This hairstyle (+outfit) situation has gone on long enough.

See title. I'm a huge fan of character designs similar to what both Ysayle from FFXIV and what Jill from FFXVI wear, so under normal circumstances I would have bought this latest Online Store addition not just once but multiple times for the several female alts I have. I don't really care for people to chime in saying it's just an ARR recolored robe, I like the flairs it has that make it unique. Except there's one glaring issue.

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I refuse to buy this outfit without the hair included. People have been giving the same feedback repeatedly through the years that we want longer hairs available but here we are and we can't get a hairstyle that was made all the way back in 2014? The same one that was at some point adapted to fit another model's head already for the DRK quests in Stormblood? I don't think this is acceptable especially when other games routinely allow players to have Ysayle/Jill length hair since character creation. See Lost Ark:

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I'm not really interested in excuses at this point either, it shouldn't take 10 years to figure out how to release hair like hers especially when female Viera already have base hairs that lean towards that sort of design. On this and many fronts, FFXIV needs to do better.

Sorry, they’re too busy remaking Super Mario RPG.

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Originally Posted by EgilTheStressedMage

Sorry, they’re too busy remaking Super Mario RPG.

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WAT.

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On topic:

More hair is always a good thing.

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The Ysayle (and Gaia) situation is the latest thing that makes me question what the hell is up with SE and the online store.

It's a no brainer that people wanted Ysayle's hair. Gaia, at least, is somewhat understandable, since her hair hasn't been adapted to other heads. However, Ysayle's obviously has that versatility, yet they decided to release an overpriced, undyeable outfit without her iconic locks.

I just...why? Because of clipping, despite the fact that everything clips in this game?

/rantover

And again, the sentiment among people is just. let. it. clip. So who knows where the feedback has gone despite it being posted all over social media and the forums for the past decade.

But for real, I just think they do not care what the community wants but what they want. It feels like they’re going “my game my rules”. I’m just waiting for the Meteion and Venat set which will not only be full but also one whole ass piece. For the former, there will another dyed black for a dollar more.

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Originally Posted by EgilTheStressedMage

It feels like they’re going “my game my rules”.

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Yeah unfortunately that also seems to be the case. For more situations than just this one. Hence why players have to rely on devs deciding to take things into their own hands like giving Viera and Hrothgar access to glasses back when the initial plan was to not even let them have that.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

Yeah unfortunately that also seems to be the case. For more situations than just this one. Hence why players have to rely on devs deciding to take things into their own hands like giving Viera and Hrothgar access to glasses back when the initial plan was to not even let them have that.

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And then of course there’s SE itself squeezing them for all non Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts projects. Like if the devs tried making those glasses and it meant the previous CEO being unable to buy a diamond encrusted golden yacht then it’s a hell no.

Did we need another thread about this? You couldn't just idk ad your opinion to the thread that's already 11 pages long about this topic? Or are you going to broaden the topic and not just discuss this outfit and the lack of the hairstyle that people associate with it?

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Did we need another thread about this? You couldn't just idk ad your opinion to the thread that's already 11 pages long about this topic? Or are you going to broaden the topic and not just discuss this outfit and the lack of the hairstyle that people associate with it?

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The confusing element of this is that there are already long-length hairstyles in the game - with 'Great Lengths' from the Gold Saucer probably being the longest.

So.... where IS the issue with adding more?

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

See title. I'm a huge fan of character designs similar to what both Ysayle from FFXIV and what Jill from FFXVI wear, so under normal circumstances I would have bought this latest Online Store addition not just once but multiple times for the several female alts I have.

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Yeah, I would really like to have Jill's outfit and hair on my character, but I would hope they make it attainable in-game (I'm probably huffing pure hopium at this point).

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Originally Posted by SannaR

Did we need another thread about this? You couldn't just idk ad your opinion to the thread that's already 11 pages long about this topic? Or are you going to broaden the topic and not just discuss this outfit and the lack of the hairstyle that people associate with it?

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Lol... I'm just gonna start blocking people who try to play forum police. I don't know why some forum members like this think they can decide when someone can or can't make a new thread.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

And again, the sentiment among people is just. let. it. clip. So who knows where the feedback has gone despite it being posted all over social media and the forums for the past decade.

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SE:
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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

And again, the sentiment among people is just. let. it. clip. So who knows where the feedback has gone despite it being posted all over social media and the forums for the past decade.

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Ignoring that we already have a thread on this same topic, I'm just imaging they release hair for RL money that clips and there not being any threads about it. How lazy clipping hair is and how they spent money for it? People say that now as they want the hair, but complaints would come.

