NIN wishlist for 7.0

I think NIN is currently one of the jobs that are really fun to play. The Mudra system is awesome and keeps you quite busy.

So what would you like to see in 7.0 for NIN? What are your wishes? Who knows? Maybe a dev will read this!

Here are my wishes.

• A proper sneaking animation/stance for "Hide".
• Actual uses for "Hide" in the game.
• Make "Hide" usable in combat when behind the enemy.
• Add more weaponskills or abilities only usable while in "Hide".
• Rework "Mug" entirely, make it actually steal items or gil from enemies that die while under the effect of it.
• 1 additional Mudra charge.
• 1 additional shukuchi charge.
• Hellfrog Medium looks awful. Would like to have it redone or replaced with something more visually appealing.
• Ability to use the ROG running animation instead of the "Naruto run".
• Increased potency for Fuma Shuriken.
• Reduce Shade Shift cooldown to 60s.

I would focus on Rouge base class and give it more Rouge abilities, especially at the lower levels.

Ummm.....I sincerely hope none of that happens.

I'm all for improved animations/sound effects and Mug could use the rework or a replacement. The item bonus doesn't even work when it's relevant and it's attached to a 2min cd that isn't very powerful and just gives Kenki for some season. The split 5% damage buff could also be moved to Trick Attack.

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Originally Posted by Ryskim

• A proper sneaking animation/stance for "Hide".
• Actual uses for "Hide" in the game.
• Make "Hide" usable in combat when behind the enemy.
• Add more weaponskills or abilities only usable while in "Hide".
• Rework "Mug" entirely, make it actually steal items or gil from enemies that die while under the effect of it.
• 1 additional Mudra charge.
• 1 additional shukuchi charge.
• Hellfrog Medium looks awful. Would like to have it redone or replaced with something more visually appealing.
• Ability to use the ROG running animation instead of the "Naruto run".
• Increased potency for Fuma Shuriken.
• Reduce Shade Shift cooldown to 60s.

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I wanna apologize but these are the worst change suggestions for NIN I've seen and I played Endwalker Launch NIN xX
but let me join the fray:

• If they bring a change to Hide it just be an Movement Speed Boost for NIN only (kinda like Assassin from Ragnarok Online)
• Kassatsu should have Hyosho Ranryu and Goka Mekkyaku Ninjutsu at lvl50 and maybe a boost at lvl76, so your Muscle Memory doesn't play against you in sublvl76 content
• I prefer the Old Trick Attack/Mug over the New tbh though the new versions are not a deal breaker
• A somewhat Prediction: A Raiju Equivalent for Katon may come

I still wonder how NIN Players didn't riot over Huraijin xD"

Not a ninja main but I'll throw this out there:

Rework mug and trick attack to how they were before 6.1.

Duality returns as a low level bunshin. For ShB/EW babies, Duality caused your shadow to replicate your next action.

You learn armor crush in the 40's.

Katon changes forked/fleeting raiju into forked/fleeting kaju, a high potency melee aoe.

A CD that costs around 20 ninki that doubles the potency of your next fuma shuriken. Perhaps this can be an added effect on an existing ability.

A low level version of bhavacakra learned around 18.

I'd totally rework AoE. Death blossom is now on an 8 sec CD but sets down a doton. Using any attack while standing in doton damages all nearby enemies. Hollow nozuchi has a 50% chance of triggering after any weaponskill.

Hyoton has the added effect of halting the duration of huton for 20 seconds.

Raiju/Kaju can be used for 10 seconds after using the respective mudra.

