Aetheryte Plazas

It's my understanding that with 2.0, the cities themselves aren't changing much. The one thing I would request or at least hope they consider changing, is the Aetheryte Plazas.

Everyone has seen the original 1.0 trailer, where the trio of Elezen, Miqo'te and Hyur were in what appeared to be the adventurer's guild getting some levequests. In the center of this area was a large crystal, reminiscent of our current Aetheryte.

I would like to see the city Aetherytes moved to make such a location. Currently they are tucked away into a corner of each city. Not really a centralized location. I'm not saying put them in the Adventurer's Guild, but take Ul'dah for example:

The current Aetheryte is on the edgewall of the city. The middle of the city would make a fabulous place for the crystal, and it could even be increased in size. Don't get me wrong, the fountain is neat and all, but the Aetheryte would fit so much better there. It's a central location in the city.

If the Aetheryte Plazas could be something more than they are now, like a centralized hub for people to gather at, I think that would really add to the feel of the game.

Just a thought, considering 2.0 will allow more than 40 characters to be loaded onscreen.

http://i.imgur.com/qcUgx.jpg

yea let the devs waist their time on that, plis...

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Originally Posted by Limonconcon

yea let the devs waist their time on that, plis...

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Way to be the cancer of this forum and give us all your "contribution"

On the subject now: yes! That would definitely be something I would like to see and I feel like it would add a lot of life to the cities. It's a shame more won't be immediately done after 2.0 =(.

I agree with this! Thought I would get that in before catching some zzz's Night ya'll! :D

yeah I also think Aetheryte should be more central

Immersion wise, yes, great idea.
Server/Load wise, could be a problem. It would drastically increase the population in that one location.

Things would need to be moved around (i.e., the adventurer's guild moved out of that location to somewhere else).

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Originally Posted by Asiaine

Immersion wise, yes, great idea.
Server/Load wise, could be a problem. It would drastically increase the population in that one location.

Things would need to be moved around (i.e., the adventurer's guild moved out of that location to somewhere else).

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Perhaps the new Aetheryte Plaza could double as the Adventurer's Guild when the update comes? At the least, you could put the Levequest counter there.

Then simply change the Hourglass, the Mizzenmast and the Roost to regular Inn/Tavern locations.

I imagine that was the plan to start with considering each levquest center has a good chunk of "White space" that could have been where a aether crystal could have been housed.

I imagine server load issues arose soon after development hit full pace moving the plaza to another location with nothing to do other than it's specified task. Who knows if 2.0 will allow more people in the area before it starts to buckle.

Agree'd I'd love the game to have a lot more atmosphere, the CS/CG always feel amazing, then you load into an area or a fight and it goes from epic to 3 random mobs, no nps doing things/fighting in the background.
This is along the same lines as what the OP is saying imo, so I would Def back this kind of change :D

I really hope that all the City's, hamlets and camps are made to look a whole lot more like well city's, hamlets and camps.
Even if its just background fluff we cant get too, atm (yes I'm saying it again) the whole area feels like its the size of N.Ireland and a city is more like a camp/outpost then the hub of an area.

Sorry for being abit off topic! But when i started reading this thread i thought it was going in a different direction.

When you said citys would not be remade, and you talked about Aetheryte plazas. I started immagine how there was small plazas/towns outsides citys, much like our Aetheryte camps we have now, but alittle bit bigger.

They where very beautiful to look at, and they had NPCs walking around, doing their thing, a kid playing with a ball.
A guy in the corner who liked to gamble. A carpenter working a roof. A shepperd doing his thing.

There was a Inn with a bar, and in the middle of it there was a Aetherite, much like the picture you had. Here you could retrieve generic quests, not as rewarding nor as fun as the rest of the quests, that you would find from the town NPCs. But you could do them quick when you had little time.

The NPCs of these towns/plazas would need help with various stuff, bigger stuff, harder stuff. Like killing the beast who is roaming up in the mountain near the town.

