Overhaul the Achievement Point Shop

I was reading through one of the troll threads to sift for actual discussion(yes, I know it's bad - but there's still ideas to be had), and came upon someone talking about Achievement Points essentially being useless after getting everything.

It doesn't even take a whole lot to get it all, either. I'm sitting on somewhere around 1k+ points that essentially will never see the light of day because there aren't enough rewards as someone said in that same thread I looked at.

It's probably time to overhaul it and make those points usable - not for Muh-tear-ree-ah(I'm staring at you Variant Dungeons...) or fireworks, but for things that are tied to the leveling experience - or even glamour for that matter!

For instance, you could buy:

- Gear that's appropriate for your level, if you've been lacking in terms of iLv(helps move you along HW onward)

- Glamour unique to Achievement Point Shop(not the glamour that you get from completing Achievements)

- Hairstyles

- MORE MINIONS

- Event Orchestrion Rolls/Glamour(You already have enough glamour on the Mogstation, SE)

- EMOTES(INCLUDING TIMED EXCLUSIVE EMOTES)

- Mounts



There is literally a lot they could just shove in there and have people use their Achievement Points on. They just have to shove it in there and make it more accessible! They can even make some things cost a lot of Achievement Points if they want considering that there's a ton to do in the game, and if there's something to strive for, you'll have people engaging in different content than the simple combat content.

I really want them to consider this because as it is right now, it's pretty bad given that veterans who have gotten the sub rewards(which are in the Achievement Shop atm) don't have much to spend their points on and they just sit there.

A limited range of cash shop items would be nice. Maybe just the consumable items like dyes and Fantasias. Housing items and old event rewards if they're feeling generous.

most of the stuff in there is just the stuff we'd get for being subbed. the system used to give a lot more goodies but i guess as the years went on it became obvious to square it'd make more sense to sell stuff for irl cash, discontinued it and stuffed it into that NPC.

which also is weird because a lot of achievement stuff you just get given to you from the achievement window itself. i suspect the dude in gridania is just a vestige of what remains of how it might've functioned before they opted for the achievement window instead.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

A limited range of cash shop items would be nice. Maybe just the consumable items like dyes and Fantasias. Housing items and old event rewards if they're feeling generous.

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Dyes and Fantasias seem like the best way to go. They are useful regardless of character progression and a player may want multiple of them unlike orchestrion rolls, minions and mounts which are only used once.

Let me spend achievement points for Gold and Silver Feathers, so I can get some of those items. Everyone I know who'd be into the game already plays it, so those are all out of reach for me.

The achivement point shop was originally just a bandaid.

They'd made the rewards for subscription's take too long to get all of them, so they pulled those out, put them into the achivement points, and then started that over again.

They've once again maxed out how long they are willing to make the subscription rewards take.... and should dump those into the achivement point store again... but they won't.

All kinds of things could end up there, but that would require work from departments that already don't have free time.

Lets face it, people won't start playing again, or start playing, just because that shop has a few more items, and anything less won't make them do it.

Anything would be an improvement, even if it's just recolors of existing mounts, minions, fashion accessories and glamor gear. Dump a whole lot of items there and don't make them all dirt cheap. Something has to cost a large amount, otherwise why do we have some many certificates.

They made achievement points to certificate currency a 50:1 ratio, so 25K points gives you 500 certificates to spend. They only add like 4 certificates worth of rewards every couple of years. What do I do with the hundreds I have remaining?

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Let me spend achievement points for Gold and Silver Feathers, so I can get some of those items. Everyone I know who'd be into the game already plays it, so those are all out of reach for me.

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I would take this.

Really close to breaking into the top 100 achievement points for my server, and it's just so sad seeing that I have nothing to dump these certificates on.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Let me spend achievement points for Gold and Silver Feathers, so I can get some of those items. Everyone I know who'd be into the game already plays it, so those are all out of reach for me.

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That would be a good idea. The recruit-a-friend campaign would still have its own drawcards (the emote, EXP circlet and specific mount) but there would also be another way to get feathers for the secondary rewards, especially since some of those are consumables. That would also merge with my earlier suggestion to add dyes from the cash shop to the achievement shop, since you can exchange gold feathers for those.

(A silver-to-gold feather exchange would be nice too. I got ten silver feathers for moving servers, but all I can buy with them is gear up to Cryptlurker level, and I already had all of my characters at 80 before I moved. It feels a waste to just exchange them for ultimately a few company seals.)

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Let me spend achievement points for Gold and Silver Feathers, so I can get some of those items. Everyone I know who'd be into the game already plays it, so those are all out of reach for me.

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This is a fantastic idea!

Honestly I'd just turn it into the nostalgia costume shop. Fill it with glamours of past FF characters or go further and make it costumes of characters from every SE title/franchise. Granted certain ones will likely still end up as either a mogstation purchase or tied to an event. However there's still a huge list of popular characters out there that were not the poster character of their respective games people want glamours for.

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

Honestly I'd just turn it into the nostalgia costume shop. Fill it with glamours of past FF characters or go further and make it costumes of characters from every SE title/franchise. Granted certain ones will likely still end up as either a mogstation purchase or tied to an event. However there's still a huge list of popular characters out there that were not the poster character of their respective games people want glamours for.

