easy to tell if they are a bot. They accept all party invites. I had a friend go invite bunch of bots into his party and took then into a dungeon and let them keep on dying. Later he got angry whisper from the owner of the bots. Then he reported them. Another give away they will be doing actions when is shows they are AFK.

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You can usually tell by watching how they move around. Most bots will move along set paths and turn on a dime, looks really inhuman even to a casual observer.

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Originally Posted by Erzaa

I'm sorry, I might be misunderstanding something here. You wish to report a player for cheating, because they're farming FATEs (playing the game?) for bicolour gemstone vouchers they can sell on MB? You have any evidence this player is selling their gil in exchange for real currency?

For that matter, do you even know they're selling the vouchers? How do you know they're not working toward the Fallen Angel Wings?

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Two 'players' moving from one fate to another in the EXACT same manner, summoning mount at the same time, taking off at the same time, taking same path, etc. If I was to trade the player to bring up the trade window, he will just stand still, stop attacking, and won't even respond. Totally normal human behavior? Grinding the game in an automated bot-like manner is definitely not the definition of playing the game.

The vouchers is just purely my speculation. I could be wrong about they selling the vouchers for gils, of course I wouldnt be able to know how and what they spend their bicolor gemstones for.

You can be online at 2am (to make it very obvious) and search for players in certain areas and will find 50-150 very questionable names on a single server, all are "travelers". Maybe they are harder to track down for GM when they are not on their home world, idk why they do that. This will go on for weeks. It would be an easy thing to just ban them directly. They are not even lvl1-30 or anything, they can be quite highlvl.

If you ever wonder why your frame rate suddenly drops in cities or at mainstory locations more than it should. It is because bots are getting rendered under the map.

I think most of the weekly bans are actually just RMT advertisers. They are in the thousands, they are easy to ban from actual GM's because they use the chat.
Actual cheaters are in the single digits often. 0-15 on average per week. This is very low it seems. Which is STF area.

Greetings, HaHa_HeHe!

Thank you for bringing your concerns about the "Report Cheating" Support Desk function to our attention. Rest assured, reporting suspicious activity using either the Support Desk function or via the official FINAL FANTASY XIV Lodestone site are both viable options, since reports are still being received and carefully reviewed from both.

We apologize for any inconvenience and concerns that this may have caused you, and again, we appreciate your input and vigilance!

-FINAL FANTASY XIV Game Master Team