6.5 dissapointment

Hi, am i the only one that feels like this patch was smaller than usual? I used like 2 hours to Get it all done. I cant remember that the other patches were like that.
So little content. Im running out of things to do:( thats so sad bc i really like this game and wanna play it alot.

No, not really. Did you skip all the cutscenes, sidequests, the alliance raid, ex farm and Island Sanctuary ranking? I'm still farming pvp as well.

I didnt skip any cutscenes, i have done alliance raid questline, and Main questline, i think pvp is a bit boring and didnt like the rewards this time so i wont be doing a lot of that. i read the patch notes and couldnt find any more content apart from that stuff. What sidequests are you talking about?

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

No, not really. Did you skip all the cutscenes, sidequests, the alliance raid, ex farm and Island Sanctuary ranking? I'm still farming pvp as well.

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Are we really calling the 5-10m it takes to do IS content? Unless you want to sell your soul and manually grind out the levels, there's not much there to do.

As far as ex farm goes, doing them on patch isn't for everyone unless you like the pain of getting 100 PF groups together and 50/50 chance of even clearing it. Doing it when it's not current is faster and more efficient to get mount totems.

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

Are we really calling the 5-10m it takes to do IS content? Unless you want to sell your soul and manually grind out the levels, there's not much there to do.

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It still takes more a lot more than a week to complete unless you stocked up on 2 weeks worth of experience from the workshop and manually grind them out.

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As far as ex farm goes, doing them on patch isn't for everyone unless you like the pain of getting 100 PF groups together and 50/50 chance of even clearing it. Doing it when it's not current is faster and more efficient to get mount totems.

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It can be but is still content that was not done. There is also unreal that, while old content, is still fun. It feels like people are better at it now than in the past but that is probably the abundance of self-heals, abilities and extra mit like usual and red mages.

We can certainly argue "there isn't much midcore content" for people who don't do raid content, but otherwise there are still these things that keep other people busy for longer than 2 hours.

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Originally Posted by Rikizza

What sidequests are you talking about?

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The alliance raid is actually a side quest. There is also the Custom Delivery story. The other one I was thinking of was Tataru's Grand Endeavor but that isn't until 6.55 actually, so we'll have to wait for that.

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Originally Posted by Rikizza

Hi, am i the only one that feels like this patch was smaller than usual? I used like 2 hours to Get it all done. I cant remember that the other patches were like that.
So little content. Im running out of things to do:( thats so sad bc i really like this game and wanna play it alot.

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Been like that for a while now, maybe you didn't realized it because you had content from previous expansion to do before, but yes we don't get much things to do, would be ok if we had one major patch every 2 months (half of a patch every month) but sadly it's not the case.

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Originally Posted by Syln

Been like that for a while now, maybe you didn't realized it because you had content from previous expansion to do before, but yes we don't get much things to do, would be ok if we had one major patch every 2 months (half of a patch every month) but sadly it's not the case.

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Oh, Yea that makes sense. This is kind of sad imo. Dont other mmos have much more content added regularly? I feel like ffxiv is being left behind:(

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

It still takes more a lot more than a week to complete unless you stocked up on 2 weeks worth of experience from the workshop and manually grind them out.

It can be but is still content that was not done. There is also unreal that, while old content, is still fun. It feels like people are better at it now than in the past but that is probably the abundance of self-heals, abilities and extra mit like usual and red mages.

We can certainly argue "there isn't much midcore content" for people who don't do raid content, but otherwise there are still these things that keep other people busy for longer than 2 hours.

The alliance raid is actually a side quest. There is also the Custom Delivery story. The other one I was thinking of was Tataru's Grand Endeavor but that isn't until 6.55 actually, so we'll have to wait for that.

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Is the custom delivery story good? Havent done any of that bc it looked boring xD but yes i have done tataru grand endeavour.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

It still takes more a lot more than a week to complete unless you stocked up on 2 weeks worth of experience from the workshop and manually grind them out.

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A daily that takes 5-10m unless you want to no life it.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

It can be but is still content that was not done. There is also unreal that, while old content, is still fun. It feels like people are better at it now than in the past but that is probably the abundance of self-heals, abilities and extra mit like usual and red mages.

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A weekly.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

We can certainly argue "there isn't much midcore content" for people who don't do raid content, but otherwise there are still these things that keep other people busy for longer than 2 hours.

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If you want to grind them for hours, yes.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

The alliance raid is actually a side quest. There is also the Custom Delivery story. The other one I was thinking of was Tataru's Grand Endeavor but that isn't until 6.55 actually, so we'll have to wait for that.

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Alliance raid story can be done in an hour or two even without skipping cutscenes. Custom Deliveries is a weekly.


So, all we really got that can be done for daily consistent rewards and doesn't involve a spreadsheet is...new season of pvp?

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

A daily that takes 5-10m unless you want to no life it.



A weekly.



If you want to grind them for hours, yes.



Alliance raid story can be done in an hour or two even without skipping cutscenes. Custom Deliveries is a weekly.

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And if the daily were from field content people would call that content. Let's not be obtuse. It's simply a matter of what that daily happens to be not that it exists at all.

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Originally Posted by Rikizza

Oh, Yea that makes sense. This is kind of sad imo. Dont other mmos have much more content added regularly? I feel like ffxiv is being left behind:(

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Well there are a few aspects to that.

