Data Center and PF

Hello everyone,

As of late many players within the Primal data center have stopped making PF's all together in Primal and simply move over to Aether. This has caused an issue where PF on primal and Crystal (for content) is dead, and the community as a whole has moved over to Aether for party finder.

Now inheritently the ability to travel to different Data Centers is great, and I don't blame SE for this problem. I feel like it is something that wasn't predictable, but at the same time it totally makes sense as to why it happened. Aether has always been the "most" raid centered DC, therefore it stands to reason players would move over to Aether to open their PF's.

I've heard the argument "well the players are at fault" well that's a irrelevant statement because naturally players are going to go wherever they can go to find content, it is up to the developers to fine tune and adapt to situations as the need arises.

With all that being said, Does SE have any plans to address the party finder situation in NA? I can't say anything in regards to Asia or Eu as I do not play those servers.

Personally I say get rid of the DC and just have Regions data centers.
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Asia
EU
Oceanic
That way if you are on the NA DC
You can just move over to any server you like at any time. I understand this is not as simple as simply flipping a switch, however in the long run a situation like this is ultimately the most healthy option for the game.
Once this is done all PFs would be unified.
As for people who fear seeing RP in their PF, well you can just filter those out so a concern like that is irrelevant

the solution will most likely be the future cloud servers where they will eventually put na servers all in the same pool when they wont have to worry about instances being full.

Agreed this is what I believed would happen as well, I just wish SE would say something regarding the PF issue. Even something as simple as "we are going to address this at a future point" would suffice for me. I am aware however, that , that is a bit unrealistic. :(

Unpopular opinion, but I think quite a few areas of the game plummeted when they opened up cross-world travel. It's handy if you have friends spread around and don't want to transfer, but it seems to be causing problems in just about every other aspect. I don't really know how they could address it without either a) removing it entirely or b) merging everything as you suggest, but as little as I know about that sort of thing, previous information makes it seem pretty much impossible. I also have a vague suspicion NA raiders and RPers wouldn't be jazzed about sharing a PF if current complaints are anything to go by...

(And it's "inherently", btw.)

DC travel was a mistake.

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Originally Posted by CidHeiral

DC travel was a mistake.

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I hate Aether so much its unreal

This problem happens in JP with everyone going to Mana and EU going to Light.

Yoshi-P only seems aware of it affecting JP, but has a solution in mind for it so hopefully it can be extended to the other regions as well.

Even if the end goal is to have regional mass DCs, the interim solution needs to be to restrict party leader functions to people who are on their home DC, so that you can switch DCs to play with one of your friends but not just so that you can switch DCs and end up with a full 8/8 party of strangers who are all from your home DC anyway.

If they had the resources and technology, I rather wish we had just one giant mega server for each region. Otherwise the better solution is to implement cross-DC party finder.

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Originally Posted by WeebPolice

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lmao 10/10

DC travel effectively killed my FC. All the people who run content in PF just go to Aether and chill by themselves, all the people who have statics go to whatever DC their static is on, and all the casual players who run roulettes stay home and don't have the majority of us to party up with anymore. We used to have more banter and jokes in FC chat, which would lead to more chatting and people getting together to run content, but now it's become relatively empty. It's really sad.

DC travel and the ability to do content on other dc's is the culprit. All they could do to really fix it is suspend DC travel or disable doing content on another DC. This would sick for dynamis ppl

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Originally Posted by Nizzi

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I mean, we didn't ask for literally everyone to come to us, this wasn't our fault. It's not our fault people had a certain expectation of us and then flocked to us for running content. I don't like it either because people come here and expect us to be amazing and then complain if there's wipes and say stuff like "I thought this was the raiding data center".

yea last night on crystal PF consisted of 100 different Pfs for venues out of 119 total in the party finder. XD it kind of sucks right now with DF. I see myself on Aether more and more and I will probably ending up moving back there. LIke I like when stuff happens on crystal but its not happening lately I get the concept, but they should have worked on making roulette and PF region wide first.

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

DC travel and the ability to do content on other dc's is the culprit. All they could do to really fix it is suspend DC travel or disable doing content on another DC. This would sick for dynamis ppl

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Originally Posted by Evewalker

DC travel effectively killed my FC. All the people who run content in PF just go to Aether and chill by themselves, all the people who have statics go to whatever DC their static is on, and all the casual players who run roulettes stay home and don't have the majority of us to party up with anymore. We used to have more banter and jokes in FC chat, which would lead to more chatting and people getting together to run content, but now it's become relatively empty. It's really sad.