//wakes up from day dreaming

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Originally Posted by Asiaine

Immersion wise, yes, great idea.
Server/Load wise, could be a problem. It would drastically increase the population in that one location.

Things would need to be moved around (i.e., the adventurer's guild moved out of that location to somewhere else).

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Really?
Now people not stay all in Zone A near Ul'dah's Aetheryte?


Like!

the current locations of the plazas are ok. Near the market wards.

Umm...but the cities will be changed in 2.0

Let me try and find that concept art of Gridania where it looks like a circular hub and the aetheryte plaza is in the middle, like a town square.


EDIT: Here we go

http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joy...cobo-ranch.png

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Originally Posted by Limonconcon

yea let the devs waist their time on that, plis...

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Not a waste of time I it makes the game better. I agree w OP

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Originally Posted by Meow_Zedong

Umm...but the cities will be changed in 2.0

Let me try and find that concept art of Gridania where it looks like a circular hub and the aetheryte plaza is in the middle, like a town square.


EDIT: Here we go

http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joy...cobo-ranch.png

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Well, I don't think that's happening.

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Originally Posted by E3 Interview with Yoshi-P

Currently a region will consist of 4-5 areas. The standard size of each zone will roughly be 1×2 kilometers. With the large changes we saw to Thanalan right outside of Ul’dah we wanted to know how the cities would be impacted by the events of 2.0. Changing the layout of the cities would require a lot more development cost, however they are looking to tweak the existing maps to make them more convenient and adding things like new paths to make it easier to get around or having it so you can select a location when you exit an area. Other than that the city maps won’t change that much.

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Originally Posted by Catriona

Well, I don't think that's happening.

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This cant be Gridania, this mustbe a town in Blackshroud? Quest hub?

Look at the thrice obvious sign.
That's a chocobo ranch, sheesh.

However, I do really wish they'd move the Aetherytes to a more scenic and central place! Of course they'd need to jigger the server structure because they obviously know that everyone will gather around the aetheryte, market ward and inn exit, but I've faith they'll take that into account.

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Originally Posted by Catriona

Well, I don't think that's happening.

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Thats not a City. As Yoshi mentioned in a E3 Interview they will add a lot of "Outposts". This is most likely one of them.

It kills me that the cities are remaining the same.

I really want to have GC headquarters that reside in real buildings. After all, these things are supposed to be the focal point of each city, but they are tucked away in an alley with the market wards??

Even if they have to be in a separate zone, at least give them the appearance of a unique structure from the outside.

GC HQ's technically do reside in real buildings, you just can't walk to it lol. Either way though, it's definitely a step behind it's predecessor. Bastok had it's Metalworks, Windurst had it's Star Tree, Jeuno had Ru`lude Gardens, Sandoria had it's Cathedral and Palace and Aht Urghan was similar to what XIV is like, but XIV was being produced around that time period which is why they cheaped out on it.

They do have a small appearance like going to Maelstrom you can see the flags and whatnot but given that there will be 'Free Companies' for players at some point in 2.0, it's likely GCs won't be central post Umbral Era events.

As shown in one concept art, the atheryte is smack dab in the middle of the cities now (It has benches and everything):

http://qqreporter.com/wp-content/upl...6-1024x648.jpg

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Originally Posted by AsterBarnivere

As shown in one concept art, the atheryte is smack dab in the middle of the cities now (It has benches and everything):

http://qqreporter.com/wp-content/upl...6-1024x648.jpg

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I didn't see any captions on this piece. Is this confirmed to be Gridania?

Also, still doesn't look like it's in the center of the city, but that's not a requirment. If this is actually a preview of new Aetheryte Plazas, that would be great.

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Originally Posted by Alerith

I didn't see any captions on this piece. Is this confirmed to be Gridania?

Also, still doesn't look like it's in the center of the city, but that's not a requirment. If this is actually a preview of new Aetheryte Plazas, that would be great.

