Is it worth doing the book grinding for Zenith weapon at Level 80 WAR?

Like it says in the title, I'm wondering if I'm pissing in the wind when it comes to spending the gratuitous amount of time it takes to finish the Zenith weapon stuff, namely the Zodiac Braves tomes, when I'm Level 81 and it's somewhat less powerful than my prior weapon at the level I'm at. If anything, I mostly want this damn quest out of my Journal, but is there an advantage to finishing all of this (still need to finish the other 7 out of 9 books)?

The relics in progress are only fair to good at their own level. A maxed out relic is BiS from its level until Lv_5.

So the answer to "should I make [any relic that isn't the current cap level]" is, "do you want to use it for glam?"

In this game even 1 weapon damage makes a significant difference to dps output, so using an old weapon for anything but glamour is strongly discouraged. For reference, the Bravura Zenith's final form is the Ragnarok Zeta, which has weapon damage rating of 66. The Lv80 relic final form is the Blade's Valor, which has 106 weapon damage rating. But if you like how a weapon looks and you have an outfit in mind to go with it, then yes definitely get the weapon to use for glamour.

Honestly, I might stick with it, then, for that Lv.80 form; might take a bit to grind through all of that, but if anything, at least I'll have had it done, then. Thank you so much! <3

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Originally Posted by Sworly

Honestly, I might stick with it, then, for that Lv.80 form; might take a bit to grind through all of that, but if anything, at least I'll have had it done, then. Thank you so much! <3

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The relics at each cap level are separate. If you want the Lv80 relic skip 50, 60, 70 and start a fresh Lv80 relic quest line in ShB content.

They are only worth doing if you like how they look (such as the glowing effects).

They are only the "best" weapon for a brief period at the tail end of an expansion. As the previous poster said, there is a separate relic weapon grind for each expansion (aka each 10 levels from level 50 onwards). It's not worth doing during an expansion because crafted, extreme, tomestone, savage and ultimate weapons are better unless it's for an alt class that you don't play as much or you don't do raids. Once the expansion is over, it's no longer useful for stats and the reason to do it is for how it looks.

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Originally Posted by Rongway

The relics at each cap level are separate. If you want the Lv80 relic skip 50, 60, 70 and start a fresh Lv80 relic quest line in ShB content.

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Eesh, that sounds like a headache; were it not for the Leves and the specific FATEs, it wouldn't be so bad, but...

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

They are only worth doing if you like how they look (such as the glowing effects).

They are only the "best" weapon for a brief period at the tail end of an expansion. As the previous poster said, there is a separate relic weapon grind for each expansion (aka each 10 levels from level 50 onwards). It's not worth doing during an expansion because crafted, extreme, tomestone, savage and ultimate weapons are better unless it's for an alt class that you don't play as much or you don't do raids. Once the expansion is over, it's no longer useful for stats and the reason to do it is for how it looks.

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That's a bummer, then. :( I think I started the quest line in HW, so it's like...Lv.50-ish, which is awful for my current level

So leves and specific fates are only part of the process for the level 50 relic. Just as each relic line is separate, each quest line is a bit different too. Everyones taste in glam is a bit different, but many of the best looking weapons are relics of one level or another.

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Originally Posted by Frizze

So leves and specific fates are only part of the process for the level 50 relic. Just as each relic line is separate, each quest line is a bit different too. Everyones taste in glam is a bit different, but many of the best looking weapons are relics of one level or another.

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Rad! That's good to hear they switch it up some, just grinding those same requirements 2 books in is...awful ;n;

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Originally Posted by Sworly

Like it says in the title, I'm wondering if I'm pissing in the wind when it comes to spending the gratuitous amount of time it takes to finish the Zenith weapon stuff, namely the Zodiac Braves tomes, when I'm Level 81 and it's somewhat less powerful than my prior weapon at the level I'm at. If anything, I mostly want this damn quest out of my Journal, but is there an advantage to finishing all of this (still need to finish the other 7 out of 9 books)?