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Woa people leaving DC coz DC sucks, maybe instead of disabling DC travel (coz next you gonna ask for disabling transfers), we just disable outdated DC thing itself? And make only one DC for each region? And allow players to use crossregion PF and DF? Coz maybe some of them playing on weird timezones.

Disabling Datacenter hops will only force players to drop the game or pay for transfer.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

If they had the resources and technology, I rather wish we had just one giant mega server for each region. Otherwise the better solution is to implement cross-DC party finder.

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The real question with that is, what could possibly go wrong? I mean that sincerely and not sarcastically. I don't think many people expected this to be the consequences of DC travel; so what other unforseen consequences could these solutions bring?

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Originally Posted by Remolia

Woa people leaving DC coz DC sucks, maybe instead of disabling DC travel (coz next you gonna ask for disabling transfers), we just disable outdated DC thing itself? And make only one DC for each region? And allow players to use crossregion PF and DF? Coz maybe some of them playing on weird timezones.

Disabling Datacenter hops will only force players to drop the game or pay for transfer.

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You know that there used to be zero DC or world travel at all, right? And the game existed quite comfortably. Servers actually had some semblance of community and identity to them, and PF was able to function properly instead of being overcrowded or a wasteland depending on the DC you were in.

DC Travel did solve a problem that SE created.

Many years ago now, SE did a "Data Center" split. Many people on Crystal were faced with a choice: leave their friends behind on Crystal for the "raid DC" Aether, or stay on Crystal and struggle with the smaller raid community. Their friends got split apart and if they did not have contact with them any other way, then that was the end of their relationship unless they made an alt (which many people did). They also had to part ways with their FC. This destroyed some people's friend circles or FCs to such a point, that they were sad or quit.

But SE hadn't stopped working to try and solve this problem and now it is solved. If those players return to the game, they can contact the players they lost contact with via DC travel, without being forced into playing an alt they don't care about.

It has just had some downsides to it as well, in the area of high-end content.

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Originally Posted by Worldofwarcraft

Agreed this is what I believed would happen as well, I just wish SE would say something regarding the PF issue. Even something as simple as "we are going to address this at a future point" would suffice for me. I am aware however, that , that is a bit unrealistic. :(

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They did mention it. For some reason, they thought it was only a problem affecting players on the JP data centers. Hopefully the howl of disbelief coming from NA/EU players got through to them.

At the time, YoshiP said that he wasn't certain what they could do to fix the problem other than shut down data center travel. They are trying to think of better solutions than that.

If someone is at the fanfest right now, maybe they can mention it to Yoshi-P or the others there... that people flock to Aether and Light for raids as well.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

They did mention it. For some reason, they thought it was only a problem affecting players on the JP data centers. Hopefully the howl of disbelief coming from NA/EU players got through to them.

At the time, YoshiP said that he wasn't certain what they could do to fix the problem other than shut down data center travel. They are trying to think of better solutions than that.

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the fact that they thought it was only affecting the JP servers kind of shows the community liason/ambassador/whatever it called and the devs really don't pay attention to what happening on the non JP servers. This topic has been brought up a lot over the year especially when they rolled out dynamis its freaking glaring how bad its hurts. I kind of wish they would shut down DC travel if they can't figure out how to fix it.

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Originally Posted by angienessyo

I mean, we didn't ask for literally everyone to come to us, this wasn't our fault. It's not our fault people had a certain expectation of us and then flocked to us for running content. I don't like it either because people come here and expect us to be amazing and then complain if there's wipes and say stuff like "I thought this was the raiding data center".

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Most people are chill but I've seen someone say that a few times, too. My sibling in Hydaelyn, we can screw up just like any other DC.

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Originally Posted by Lunaxia

You know that there used to be zero DC or world travel at all, right? And the game existed quite comfortably. Servers actually had some semblance of community and identity to them, and PF was able to function properly instead of being overcrowded or a wasteland depending on the DC you were in.

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We also used to have 1 EU datacenter, until it got spitted into 2 parts, and screwed alot of PvP queues and other queues/finders.
If data centers were fine, people wont mass use data center hops.

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Originally Posted by Remolia

Woa people leaving DC coz DC sucks, maybe instead of disabling DC travel (coz next you gonna ask for disabling transfers), we just disable outdated DC thing itself? And make only one DC for each region? And allow players to use crossregion PF and DF? Coz maybe some of them playing on weird timezones.

Disabling Datacenter hops will only force players to drop the game or pay for transfer.

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And? That's a possibility but will force ppl back into their own DC to do content instead of swarming us on aether