1. Games in this genre typically make content grindy and time-gated (FFXIV has this a bit but it's sort of optional, for example farming the extreme trial for the mount is not the same as having to farm it for gear required to progress the MSQ).
2. Typical gamer behaviour is to play a game's new DLC or patch content for a few days and then move on. A lot of gamers play for 2 hours after work as well. So it's clearly designed with that in mind so that the content can be done before they move onto another game's DLC.

I've never felt like other games have "much" content released, but rather the content that is released depends what you make of it. If you dismiss optional grinds then that's lots of the content dismissed as nothing.

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Originally Posted by Bonoki

And if the daily were from field content people would call that content. Let's not be obtuse. It's simply a matter of what that daily happens to be not that it exists at all.

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My point is that a lot of what we were given is stuff that is one and done unless you personally want to grind it further for x reason (weapon/totem farming from EX, rushing to rank 20 in Sanc, doing the alliance raid until your eyes bleed to try to get the minion, etc.)
- You plug in your weekly crafts in Island Sanctuary and then you're done.
- You do Faux Hollows/Wondrous Tails once a week and then you're done.
- You do the Alliance Raid once to get your gear piece and you're done.
- You do your allotted attempts for Custom Delivery and then you're done.

Would just like to see more optional content that provides incentive to log in more than once a week unless you want to do roulettes or get tomes for gear/relic.

Every MMORPG relies on players wanting to repeat existing content until the next content release is ready. It's not realistic to expect a constant stream of new content.

Other MMORPGs are no better than FFXIV in this respect. Some might have more frequent patches but they're more likely to be filled with bug fixes and UI updates than a decent amount of new content. If you think that's not true, then give those other games a try. Once you've caught up on all the content they previously released, you're going to find yourself disappointed by the amount of new content you're getting.

As for "spreadsheet" content. it's your choice to rely on a spreadsheet someone else has prepared instead of doing the content on your own and making your own choices. Was efficiency worth it when it came at the cost of fun and left you bored?

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Originally Posted by Rikizza

Hi, am i the only one that feels like this patch was smaller than usual? I used like 2 hours to Get it all done. I cant remember that the other patches were like that.
So little content. Im running out of things to do:( thats so sad bc i really like this game and wanna play it alot.

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The rest of the content is coming in 6.55. This is the normal amount of content for a patch. It's higher than normal actually since we're going to get crafter relics in 6.51 which should be next week and so far been coming out in the .X5 patches instead of the .X1. Did you literally just start playing in 6.4? It's been like this for years. The .X patch adds the raids and pretty much nothing else, the .x5 patch adds the side-content. Been like this since at least shb.

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Originally Posted by Arkdra

The rest of the content is coming in 6.55. This is the normal amount of content for a patch. It's higher than normal actually since we're going to get crafter relics in 6.51 which should be next week and so far been coming out in the .X5 patches instead of the .X1. Did you literally just start playing in 6.4? It's been like this for years. The .X patch adds the raids and pretty much nothing else, the .x5 patch adds the side-content. Been like this since at least shb.

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I have been playing for 2 years, but i didnt know that. I just recently started paying attention to the patches bc im running out of things to do.

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Originally Posted by Rikizza

I have been playing for 2 years, but i didnt know that. I just recently started paying attention to the patches bc im running out of things to do.

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Well then it's time to do your weekly alliance raid for a coin, start grinding pvp series experience, work on your island, endear yourself to Margrat, and after Tuesday, work on doh/l relics. Because that's the new stuff. Otherwise go back and start doing old content. 6.55 probably won't hit until January.

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Originally Posted by Rikizza

Hi, am i the only one that feels like this patch was smaller than usual? I used like 2 hours to Get it all done. I cant remember that the other patches were like that.
So little content. Im running out of things to do:( thats so sad bc i really like this game and wanna play it alot.

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This tends to happen with the X.5 patches being broken up into two parts. We'll probably get 6.55 after the EU fanfest so more stuff is coming. I just view it as a nice breather before I have to farm out the final manderville weapons and pvp

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Originally Posted by Arkdra

Well then it's time to do your weekly alliance raid for a coin, start grinding pvp series experience, work on your island, endear yourself to Margrat, and after Tuesday, work on doh/l relics. Because that's the new stuff. Otherwise go back and start doing old content.

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Yes i do most of that (except pvp and Island sanctuary bc it doesnt interest me) but i still think thats a bit too little content, i wish they added more cool questlines per patch or something. Oh well.

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Originally Posted by Rychu

This tends to happen with the X.5 patches being broken up into two parts. We'll probably get 6.55 after the EU fanfest so more stuff is coming. I just view it as a nice breather before I have to farm out the final manderville weapons and pvp

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Thats true

6.5 was about as small as all the others 6.x patches

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Originally Posted by Oizen

6.5 was about as small as all the others 6.x patches

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Still not as bored as I was in 2.5 but we aren't far from it.

No new raid tier patches always seem small to me, I don't enjoy alliance raids.
So it feels like we get a new dungeon and a trial, about it.

Am I surprised? Not really, I've been disappointed this entire expansion and felt not a lot of reason to play it outside social aspects.
I've just learnt to not over hype myself about any of it anymore, Even DT my expectations are pretty low.