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At that point the only reasons for finishing the level 50 relic quest are
Using finished weapon for glamour
A sense of accomplishment
Strong completionist tendencies
10 seconds worth of bragging rights


But no, it does not have any practical use at the point you are at.

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Originally Posted by MistakeNot

At that point the only reasons for finishing the level 50 relic quest are
Using finished weapon for glamour
A sense of accomplishment
Strong completionist tendencies
10 seconds worth of bragging rights


But no, it does not have any practical use at the point you are at.

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Lol. Yeah, the in-game achievements, if anything, might be worth dealing with it. Plus, it'd be silly to have done 2 books in and then just quit cold turkey.

Just know what you're getting into. The level 50 relic grind was a bit of a unique case, where devs were inclined to incorporate nearly every aspect of the game at the time into the process. After books, you will still need:

A supply of combat materia, grades 1-3. These can't be found from any vendors, and can run expensive on the MB because of it
Same step, will need to run many special level 50 treasure maps, either requiring Poetics, or a once-per-day quest (the item rewards can be bought with Allied Seals as well)
Grind for "light," which typically involves running the same low level dungeons a couple dozen times unsynced.
The penultimate step will cost 400,000 gil, 80,000 Company Seals, 800 Poetics, at a minimum. There is an additional step of purchasing and desynthesizing a set of items which can also get costly, all for materials to then craft specific level 50 items. If you don't have crafters leveled or otherwise can't be bothered, the finished products will be available on the MB, at an additional cost.
Plus one last step very similar to the "light" grinding, not quite as long, but still requiring a minimum of a dozen runs of whatever low level dungeon you're not sick of yet.

Personally, I wouldn't recommend trying to push through one weapon all at once. The whole thing is an incredibly tedious process, better to chip away at a little progress at a time, whenever you've got the energy, and step away before it completely drains you.

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

Just know what you're getting into. The level 50 relic grind was a bit of a unique case, where devs were inclined to incorporate nearly every aspect of the game at the time into the process. After books, you will still need:

A supply of combat materia, grades 1-3. These can't be found from any vendors, and can run expensive on the MB because of it
Same step, will need to run many special level 50 treasure maps, either requiring Poetics, or a once-per-day quest (the item rewards can be bought with Allied Seals as well)
Grind for "light," which typically involves running the same low level dungeons a couple dozen times unsynced.
The penultimate step will cost 400,000 gil, 80,000 Company Seals, 800 Poetics, at a minimum. There is an additional step of purchasing and desynthesizing a set of items which can also get costly, all for materials to then craft specific level 50 items. If you don't have crafters leveled or otherwise can't be bothered, the finished products will be available on the MB, at an additional cost.
Plus one last step very similar to the "light" grinding, not quite as long, but still requiring a minimum of a dozen runs of whatever low level dungeon you're not sick of yet.

Personally, I wouldn't recommend trying to push through one weapon all at once. The whole thing is an incredibly tedious process, better to chip away at a little progress at a time, whenever you've got the energy, and step away before it completely drains you.

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Good lord, that sounds like a nightmare ;n;

Yeah, I put it aside for now until I at least manage to finish up Stormblood first. Don't want to burn myself out on the least desirable aspects of the game

Being high level, you have the advantage of blitzing through most of your chosen dungeon hells in a matter of minutes solo unsynced, as long as you ignore all the treasure and paths and even all the trash mobs. Even still, repeating the dungeons enough will still eat up a couple/few solid hours of your time, and it is indeed mind numbingly tedious.

Every expansion has some manner of grindy quest for shiny weapons at each level cap, and yeah, they're all a bit of a chore to get through. But, for players at the time, there's often little else taking up their time once they've completed each expansion story.

As long as you've still got story to get through, that's usually the better focus. Some blue quests may still unlock new things that might be interesting to dip into. Tribal quests are easy daily sources of chunks of exp, good for jobs that aren't receiving all that juicy story quest exp. Optional dungeons/trials/raids can be a fun distraction. Among all manner of other non-combat options. But story quests are often considered "the good stuff" until/unless you're just looking for something different to do for a bit.