That said for RL money the hair should absolutely be included, along with some effort to prevent clipping in as many outfits as possible. Because asking for $12 should take at least a modicum of effort on their part, and more than what they are giving for the asking price..

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

That said for RL money the hair should absolutely be included, along with some effort to prevent clipping in as many outfits as possible. Because asking for $12 should take at least a modicum of effort on their part, and more than what they are giving for the asking price..

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This is the main reason why it annoys me so much. It's insulting that they would list it as $12 with so little effort put into it.
Also, missed opportunity to get her hair. Still crying about that ;_;.

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Originally Posted by KitingGenbu

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Yes Iceheart and Jill are a little frosty thanks for noticing.

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Originally Posted by SannaR

Did we need another thread about this? You couldn't just idk ad your opinion to the thread that's already 11 pages long about this topic? Or are you going to broaden the topic and not just discuss this outfit and the lack of the hairstyle that people associate with it?

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He can post what he wants, or does he need to ask for your permission ? Hmm ? Are you in charge of approving threads around here ?

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Originally Posted by Swordsman

Yeah, I would really like to have Jill's outfit and hair on my character, but I would hope they make it attainable in-game (I'm probably huffing pure hopium at this point).





Lol... I'm just gonna start blocking people who try to play forum police. I don't know why some forum members like this think they can decide when someone can or can't make a new thread.

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Cause it's just cluttered and the OP is the same as a certain troll in where they enjoy their own voice. That and thread lengths are important to the OP as they have in the past used it as a crutch to try and prove how popular an opinion is or isn't.

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Originally Posted by SannaR

Cause it's just cluttered and the OP is the same as a certain troll in where they enjoy their own voice. That and thread lengths are important to the OP as they have in the past used it as a crutch to try and prove how popular an opinion is or isn't.

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Feel free to ignore them then, he doesn't owe you anything you are not in charge of forum posts.

As an aside, I'd very much like to see Hien's hairstyle - and stubble - made available for male characters. I think it's kind of strange that some of the NPC outfits come with NPC hairstyles and others do not.

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Originally Posted by FenyxRising

Feel free to ignore them then, he doesn't owe you anything you are not in charge of forum posts.

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You can feel free to ignore her. You aren't in charge of forum posts.

General forum decorum means you don't make your own topic about the same thing that's already being discussed. But you are the same person who does just that. You even posted in the other topic that was already active begging people to go to your thread. Sad!

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Originally Posted by Theodric

As an aside, I'd very much like to see Hien's hairstyle - and stubble - made available for male characters. I think it's kind of strange that some of the NPC outfits come with NPC hairstyles and others do not.

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Agreed. Stubble or 5 o'clock shadow would be cool.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

As an aside, I'd very much like to see Hien's hairstyle - and stubble - made available for male characters. I think it's kind of strange that some of the NPC outfits come with NPC hairstyles and others do not.

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I do wonder why his outfit didn't come with his hair as I want to say his outfit came out after Aymeric's outfit which does come with his hair. I would be up for it if they released hair they made available with the few outfits that have them as a separate item for a "cheap" amount. As many would just buy the hairstyle. Especially the ones that aren't gender locked.

There are hair styles in the game right now that already clip with everything.
So many pieces of armor have these static, rigid capes that clip with not only your weapon, but any tailed race will just have that shit clip right through it.

So their aversion to long hair and not including hair styles with paid micro transactions now seems to be more laziness than anything else.

No reason to put effort into a product when you know it'll sell anyway. The Endwalker motto.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

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It would take effort for them to release a hair, more than just copy+paste on the outfit. So no hair. Probably no hair anyway though, due to some fake quality control towards longer hairs (more like one less thing to work on with an excuse).

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Originally Posted by Swordsman

Lol... I'm just gonna start blocking people who try to play forum police. I don't know why some forum members like this think they can decide when someone can or can't make a new thread.

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Seems like a very good idea to improve your forum browsing experience.

My Tail clips through 99.9% of all Gears. If Clipping was the issue with not giving the Hair to folks who want it, they would have to rip a hole into every piece of equipment on Miqos to support that claim.

Honestly one of the most out of touch decisions for whomever runs the Mogstation store. Im sure its them trying to prey on the dumb players whom dont realize the outfit is a standard ARR gear piece.

I suppose the only real benefit of the mogstation version of Ysayles outfit is that its a lv.1 item with no role restrictions which the in-game version are only usable by mages I believe.

But thats both a total fail of the current games glamour system (seriously, give us unrestricted glamour so we can avoid problems like this) and the fact they couldnt at least added in her hairstyle as a bonus for the outfit.