Can we get better a vendor UI already?

With how much junk the game throws at you, the vendor (and retainer) UI is terrible... It takes forever to navigate and it's often very laggy.
Especially when you get into gathering and crafting, invetories fill up fast and managing and selling is a big hassle, eventhough many games have solved those issues years ago.

Am i the only one that is annoyed by this? Some more cynical people might say they leave it intentionally as is, to make you spend more time in the game.

For reference i went and sold a full inventory of junk, which i bet a lot of you can relate too, and it takes over a MINUTE, which i think is unacceptable. I get 4 errors in there as well :confused:

https://i.imgur.com/e1uQDNm.gif

I'm more impressed you managed to collect all that salvaged junk.

Yes please. Sometimes I use shops as an easier way to trash junk that has no value, clearing my inventory and it's so painful.

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Originally Posted by Cincierta

I'm more impressed you managed to collect all that salvaged junk.

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Or that some random vendor has over 400M gil to give away.

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Originally Posted by VictorSpoils

Or that some random vendor has over 400M gil to give away.

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Just realized the ending gil was 420,068,920. Just 628,049 short of that magical number.

skill issue /thread

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Originally Posted by Cincierta

I'm more impressed you managed to collect all that salvaged junk.

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That's easy to do when you own an entire housing ward with leveled up submarines.

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Originally Posted by ForgivenAvarice

For reference i went and sold a full inventory of junk, which i bet a lot of you can relate too,

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Yeah, I don't think so.

You know you don't have to wait until your inventory completely fills up.

How in the world did you get all that salvaged junk?

Someone really felt the need to humblebrag. This feels like a Stormpeaks alt to me. They love to brag about how housing isn't messed up because they were on the new worlds with tons of open housing that they bought up.

That is like enough gil to buy the entire Market Board of everything...

Imagine making every item listed to zero.

Wot next? U gonna ask for "Greed The Rest"/"Pass The Rest" button in roll menu, so u can ez Pass/Greed all unselected items? Or be able to Premark items in inventory as trash, so u can 1-click sell them later? Or maybe better chat channels, so we dont have to sit in NN, coz its only 1 global channel? And then, later, u gonna ask for something more complex, like working /tell in duty finder, or Cross-server weddings!?
Are u mad? This game ui supposed to mimic late 2000s experience, no QoL features allowed. Even new portrait system was implemented the way, to make u annoyed.

How is the game going to determine what is "junk" to you that you want sold versus what is valuable that you want to keep?

Most items in the game have a purpose beyond being sold to a vendor for gil. The Salvaged Accessories, Clear Demimateria and Allagan Pieces are the rare exception (along with probably a few others I can't think of off the top of my head). But even those some players would want to keep separate to use at Doman Enclave.

Without something that automatically differentiates the two, the wrong items might get sold while the right items are ignored.

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Originally Posted by ForgivenAvarice

With how much junk the game throws at you, the vendor (and retainer) UI is terrible... It takes forever to navigate and it's often very laggy.
Especially when you get into gathering and crafting, invetories fill up fast and managing and selling is a big hassle, eventhough many games have solved those issues years ago.

Am i the only one that is annoyed by this? Some more cynical people might say they leave it intentionally as is, to make you spend more time in the game.

For reference i went and sold a full inventory of junk, which i bet a lot of you can relate too, and it takes over a MINUTE, which i think is unacceptable. I get 4 errors in there as well :confused:

https://i.imgur.com/e1uQDNm.gif

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You realize that in the few frames between selling an item and rightclicking it shows that you're using a modded client, right?

You can use the controller and just spam X for it to trigger the first entry on the menu. You can also edit which menu option that is.

Skill. Issue.

Just wait for a plugin that fixes this to become really popular, get some people banned and then be actually implemented by the devs, only a matter of time.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

How is the game going to determine what is "junk" to you that you want sold versus what is valuable that you want to keep?

Most items in the game have a purpose beyond being sold to a vendor for gil. The Salvaged Accessories, Clear Demimateria and Allagan Pieces are the rare exception (along with probably a few others I can't think of off the top of my head). But even those some players would want to keep separate to use at Doman Enclave.

Without something that automatically differentiates the two, the wrong items might get sold while the right items are ignored.

