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I have been playing this game too long. I spent 1000's on subs fantasias and goodies in the store. I have lost every house lotto that has happened. I think enix has shit ideas with the lotto. Let us click the sign again at least we knew we had a shot! Enix sucks! I've unsubbed and packed any of my things up. Thanks for all the losses! /middle finger/ :mad:

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Originally Posted by TotallyToxic

Let us click the sign again at least we knew we had a shot!

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Right, because the only thing better than spending five seconds to enter a lottery and losing it is spending 18 hours spam-clicking a placard only to lose it to someone using an auto clicker. I'm not going to pretend the current system doesn't have its flaws, but its far more respectful of your time and far less bot friendly than the old one.

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Originally Posted by TotallyToxic

I think enix has shit ideas with the lotto.

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The lotto system was the community's idea and they got exactly what they asked for.

I wonder, where this mindset comes from and how to un-learn people this habit of "I've voluntarily spent money on you" and "you now owe me XZY for that".

If you're Dead set on obtaining house, here are some thoughts, in no particular order:

- first and foremost you're not bound to pay until end of service for owning pixels. Realize the freedom.
- Join FC which generously offers rooms or allows people to redesign their halls.
- Ask a friend to share house / or make friend with someone that has house but neglects it. There are also people offering their workshop houses to be habitated.
- move server depending on availability of houses, for better odds.
- make a solo fc and attempt for the fc house. there are small houses here and there.
- make alts on the same datacenter to improve the odds, if you're absolutely sure you want house at all costs.
- if not owning house after all that you claim you have done is a dealbreaker, unsubscribe.

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Originally Posted by CidHeiral

The lotto system was the community's idea and they got exactly what they asked for.

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This tbh

The actual playerbase asked for everyone to have a "fair" chance, it wasnt SE, SE only did what the playerbase asked for.

I don't understand this. Even on my server, there are houses open at the end of every lottery cycle. Are they mediums/larges or smalls in prime locations? No, but there are houses out there, I just looked.

I don't know what the population of your server is, a quick search shows 2023 pop on Coeurl as 630,723, my server is listed as 540,749. They're both congested.

Something is better than nothing.

26 loses in a row today i lost by to yes it broken .you have lots and lots of layets but crystal no houses old s no houses garmor no houses ect and it bs 43 year gammer and i never seen more bs then the houseing system sorry i had 100 max charters in wow from killing people not npc i was ranked

and i had 100 castles

i tryed with fc lol i lost by 2 today i lost by 2 or 3 17 times

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Originally Posted by JohncarterIx

and it bs 43 year gammer and i never seen more bs then the houseing system sorry i had 100 max charters in wow from killing people not npc i was ranked

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I used to think more people deserve houses but....maybe I was wrong.

Justifying completely different and irrelevant form of achievement as the reason why you feel deserving a house in, again, completely different IP, damn.

I'm sorry for the bad luck, man. If the repeated attempts fail, try something different.

This is one of those situations where it has to be asked: were you going after mediums and larges only, or were you entering even on the undesirable smalls so you would have a better chance?

Even Coeurl has had a few lottery periods where some small plots in the personal wards went without any bids. Since you said you "packed things up", it sounds like you had a house but kept losing when you tried to upgrade. Otherwise no packing would be needed.

I agree the system sucks but it has nothing to do with the lottery. It is what it has always been - a supply problem. Even if there are technically enough houses for each player on a world, there aren't enough of each size/location that players actually want to own.

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Originally Posted by Kyssa

I don't understand this. Even on my server, there are houses open at the end of every lottery cycle. Are they mediums/larges or smalls in prime locations? No, but there are houses out there, I just looked.

I don't know what the population of your server is, a quick search shows 2023 pop on Coeurl as 630,723, my server is listed as 540,749. They're both congested.

Something is better than nothing.

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Those numbers are for all time characters created, not active characters. The active character populations on the NA worlds are going to be closer to 30k-35k.

Crystal is considered the RP data center and so demand for housing is higher since many RPers feel having a house essential. Being raid-centric, Aether is going to have a larger percentage of players with no interest in housing and so there's less competition.

Congestion is something that SE sets based on online activity and character creation as opposed to overall population. I'm surprised that Coeurl has been Congested for several months now. Usually Mateus is the world that sits as Congested alongside Balmung.

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Originally Posted by MAJRIS

I used to think more people deserve houses but....maybe I was wrong.

Justifying completely different and irrelevant form of achievement as the reason why you feel deserving a house in, again, completely different IP, damn.

I'm sorry for the bad luck, man. If the repeated attempts fail, try something different.

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He's got a house. He's been complaining that he can't win the upgrade he wants.

I'm sorry but the lottery is better in every way. Placard clicking only ensured that cheaters or people actively harming themselves had a shot.

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Originally Posted by Impia

I'm sorry but the lottery is better in every way. Placard clicking only ensured that cheaters or people actively harming themselves had a shot.

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Louder for the people in the back.

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Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo

Louder for the people in the back.

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You mean just like now when you can multi bid on plots with multiple accounts, same for FC, instead of having to spam at a placard you can actually do it without the "cheating" (what cheating lmao?) part and get 10-20 or even more bids on a plot without even having to stay at a placard, and those are still alts.

