Option to reduce ( but not remove entirely) player effects

With the new graphical update coming, the ability to reduce (but not remove entirely) your or other players' effects would be a welcome one.

Said option could also be toggle-able for PVP, and while we're at it, being able to enable it automatically when you are with large groups of players would be a god send.

That exists. Just go to the system menu, then open character configuration, then go to control settings and click the Character tab, then set Battle effects like this.
Own: Show All
Party: Show Limited
Others: Show None
PvP Opponents: whatever you want.

We already have this though?

Settings > Character Configuration > Character on the top > Battle Effects Settings

Personally I couldn't stomach doing Alliance or up with these effects enabled, I run show limited for myself and show none for others. Maybe it's an old eyes thing ;). (I do wish Asylum/Soil etc was handled better with effects off though)

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Originally Posted by Sebazy

I do wish Asylum/Soil etc was handled better with effects off though

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Show All shows, well, all effects.
Show Limited only shows important ones like Asylum, Soil, Salted Earth.
Show None shows, well, none.

I'd like something between the current "All" and "Limited."

"All" typically hides the boss behind a shower of constant sparkles and explosions. "Limited" makes your party members look like they're wildly swinging their arms for no reason.

There must be a middle ground. For lack of a better reference, I'll use how things look when fighting Engels in Copied Factory.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

That exists. Just go to the system menu, then open character configuration, then go to control settings and click the Character tab, then set Battle effects like this.
Own: Show All
Party: Show Limited
Others: Show None
PvP Opponents: whatever you want.

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You seem to have missed this part

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Originally Posted by AndyMugu

the ability to reduce (but not remove entirely)

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

Show All shows, well, all effects.
Show Limited only shows important ones like Asylum, Soil, Salted Earth.
Show None shows, well, none.

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Show limited still shows a fair bit of particle fluff as well. I find it a bunch more distracting than Show None personally (Again, I'm old, might just be an old eyes thing). I guess I'm joining the OP in asking for something between limited and none then ;)

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

Show All shows, well, all effects.
Show Limited only shows important ones like Asylum, Soil, Salted Earth.
Show None shows, well, none.

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except there are things that they could (and should) change that show up even if you have it set to show none.

for example you still see the voidsent pop out of a reaper when they use void stalk even with "show none" active

and for show limited and show none, as a melee player, it would be just dandy if we didn't have the super nova white star in the center of the circle showing, just the dancing stars around the perimeter would be enough. I would love if we could reduce effects even further than the game currently allows for.

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

You seem to have missed this part

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I did not. Showing all your effects and limited for the party is decent.

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Originally Posted by Sebazy

Show limited still shows a fair bit of particle fluff as well.

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Not for me. Limited only shows the areas such as Asylum, Sacred Soil and Salted Earth.

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Originally Posted by wereotter

I would love if we could reduce effects even further than the game currently allows for.

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Particularly NPC effects would be useful.

This is how I learn this is a feature already?! I've been running alliance raids with an entire light show for years!

I just want to hide summoner effects.

They could add an option that imitates what PSO2's approach is, a "Reduced" effects if you will

Instead of going from full blast to only showing the importat ones, make ALL effects have a 50% to 30% Opacity, where you can still see the effects, but they are transparent or not as flashy

Limited effects really sucks tho, since it essentially is the same as show none for some classes

This might have been fixed since I last looked at this, and may or may not be related to the thread.

One thing I want them to fix is letting us see our DOT damage when we have other people's damage numbers disabled. It's so weird that if I place Dia on an enemy, I can't see the damage of it whenever it ticks. Maybe it's because the DOT is counted as a separate "source" of damage or something, but either way it seems silly that it hides the damage numbers

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Originally Posted by ManaEthielday

This is how I learn this is a feature already?! I've been running alliance raids with an entire light show for years!

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I see TONS of comments like this one in many MMO communities, lol.
Am I the only person whose 1st hour in every game is thoroughly checking out the available settings? :D

I think one important question that may be different for different people is why you want reduced effects. Is it because the effects make parsing what's happening in the game difficult? Is it because it's impacting your PC/console's performance? Risk of epilepsy, etc? Or just personal preference?

Because different reasons behind a request can have different ranges of viable solutions. For example, if you're having trouble parsing what's happening in the game because of the overwhelming amount of effects, well, that's something that impacts pretty much everyone! So in theory that could be solved by allowing individual users to lower their effects settings, but it seems to me that a more optimal solution would be for the game's effects to be designed such that they don't interfere with your average user's ability to tell what's going on in content. Etc. Which is just to say that the "why" is important!

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

I just want to hide summoner effects.

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Is mean the big summoned creatures? Mao has much troubles with thems. Mao view blocked muchly.

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Originally Posted by ManaEthielday

This is how I learn this is a feature already?! I've been running alliance raids with an entire light show for years!

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I still think it's pretty nuts that the devs are okay with the way it is as the default.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

I just want to hide summoner effects.

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Originally Posted by Eraden

Is mean the big summoned creatures? Mao has much troubles with thems. Mao view blocked muchly.

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Hey cuties! Just enter the following in chat:

/petsize all small

This will shrink down all non-permanent summons to tiny size and make it much easier to navigate around them.

To revert this, use /petsize all large. There is also /petsize all medium if you like a middle ground between those.