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Besides marking obviously useless vendor items as junk, just allow players to mark items in their invetory as junk themselves and then add an option to "sell all junk" to vendors.
This technically wouldn't reduce the time you need to spend on inventory management but you at least wouldn't have to do it in the vendor menu.

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Originally Posted by Astrahime

You realize that in the few frames between selling an item and rightclicking it shows that you're using a modded client, right?

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Maybe if OP would actually play this game instead of mods, they would be able to play this game well.

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Originally Posted by ChonkGoblinSuprem

Maybe if OP would actually play this game instead of mods, they would be able to play this game well.

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lol ikr.
hidden achievements + 2 boosted jobs + 1 non-mandatory mount + ULTIMATE LEGEND BTW = alt that most likely also bought an ultimate clear


Edit: Anyway i reported them to the STF, and if they're irritating anyone else here i'd recommend doing so yourself. Pretty obvious case of breaking the user agreement.

https://imgur.com/gallery/zBHvaSJ

There is something way more annoying:
- crafting levequests.

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Originally Posted by Astrahime

lol ikr.
hidden achievements + 2 boosted jobs + 1 non-mandatory mount + ULTIMATE LEGEND BTW = alt that most likely also bought an ultimate clear


Edit: Anyway i reported them to the STF, and if they're irritating anyone else here i'd recommend doing so yourself. Pretty obvious case of breaking the user agreement.

https://imgur.com/gallery/zBHvaSJ

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To be fair, Ultimate Legend is the easiest one to get in PF. It is not at all difficult. It's the easiest one for an alt to get because it's basically free if you know what you are doing. I'm sure this person is up to some shady stuff, but I don't have any reason to accuse them of buying the simplest Ultimate to beat.

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Originally Posted by Bonoki

To be fair, Ultimate Legend is the easiest one to get in PF. It is not at all difficult. It's the easiest one for an alt to get because it's basically free if you know what you are doing. I'm sure this person is up to some shady stuff, but I don't have any reason to accuse them of buying the simplest Ultimate to beat.

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never said they RMT'd it, there are people that do 7man AFK carries of UCoB and UWU for absurd amounts of gil

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Originally Posted by Astrahime

never said they RMT'd it, there are people that do 7man AFK carries of UCoB and UWU for absurd amounts of gil

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I was commenting on this bolded part.

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Originally Posted by Astrahime

lol ikr.
hidden achievements + 2 boosted jobs + 1 non-mandatory mount + ULTIMATE LEGEND BTW = alt that most likely also bought an ultimate clear

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Originally Posted by Zeastria

There is something way more annoying:
- crafting levequests.

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Even without talking about turning in the same levequest 99 times to dump allowances, it needs a rework. Also thanks for the unintentional reminder, i'm at 37 allowances now so i should probably dump a few.

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Originally Posted by Bonoki

I was commenting on this bolded part.

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what they're doing is somehow more unethical than RMT for the health of the ingame market and economy, if they aren't already using the absurd amount of gil to be the seller in the RMT scenario.
SE needs to fix the housing system fully, you shouldn't be able to buy an FC house if any of your alts exist in an FC that one of your alts/main bought an FC house for. And track that across all worlds on the data center. Not just "Oh you can't buy an FC house right now, the alt that bought <FC1>'s FC house is still in <FC1>. Just make them leave and you're perfectly fine to buy an FC house for <FC2>!"

I just wish we had a proper sellback timer on stuff like tomes. That's really only one thing I wish they'd copy from wow which allows you to get back currencies on certain items for up to 2 hours (as well as letting you trade loot you get in dungeons/raids with people that participated for up to 2 hours).

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Originally Posted by Kaliesto

How in the world did you get all that salvaged junk?

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Pretty sure they have a lot of houses each with it's own FC. They then non-stop send out their Subaquatic Voyages which bring these items back.

I wouldn't be surprised if they own an entire ward or more of house plots. Hell, they even use mods which can be seen in the video they posted. Even if that account gets banned, they more likely have many more accounts.

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Originally Posted by Astrahime

lol ikr.
hidden achievements + 2 boosted jobs + 1 non-mandatory mount + ULTIMATE LEGEND BTW = alt that most likely also bought an ultimate clear


Edit: Anyway i reported them to the STF, and if they're irritating anyone else here i'd recommend doing so yourself. Pretty obvious case of breaking the user agreement.

https://imgur.com/gallery/zBHvaSJ

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I did as well.
No pity for any third party programs users.

