Please include both sets of Au Ra Graphical Eyes

I don't know what to say on this. I didn't realize how disliked the new Limbal Rings were from the graphics update. I came to the forums to see the excitement around it but to my surprise there are a lot of negativities around it. I genuinely think the new eyes are an upgrade and really happy with it, but number of threads popping up over it has me worried they might undo/revert it.

I want everyone to be happy, so I'm requesting SE to offer both the new graphical eyes and the current synthetic eyes as selections for Au Ra players.

I do hope they can still adjust the eyes a bit more, because overall I do think and agree the eyes look better, but I don't want to lose the glow from the limbal either, the glow of it is part of why I chose the options I did for my characters eyes, so like either provide both options as you suggested or try to adjust a bit more to find a nice middle ground for the eyes and limbals

I think this would be the best compromise, and the best outcome for everyone.

But... I'm not very confident that the dev team would implement this (because despite their assurances that they look at feedback and how long they've spent talking about a small change on Au ra horns today, I still feel like so much feedback never reaches them, and because it would mean more resources to spend on UI changes, new character settings, etc etc).

But I also want to be extra greedy and ask: why not add the new limbal ring to each race in that case? Since it's part of a shader, it could easily be added to M'iqote eyes, Lalafell eyes, anyone.
That way that option remains available for Au ra players who are satisfied with the new look, it offers new creative possibilities for other races, and Au ra players who preferred the old version can toggle on an extra "glowing" (or more contrasted) ring on top (since it was a separate model, and not part of the new shader).

It's going to be very interesting to see how people react. For me, I'm so used to how everything looks now, and I enjoy it personally, that it's weird seeing the characters become more lifelike. They look wrong to me somehow, even though I can rationally see that they're higher quality.

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Originally Posted by Remish

I don't know what to say on this. I didn't realize how disliked the new Limbal Rings were from the graphics update. I came to the forums to see the excitement around it but to my surprise there are a lot of negativities around it. I genuinely think the new eyes are an upgrade and really happy with it, but number of threads popping up over it has me worried they might undo/revert it.

I want everyone to be happy, so I'm requesting SE to offer both the new graphical eyes and the current synthetic eyes as selections for Au Ra players.

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The update of the Au ra eyes is gorgeous and I'm dreading the inevitability of them reverting it because of complaints. I absolutely despise the current female Au ra eyes. They have almost no highlights in them and look perpetually dead and emotionless. I was thrilled when I saw the pictures, but to be honest this forum is where the most negative of negative players gather to bounce hive mind negative opinions off each other so I'm never surprised about anything.

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Originally Posted by Caro178

The update of the Au ra eyes is gorgeous and I'm dreading the inevitability of them reverting it because of complaints. I absolutely despise the current female Au ra eyes. They have almost no highlights in them and look perpetually dead and emotionless. I was thrilled when I saw the pictures, but to be honest this forum is where the most negative of negative players gather to bounce hive mind negative opinions off each other so I'm never surprised about anything.

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That post was fine in the first place, then you had to hit us with :

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but to be honest this forum is where the most negative of negative players gather to bounce hive mind negative opinions off each other so I'm never surprised about anything.

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yikes

people are literally coming out of the woodworks to complain about the new eyes, people that never post here, and this is what you come up with?

Yoshida is trying to make FFXIV ressemble FFXVI with the new graphical update.
I don't think the ugly bright limbals will return cause it won't fit the aesthetics.

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Originally Posted by SchwarzwaelderTorte

I think this would be the best compromise, and the best outcome for everyone.

But... I'm not very confident that the dev team would implement this (because despite their assurances that they look at feedback and how long they've spent talking about a small change on Au ra horns today, I still feel like so much feedback never reaches them, and because it would mean more resources to spend on UI changes, new character settings, etc etc).

But I also want to be extra greedy and ask: why not add the new limbal ring to each race in that case? Since it's part of a shader, it could easily be added to M'iqote eyes, Lalafell eyes, anyone.
That way that option remains available for Au ra players who are satisfied with the new look, it offers new creative possibilities for other races, and Au ra players who preferred the old version can toggle on an extra "glowing" (or more contrasted) ring on top (since it was a separate model, and not part of the new shader).

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This sounds too defeatest. I would eat my words if they didnt listen but if most of you Au Ra players are having mixed feelings about it and provide this feedback I'm sure they'll come to a compromise. They've flippin spent a useless 10 or so minutes talking about the stupid Au Ra horns in a keynote. If that doesnt scream "were dedicated into doing this" I dont know what else will.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

That post was fine in the first place, then you had to hit us with :



yikes

people are literally coming out of the woodworks to complain about the new eyes, people that never post here, and this is what you come up with?

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It is the truth. This is the forum of negativity. I know the truth hurts but you should accept it.

The new ones look more natural. I personally prefer them. But this is fantasy, and many players grew to accept that Au Ra have unnatural looking limbal rings. The devs chose to have them that way and gave them to the players to choose as an option. There was no technological limitation stopping them from making them more natural 8 years ago. They decided that the solid ring was the right way to go and many players accepted it as part of their characters.

Dont mind it but then I never used the option to begin with

Giving us the option for either would be the ideal solution and I really hope they do.
The thing that bothers me the most about the screenshot is that it were always kinda possible to get that look by selecting a darker colour, but instead they turned one of the brightest options into a mid tone?
How will darker options look then, just vanish into the dark eyes of a xaela completely?
Ngl, if they decide to go only with the new option only it'll change the look of my current character so completely it might just be the final straw for me.
I pray and hope they'll give us the option for either too. More customization options are always the biggest win for the players.

Literally just keep the new eyes, but add a glow slider for limbal rings. It should be simple.

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Originally Posted by Remish

I came to the forums to see the excitement around it but to my surprise there are a lot of negativities around it.

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Like with everything in this forum, that means nothing. That's why is so irrelevant. They complain about everything.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

This sounds too defeatest.

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Maybe, but the only times I've participated on these forums was to provide feedback or support threads that were requesting information or changes to future features (rip Notorious Monster Slayer you could have been transferred to Eureka), and none of the topics have ever been acknowledged by the community team or through official channels. Then later I happen to watch a Live Letter where Yoshida answers questions from Japanese players while they do an alliance raid, and someone asks for the Fat Chocobo Head to be dyeable, and he goes "okay, let's do it" and it's implemented only a few months later. It stings a little.

Personally I haven't seen anyone complain about the glossiness of the horns on social media (many people have been reacting to the limbal rings by contrast), so I don't know how that feedback made its way to the dev team, but the audience reaction (or lack there of) was pretty self explanatory.

Here's a recent thread of defeatist people trying to give feedback about how hard it is to give feedback, and I am sure there are many more around.

I think this ultimately just comes down to giving feedback on allowing the new rings to glow more, or if they haven't shown us it, show us the rings actually glowing instead of when they aren't. I want the glow, it is very important to me and made my character's eyes around that to create large 'pink' eyes from a distant look. It really stands out for my character and I really don't want to lose it. The actual eyes look great, its just the limbal ring part that has myself and others concerned by the lack of it glowing. It is an aspect of Au Ras that is filled with magic, it shouldn't be dulled out, or if so, given as an option to the player to decide if they wish for their limbal rings to glow or not.

Personally, I think all the eyes look way too muted.

Au Ra have absolutely got the worst part of this, but even things like the Elezen went from bright eyes to just plain grey.

With the new stuff, I don't even know why we'd have so many eye color options to choose from when they're all going to look basically the same within each hue.