You can also just change the size of individual summons if u prefer leaving them at different sizes for some reason: /petsize Demi-Bahamut small for example.

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Originally Posted by Eisi

Hey cuties! Just enter the following in chat:

/petsize all small

This will shrink down all non-permanent summons to tiny size and make it much easier to navigate around them.

To revert this, use /petsize all large. There is also /petsize all medium if you like a middle ground between those.

You can also just change the size of individual summons if u prefer leaving them at different sizes for some reason: /petsize Demi-Bahamut small for example.

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Doesn't help with the constant flashbangs, though.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Doesn't help with the constant flashbangs, though.

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Yeah, unfortunately if you wanna get rid of those you have to get rid of everything via limited effects :(.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Doesn't help with the constant flashbangs, though.

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That brought back some PTSD from Red Mage LB from DR runs....

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Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas

That brought back some PTSD from Red Mage LB from DR runs....

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Sure, but RDM can only do it once a fight. Summoners do it every thirty seconds or so. And multiple summoners can all do it repeatedly.

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Originally Posted by AmiableApkallu

I'd like something between the current "All" and "Limited."

"All" typically hides the boss behind a shower of constant sparkles and explosions. "Limited" makes your party members look like they're wildly swinging their arms for no reason.

There must be a middle ground. For lack of a better reference, I'll use how things look when fighting Engels in Copied Factory.

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Concur. This is the problem, there's no middle ground. "there's no chill", so to speak.

Show all: The SGE next to me is shooting massive lasers.
Show limited: The SGE next to me is flailing their arms and doing the physical MOTIONS of shooting massive lasers, but not shooting any massive lasers.
Show none: The SGE next to me is flailing their arms and doing the physical MOTIONS of shooting massive lasers, but not shooting any massive lasers.

Show all: The WHM next to me is shooting massive holy explosions and having huge glowy bubbles of healing.
Show limited: The WHM next to me is flailing their arms and doing the physical MOTIONS of shooting massive holy explosions, but not shooting any massive holy explosions; but still having huge glowy bubbles of healing.
Show none: The WHM next to me is flailing their arms and doing the physical MOTIONS of shooting massive holy explosions, but not shooting any massive holy explosions; and the huge bubbles of healing are invisible so I can't tell at a glance if I'm in them or not.

There needs to be some option between all and limited where you still see spell effects, but at a reduced level of...presence?

Limited doesn't show general spell effects. It only shows things like party buffs/effects such as Passage of Arms or Sacred Soil (stuff you want to know to move into), but doesn't show the players doing anything else, so it still looks like none as far as the other players flailing around doing nothing.

I'm not sure how to do this other than making the effects smaller or less bright (filter?) or something. Some solution like using the lowest ranks of the spells could work in cases like Dosis, but less so in cases like Holy. So I'm not sure the answer other than that there needs to be something between all and limited.

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Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo

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I kind of agree.

For me, it's when doing something like the final boss of the 24 man, I CANNOT SEE the arms/circle thing before the three charges unless I have spell effects off. If I have them off (or have only mine showing), I can see them clear as day. I do agree it's partly how attacks are telegraphed. I remember the first time trying to do Savages being like "Wait, so you have to look at the boss?" "Yeah, when Eric has his arm up, you can see these three gems, and..." "Wait, you can see his arm?!" It was the weirdest thing since I was used to encounters...not doing that. In Extremes, there were a few that did, but usually the attack tell was the name (a lot of ShB Extremes had like in/out mechanics with different names), or the boss would do something noticeable, like Titania. When she does the in/out runes, people would talk about a purple or green glow. I couldn't see those OVER THE VISUAL SOUND OF HOW AWESOME EVERYONE'S SPELLS WERE...but I COULD see her wings, and that's the tell I used. Her wings either floof out and she rises or they bunch in and she slightly crouches. And her wings stuck out far enough I could usually see them sticking out of the mass of spell effect lightshow.

Now, "look at the boss" has become a thing in even normal content - which is kind of annoying for this reason - so I've taken to turning my spell effects to self only and party limited. Now I can see the boss tells fine and they're super easy!...but now the immersion is garbage since the SGE, BLM, etc next to me looks like a total impotent moron flailing about and doing nothing.

I really wish there was some happy medium OR we could go back to boss tells being away from their body and obvious enough by either visual or name that even with spell effects on, you can work it out. As things used to be.

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Originally Posted by Eraden

Is mean the big summoned creatures? Mao has much troubles with thems. Mao view blocked muchly.

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/petsize all small

Try that, it really helps. Not with the explosion on the boss (that's the spell effect), but you don't have Titan's glorious arse filling your ENTIRE camera. If you want Titans' glorious arse filling your entire camera, though, you'd want /petsize all large. :)

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Originally Posted by Erinellza

I see TONS of comments like this one in many MMO communities, lol.
Am I the only person whose 1st hour in every game is thoroughly checking out the available settings? :D

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To be fair, that one's hidden in an odd place. Who'd think under "general -> character" you'd find visual spell settings? Not under visuals or display or hud or party. It's not in a really logical place.

And comments like that are what people should remember - while things may seem obvious to people who have been around for a while, not only are they not necessarily so to new people, they may not be so to older people as well.