Please for the love of all things holy:

Make hide remove stealth when recast, also remove its dam CD, its not like we can use it in combat, i'm sick of blowing my opener when randoms decide to wait 16.2491 seconds to pull..

also cant mug and trick attack be the same button? same can be said with a lot of buttons we have that are "the single target or aoe one" just make the function based on number hit, or first target revives x damage and x for remaining up to cap..

besides the 3rd button to our st 3 button rotation(s), nin's entire toolkit is basically a mirror of single target and aoe versions


also op not really a fan of hide, almost wish it were removed, its clunky and is such a worthless stealth that its entire mechanic could be solved by removing ninjutsu CD while not in combat.

what id like to see

Hide pauses Hutons timer just a prepull QoL
remove Mesui and Mudras just now give Ninki (fuma 5,raiton/katon 10 and Doton/suiton 25)
remove Forked Raiju
Follow up for katon and kassatsu jutsu's like fleeting raiju (but shares a button with Fleeting Raiju)
Baha/Frog merged or just new animations for both
Shade Shift 90s CD
revert Trick attack and Mug

My complaints are mostly to do with the 2m meta but id like for Raiju to not break from GCDs. I dont have the capacity to think what that would mean for the job but it is annoying as hell.

Anyone wanna bet with me about the lv 100 skill beeing either the Susano'o or the Kurama? xD

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Originally Posted by Mecia

My complaints are mostly to do with the 2m meta but id like for Raiju to not break from GCDs. I dont have the capacity to think what that would mean for the job but it is annoying as hell.

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hard agree, i say its good having punishing play for misuse, but we already have that in the form of messing up the mundra order, there is no reason to punish us for wanting to keep our gcd rolling when thats generally the basis for all dmg in this game

I would say Mug and Trick Attack are fine how they are if it weren't for the crippling damage nerf on the physical damage itself, NIN has the worst damage output out of all melees during the odd minutes of the fight, sometimes the 2m burst cant properly account for it. All of this done to make the job balanced doesn't look balanced at all.
We just get a punishing job that if followed as intended gives mediocre damage overall.
If they won't fix that, then maybe bring back poisons?
Getting the Huton timer paused on Hide is a good ask since the tanks do not care for ninjas or dancers in duty roulette.
Raiju not breaking on the GCD clip.
Re-enable Hide when all enemies are not targetable/hidden.

Disclosure: was a shb nin main for raiding & dungeon now i just use it for deep dungeon & treasure maps

Mug & trick attack are fine maybe a change in CD but the application is good , the real issue was/is the removal of shadow fang and condensing assassinate & dream into one skill to make room for the 2 raiju skills (reducing ogcds is terrible) along with adding hurajin basically making armor crush redundant

Before you even say anything about assassinate animation lock, it was something they definitely could have fixed just as they did with with other issues regarding animation lock

Also i recommend looking at some of the past removed skills from SB to get a better idea of what was taken &/or repurposed, personally i think it would have been neat if they kept jugulate as a psudeo interrupt, made smokescreen into a party buff that would reduce DMG taken as well as kept sneak attack but i digress as these are just fantasies (oh the irony)

https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki...oved_abilities

Not a main Ninja but, I would like Dream within a Dream to be removed, but the animation kept!

Basically, it would just replace Mug. DwD has no interaction with anyskill and is quite boring as a skill. It could be removed without affecting the rotation or gameplay at all (beside removing 1 button press during burst window).
This is obviously to make some room for the 1-2 new skills we'll get.

For the rest, really hard to say. Nin's kit feel complete and it's hard to see what could be added.

Something to have a more meaningfull downtime, like, less boring than 123123123 I suppose.

But for the rest... all mudra are now useful. The element which are not (hyoton) becomes when using Kassatsu. We got 2 ressources gauge. Some thematic skills. Good mobility and ability to hit at range if needed (altough with those hitbox....)

I really don't know what could be added.

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Originally Posted by RyuuZero

[*]Kassatsu should have Hyosho Ranryu and Goka Mekkyaku Ninjutsu at lvl50 and maybe a boost at lvl76, so your Muscle Memory doesn't play against you in sublvl76 content

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the ninja kit level 50 and below is still pretty packed, so I'm okay with having lower level ninja not have access to the upgraded mudra combos. Lower level content isn't so tough as to have it make a huge difference accidentally using a less potent skill. If they're moving down ninja skills to level 50, I'd rather have armor crush as the level 50 capstone skill