In Wow, you can install an addon that automatically sells all your junk when you open a vendor UI.
I suppose SE could build in something similar. However, it might be more difficult here. because I don't think there's a trash item designation like in WoW, where the item name appears gray.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

I did as well.
No pity for any third party programs users.

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You do realize the third party program users probably make up a substantial amount of users nowadays. So much, in fact, SE would stand to lose millions if they ever did anything about it. In short, outside the OP outright exposing themselves, the STF won't do anything.

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Originally Posted by SamSmoot

In Wow, you can install an addon that automatically sells all your junk when you open a vendor UI.
I suppose SE could build in something similar. However, it might be more difficult here. because I don't think there's a trash item designation like in WoW, where the item name appears gray.

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There are only about 20 vendor trash items in the game (all the items that include "Exchangeable for gil" in their Item Helps). It would be easy enough to go off a list of item IDs.

lmao, someone suggests a better ui for a game that desperately needs a better ui and ends up getting shit on for ... having a lot of stuff?? and reported for mods that our pure and unmodded users were able to spot in a single frame somehow despite never using mods themselves of course
FANTASTIC community as always
clapclapclapclap

so a botter using a throw away account to rub in that they are ruining the game.. cool.

Really unbelievable…
This forum community is capable to shoot on their own feet just for the sake of the witch hunt against mods, when the topic was a user asking for a better inventory system.

Just unbelievable how far stupidity can go.

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Originally Posted by Jokerz_93

Really unbelievable…
This forum community is capable to shoot on their own feet just for the sake of the witch hunt against mods, when the topic was a user asking for a better inventory system.

Just unbelievable how far stupidity can go.

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The forums isn't commenting on the user for asking for a better UI. Infact they probably want it too. They are commenting on the user for their in poor taste clear use of questionable inventory that they themselves used in their video. They could have used any item to make a point. 50000 npc bought boiled eggs for example. But they didn't. The content of the video is now distracting from OP's point and question.

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Originally Posted by Bonoki

The forums isn't commenting on the user for asking for a better UI. Infact they probably want it too. They are commenting on the user for their in poor taste clear use of questionable inventory that they themselves used in their video. They could have used any item to make a point. 50000 npc bought boiled eggs for example. But they didn't. The content of the video is now distracting from OP's point and question.

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I think this has gotten overblown and people are being yet again needlessly hostile.


But the topic is something we already know and are stir clamoring and you didnt need to show us an animated gif with the most extreme example of inventory management anyway.

People need to sometimes let it go

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Originally Posted by Canadane

I did as well.
No pity for any third party programs users.

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You can't have been here longer than me and think that a small amount of people mod their clients.

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

lmao, someone suggests a better ui for a game that desperately needs a better ui and ends up getting shit on for ... having a lot of stuff?? and reported for mods that our pure and unmodded users were able to spot in a single frame somehow despite never using mods themselves of course
FANTASTIC community as always
clapclapclapclap

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Exactly. I completely missed it too. I mean, first of all, it was too fast. Second of all, I don't use mods so I didn't even know it existed. Yet somehow, someone who CLAIMS to be on the same modding experience I am knew EXACTLY what to look for and when?

There are a thousand things wrong with this dated game and its client and you all want to go after someone who wants to make things smoother. I would LOVE a mod that would actually fix these PS2 level graphics. Look at shadows. You can literally count the squares. Nevermind most of the armours and robes in the game. The minute curves and details are included, it's literally just squares touching corners on a very obvious level.

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Originally Posted by Bonoki

The forums isn't commenting on the user for asking for a better UI. Infact they probably want it too. They are commenting on the user for their in poor taste clear use of questionable inventory that they themselves used in their video. They could have used any item to make a point. 50000 npc bought boiled eggs for example. But they didn't. The content of the video is now distracting from OP's point and question.

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I don't have any problems with the UI or see the need for any changes. This is an extreme edge case, normal human players will never sell an entire inventory worth of items at once, and doing so in about a minute is not evidence of anything being wrong, a minute is a short period of time. This topic is like an absurdist parody of feedback, I can only assume there is some other genuine complaint that the OP is trying to make fun of. The fact that they're also humble bragging about how much gil they have and doxxing themselves as a cheater certainly doesn't help me take them more seriously, but if it was an inventory of eggs it would still be an equally ridiculous take.