Speculation on Dawntrail's Raid series

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11-10-2023, 10:26 PM
Volgia

Speculation on Dawntrail's Raid series

Is there any info on it... or any thread speculating on what it might be, if not, I wanna see your thoughts.
11-13-2023, 12:59 PM
LilFlowers

Maybe something to do with the Blue Mages of the New World, that way it could feel special for BLUs when they do it later on that job. Could also be raid bosses based on some of the areas that were teased to us by a certain character near the end of EW. These are very vague speculations as I am in no way a lore expert for the new area.
11-13-2023, 01:05 PM
Jeeqbit

The main things we knew, they made sure to tell us anyway.

The Great Gubal Library told us it had a city of gold. We were told that by the developers anyway.

Blue Mage quests created some lore there. It seems we are going to visit an area with a similar issue to one that happened in the blue mage quests.

It has Mamool Ja. We knew that as well. But the developers told us this too.
11-13-2023, 01:13 PM
CaptainLagbeard

There's not enough lore available to really speculate... I suppose the "City of Gold" is the only standout thing we particularly know about the New World.

So who knows, maybe the FFXIV version of El Dorado is going to be the Raid series.
11-13-2023, 01:28 PM
mallleable

I think it'd be fun if it's about around going after some magical macguffin, but another party of rival adventurers is also after it. But it turns out that the magical macguffin is actually evil, and corrupts the rival adventurers. So the bosses could be like whatever monsters/guardians are in the way of getting to the macguffin, and the corrupted adventurers with their jobs being translated into raid bosses.
11-13-2023, 05:31 PM
Volgia

Do you guys think it'll be tied to another FF or it'll be like a new thing like Pandemoneum (Although sike cuz Athena was actually Ultima)
11-13-2023, 05:38 PM
Yuella

Athena is more like Emperor Mateus from FF2. Pandemonium is based on FF2 (where the Ultima spell plays an important part of the story)
11-13-2023, 10:29 PM
Doragan

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Originally Posted by Volgia

Do you guys think it'll be tied to another FF or it'll be like a new thing like Pandemoneum (Although sike cuz Athena was actually Ultima)

I'll admit, I was a bit disappointed to not see much of FFXI in this series. I mean, we're in Pandemonium.. we spend time with the Wardens.. like come on.

I expect a FF13-inspired series this time around, for no particular reason.
11-13-2023, 10:49 PM
Nebelheim

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Originally Posted by Doragan

I'll admit, I was a bit disappointed to not see much of FFXI in this series. I mean, we're in Pandemonium.. we spend time with the Wardens.. like come on.

I expect a FF13-inspired series this time around, for no particular reason.

Pandamonium is more based on ff2 the only pandemonium in ff11 was pandemonium warden which is why we never got any ff11 references in that raid series. If anything there should have been more ff2 and ff12 references since the convocation is based on ff12.
11-13-2023, 10:55 PM
Saraide

I hope it's not the city of gold. I hope the city of gold isnt real, like the IRL myth of the golden city.
11-13-2023, 11:08 PM
Connor

Ff9 Ilfa Tree? Lifa? W/E it is lol
11-14-2023, 02:11 AM
SerMicha

Maybe something to do with a summon from prior FF titles? HW had Alex, SHB had Eden, though I guess both of those were large enough entities to house multiple raids. If they were to keep the pattern of every second (excluding ARR) expansion having a summon-related raid series, it would probably have to focus around multiple summons.

On a wishful note, I really want them to add some proper FFX inspired PvE content to the game LOL, outside of 1 mount, 1 raid background, and 1 dungeon boss. seems like of the first 10 games it gets the least love, though I guess they might view it as too modern
11-14-2023, 02:49 AM
Volgia

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Originally Posted by SerMicha

Maybe something to do with a summon from prior FF titles? HW had Alex, SHB had Eden, though I guess both of those were large enough entities to house multiple raids. If they were to keep the pattern of every second (excluding ARR) expansion having a summon-related raid series, it would probably have to focus around multiple summons.

On a wishful note, I really want them to add some proper FFX inspired PvE content to the game LOL, outside of 1 mount, 1 raid background, and 1 dungeon boss. seems like of the first 10 games it gets the least love, though I guess they might view it as too modern

Yu Yevon so we have our own Majora's Mask experience!
11-15-2023, 11:24 AM
Mayhemmer

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Originally Posted by Connor

Ff9 Ilfa Tree? Lifa? W/E it is lol

I'm willing to bet this could be a thing in the event that we ever go to Meracydia, with it's "World Tree."
11-16-2023, 04:08 AM
TaleraRistain

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Originally Posted by Yuella

Athena is more like Emperor Mateus from FF2. Pandemonium is based on FF2 (where the Ultima spell plays an important part of the story)

I really enjoyed that aspect since it's Lahabrea who is the Mateus counterpart of the Convocation. And they did reference the Light/Dark Emperor thing with his split, too. Then it turns out Athena is the actual Mateus of the story. It was a nice twist.
11-16-2023, 01:57 PM
hynaku

First raid should be Blitzball. Where you have to beat each team to move on to the final team.
11-16-2023, 11:48 PM
Raikai

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Originally Posted by LilFlowers

Maybe something to do with the Blue Mages of the New World, that way it could feel special for BLUs when they do it later on that job. Could also be raid bosses based on some of the areas that were teased to us by a certain character near the end of EW. These are very vague speculations as I am in no way a lore expert for the new area.

While the idea is endearing, it would be a slap on the face to make a content with the limited job part of its story without the limited job being able to actually participate for its release... :(

For sure it's something that will happen in the New World and branch off the MSQ as usual, but is hard to gauge what when we know so little about the bigger scope of what's actually there to explore as 'lore installments'.

I just hope that the raid series is truly a separate narrative, because we know how having it so interwined with the MSQ, in the example of the Eden series, can cause continuity problems in the future.
11-17-2023, 03:01 AM
Jojoya

It could be anything at all. I don't think we've been given any genuine hints.

I'd lean toward it perhaps being one of the remaining Reflections as Y'shtola continues to unlock travel between the shards with the help of the Ironworks.

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Originally Posted by Saraide

I hope it's not the city of gold. I hope the city of gold isnt real, like the IRL myth of the golden city.

We already know that it is real thanks to Emet-Selch.

I suspect the "gold" part of the name will turn out to be a metaphor for something else and that it will be part of the MSQ conclusion instead of the raid, though.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

I just hope that the raid series is truly a separate narrative, because we know how having it so interwined with the MSQ, in the example of the Eden series, can cause continuity problems in the future.

All the 8 man raids have caused some sort of continuity problem at this point. I doubt that will hold SE back.