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I mean… XIII Attire set(Cash Shop), X attire(FAN FEST EXCLUSIVE BEFORE PUT IN CASH SHOP), and the list goes on. Some of the cash shop items are so old that they could easily sell for a large chunk of points. It’s a matter of managing your balance of course since achievement points are limited.

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

Honestly I'd just turn it into the nostalgia costume shop. Fill it with glamours of past FF characters or go further and make it costumes of characters from every SE title/franchise.

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Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima

I mean… XIII Attire set(Cash Shop), X attire(FAN FEST EXCLUSIVE BEFORE PUT IN CASH SHOP), and the list goes on.

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I'm not sure where your cash shop list "goes on" to, because I don't think there are any other FF-not-XIV character outfits in there.

Character outfits come from a mixture of sources here, not just veteran rewards and the cash shop.

We have Fran's outfit as starter gear, forever locked to female Viera; Balthier's and various Tactics characters/jobs as RNG-dependent loot drops from Orbonne; other FFXII characters freely purchasable from Zadnor; FFIV-inspired Moonward tome gear; Iroha and Noctis outfits from seasonal events that repeat rather than moving to the cash shop. Apparently a number of late Heavensward/Stormblood era gearsets are based on other FF/SE characters as well but I don't have a direct list.

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

Honestly I'd just turn it into the nostalgia costume shop. Fill it with glamours of past FF characters or go further and make it costumes of characters from every SE title/franchise. Granted certain ones will likely still end up as either a mogstation purchase or tied to an event. However there's still a huge list of popular characters out there that were not the poster character of their respective games people want glamours for.

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At the least, maybe we could get Tifa, Riona, and Garnet sets to go with the existing Cloud, Squall, and Zidane.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Let me spend achievement points for Gold and Silver Feathers, so I can get some of those items. Everyone I know who'd be into the game already plays it, so those are all out of reach for me.

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Yes please! I was the late one to the party in my friend group too, and I really want the Twintania mount!

Along with this, the Veteran Rank rewards could use another tier… I think I’ve been on 4 for years now. Really they could have used the Iceheart outfit for something like that… it’s just an undyeable reskin with a fancy belt. lol

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Originally Posted by Iscah

A limited range of cash shop items would be nice. Maybe just the consumable items like dyes and Fantasias. Housing items and old event rewards if they're feeling generous.

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I don't know if they'd do Fantasia since I imagine that's the item they make the most money from.

But dyes, I don't even know why those are in the cash shop (even if they can be obtained in game). Those being in the vendor would be a dream come true... granted I'm speaking as someone who's addicted to buying pots of jet black dye, but still. Kind of tired of seeing how many points I got and having nothing to use those on.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

At the least, maybe we could get Tifa, Riona, and Garnet sets to go with the existing Cloud, Squall, and Zidane.

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Would the Tifa glamour come with un-nerfed melons? >.> lol

Though I think the cloud costume was from Advent Children so it would probably be her outfit from that same movie.

And yeah some characters outfits were turned into gear sets. However there's still a lot of characters that had their own outfit that hasn't been touched. I think most of the cast of FF6 falls in that category.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I'm not sure where your cash shop list "goes on" to, because I don't think there are any other FF-not-XIV character outfits in there.

Character outfits come from a mixture of sources here, not just veteran rewards and the cash shop.

We have Fran's outfit as starter gear, forever locked to female Viera; Balthier's and various Tactics characters/jobs as RNG-dependent loot drops from Orbonne; other FFXII characters freely purchasable from Zadnor; FFIV-inspired Moonward tome gear; Iroha and Noctis outfits from seasonal events that repeat rather than moving to the cash shop. Apparently a number of late Heavensward/Stormblood era gearsets are based on other FF/SE characters as well but I don't have a direct list.

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There's a lot they can do with the shop. As I said in the OP, they just need to add things. ANYTHING. Even if it's something stupid. I don't care as long as we can get usage out of the achievement points since it's been dead for years.

Achievement tokens are the most underutilized thing in this game IMO.

If you add enough incentive/reward behind it, then you can get people doing the most inane things for rewards - You wouldn't even be funneling people into a single subset of content, you'd be encouraging players to literally do anything. It's nice they added the two Adventurer Plates from Fishing, but... They only cost 2 points, and the requisite for actually unlocking them as an option... Well... You get more achievement tokens from actually unlocking it than is required. It just seems like a bit of a... Farce.

Something like an adventurer plate should cost between 10-20 tokens per, and they should expand it to include trading for Gold Chocobo feathers, in addition to mounts, minions, treasure maps, and fashion accessories... I can only hope that their escapade with the fishing ones was a token and testing the waters, but the future rewards need to cost more and include greater variety.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Let me spend achievement points for Gold and Silver Feathers, so I can get some of those items. Everyone I know who'd be into the game already plays it, so those are all out of reach for me.

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I ended up getting mine by posting the codes here(well, the original one):

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...read-2/page135

It did take a few months for them all to be used, but it got me all the items from the Recruit a Friend stuff.

I'd actively go for more achievements that don't have rewards, if the currency of those points were good for stuff like the OP is suggesting.

The idea of leveling gear is specially tempting. I'd love to have more items that scaled up all the way to the latest leveling earring, because it's quite expensive to keep refitting every handful of levels.