So basically it fixed nothing, just made the bids spike in numbers and reduced the chance of people to get houses

but sure it's "better" lmao

By "cheaters" I'm referring to auto clickers. Not everyone had the bandwidth in their lives to spend that much time clicking. I don't think the lotto is perfect, but it opens housing to more people and gives them a shot at it without having to take time off from work or losing sleep. But thanks for your input, Stormy.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

You mean just like now when you can multi bid on plots with multiple accounts, same for FC

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Being able to multi-bid on an FC house is the system working as intended. Larger FCs deserve more chances to get better houses for the simple reason that there will be more people there to benefit from them, and I say this as a co-lead of a small FC. As for personals, sure, go ahead and bid with your alt. Have fun shifting items and gil back and forth between it and the character you actually play. Oh, and hope you didn't actually want to be able to teleport to that house on your main. #YouPlayedYourself

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Those numbers are for all time characters created, not active characters. The active character populations on the NA worlds are going to be closer to 30k-35k.

Crystal is considered the RP data center and so demand for housing is higher since many RPers feel having a house essential. Being raid-centric, Aether is going to have a larger percentage of players with no interest in housing and so there's less competition.

Congestion is something that SE sets based on online activity and character creation as opposed to overall population. I'm surprised that Coeurl has been Congested for several months now. Usually Mateus is the world that sits as Congested alongside Balmung.


He's got a house. He's been complaining that he can't win the upgrade he wants.

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Ahh, I see, thanks for the clarifying info Jojoya. I went and took a gander over on Courel. Not as many available as my server, but there are houses. I think you're right in that they own a house and are just discouraged at not being able to upgrade.

My husband has been trying to upgrade from his small house for the past 64 cycles too, but his outlook is that hey, he's not homeless and when he wins something, he wins something. My son is so excited that he won a small shiro house (Lottery #33) some months back, that he says he's never moving. Our FC was lucky enough to win a LB large early on in the lottery process (Lottery #6), and I was able to upgrade to a medium last February (Lottery #28) myself.

I think tweaks can be had to the system, but overall, I do prefer lottery over clicking.

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Originally Posted by TotallyToxic

I have been playing this game too long. I spent 1000's on subs fantasias and goodies in the store. I have lost every house lotto that has happened. I think enix has shit ideas with the lotto. Let us click the sign again at least we knew we had a shot! Enix sucks! I've unsubbed and packed any of my things up. Thanks for all the losses! /middle finger/ :mad:

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Skill issue lol

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Originally Posted by Battler-Ushiromiya

Skill

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I don't think that word means what you think it means. You use it a lot when it doesn't apply to the situation.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

I don't think that word means what you think it means. You use it a lot when it doesn't apply to the situation.

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He's a troll.

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Originally Posted by CidHeiral

The lotto system was the community's idea and they got exactly what they asked for.

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Yep, a much better system than the placards. It seems like a bad faith argument to suggest the placards system was acceptable.

The lottery sucks, the placards was hell. We shouldn't have either in the first place, so hopefully we don't lose sight of the forest from the trees..

But placards was horrific and you /still/ were on a chance, given multiple other variables (like someone sliding into it via pre-owned, or standing there with you).

Although the lottery system is flawed, it still stands to be lenient for now & therefore shouls have some adjustments for better conveniences.

The placard system was beyond flawed & it shouldn’t be brought back by any means (it was exploited & opened opportunity for modders to bypass that with unconventional programming means sorts..).

I cannot frankly think of any other way that would be right I believe it may be best to cap the limit of bidders per plot as it is horrendous enough that it allows past 10 bidders or more (on a single plot) to overflow more numbers, only one amongst them to be “lucky” enough by game of chance to win it.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

Yep, a much better system than the placards. It seems like a bad faith argument to suggest the placards system was acceptable.

The lottery sucks, the placards was hell. We shouldn't have either in the first place, so hopefully we don't lose sight of the forest from the trees..

But placards was horrific and you /still/ were on a chance, given multiple other variables (like someone sliding into it via pre-owned, or standing there with you).

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As someone who spent three days clicking a sign to get their original house, I completely agree that the lotto system is better. I'm just tired of this community whining to get something, then whining about the thing they got. Like the people I saw complaining about their buffs not lining up in raids and now I see the same people complaining about the two minute meta that they demanded.

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Originally Posted by CidHeiral

As someone who spent three days clicking a sign to get their original house, I completely agree that the lotto system is better. I'm just tired of this community whining to get something, then whining about the thing they got. Like the people I saw complaining about their buffs not lining up in raids and now I see the same people complaining about the two minute meta that they demanded.

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That's fair, sometimes it's not all of the same though. I am one of the earlier people to mention we should have a lottery, and now that we have it I maintain that the lottery is better :3.

I accept that there are some people who play both sides of the fence though, particularly it's difficult when people complain but have no suggestion or example desire so it's like hunting for the needle solution in the haystack.

It's definitely like game balance though where sometimes you only win by having less complaints, never will you get none... Haha.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

I don't think that word means what you think it means. You use it a lot when it doesn't apply to the situation.

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It's a meme, Jo.

all troubles aside, itd be nice to have about double the current number of slots. on busy places at least.

likewise, multi-buying from multiple characters could be tracked, and massively increase cost per additional - or do that on linking tenant if tenant is same se account or any linked service account under same master.

taxes, kupo! glorious taxes!

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Originally Posted by Impia

It's a meme, Jo.

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Yep, just memeing back at the troll. Battle shows up on a regular basis in housing posts to make the "skill" comment.

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Originally Posted by hythloth

taxes, kupo! glorious taxes!

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Careful waving that word around. You'll bring out the torches and pitchforks.

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Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl

He's a troll.

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Sure but I do unironically feel good reading posts where people can't get a house. Seethe

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