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Apparently it is. If you look through other concepts of 2.0 you'll see a railway going through (What possibly looks like Limsa) and the achievement NPC (Osirus or whatshisname) talks of a railway as well.

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Originally Posted by Meow_Zedong

Umm...but the cities will be changed in 2.0

Let me try and find that concept art of Gridania where it looks like a circular hub and the aetheryte plaza is in the middle, like a town square.


EDIT: Here we go

http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joy...cobo-ranch.png

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Aetheryte Plazas need to be more centralized... it's because of the poorly designed cities why everyone now resides in Uhglah, er... I mean Uldah.

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Originally Posted by AsterBarnivere

As shown in one concept art, the atheryte is smack dab in the middle of the cities now (It has benches and everything):

http://qqreporter.com/wp-content/upl...6-1024x648.jpg

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Oh gawd yes, this would be the reason to return to Grid. It could be part of Grid but atleast is not one big ant farm or rat-maze!

I wouldn't worry about server issues and population and characters... just look at some of the camps. We're just talking about three cities and two of 'em going unused.

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Originally Posted by PSxpert2011

Aetheryte Plazas need to be more centralized... it's because of the poorly designed cities why everyone now resides in Uhglah, er... I mean Uldah.



Oh gawd yes, this would be the reason to return to Grid. It could be part of Grid but atleast is not one big ant farm or rat-maze!

I wouldn't worry about server issues and population and characters... just look at some of the camps. We're just talking about three cities and two of 'em going unused.

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Brings me back to FFXI and Windurst *Shudder* NOBODY went there because it was a damn maze and took so long to get from point A to point B, and San'D'Oria/Jeuno/Aht Urghan were the most populated places in my server

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Originally Posted by AsterBarnivere

Brings me back to FFXI and Windurst *Shudder* NOBODY went there because it was a damn maze and took so long to get from point A to point B

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Many people didn't know that with the tele-tarus Windurst was actally one of the fastest cities to get around in due to the Mog-house entrances rarely being far away from central points.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Many people didn't know that with the tele-tarus Windurst was actally one of the fastest cities to get around in due to the Mog-house entrances rarely being far away from central points.

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I used the tele Tarus alot (still sucked though) lol

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Originally Posted by Meow_Zedong

Umm...but the cities will be changed in 2.0

Let me try and find that concept art of Gridania where it looks like a circular hub and the aetheryte plaza is in the middle, like a town square.


EDIT: Here we go

http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joy...cobo-ranch.png

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The picture is named "Chocobo Ranch".

Well.. It only makes sense. I mean, the Artherytes are the center of damn near every other location they are present ;v (Okay, maybe not literally)
At least it would give the plaza a purpose, and be more convenient when teleporting in.

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Immersion wise, yes, great idea.
Server/Load wise, could be a problem. It would drastically increase the population in that one location.

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only problem making one area like this.
well hopefully this new server can handle it

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Originally Posted by Limonconcon

yea let the devs waist their time on that, plis...

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Who pooped in your cornflakes?

Something that I have always wished was more similar to the movie is the lightbox table used to display the leves. Right now we have the hideously boring list of leves. Why not zoom in to the lightbox and show us them laid out like the cards they are supposed to be?

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Originally Posted by Alerith

It's my understanding that with 2.0, the cities themselves aren't changing much. The one thing I would request or at least hope they consider changing, is the Aetheryte Plazas.

Everyone has seen the original 1.0 trailer, where the trio of Elezen, Miqo'te and Hyur were in what appeared to be the adventurer's guild getting some levequests. In the center of this area was a large crystal, reminiscent of our current Aetheryte.

I would like to see the city Aetherytes moved to make such a location. Currently they are tucked away into a corner of each city. Not really a centralized location. I'm not saying put them in the Adventurer's Guild, but take Ul'dah for example:

The current Aetheryte is on the edgewall of the city. The middle of the city would make a fabulous place for the crystal, and it could even be increased in size. Don't get me wrong, the fountain is neat and all, but the Aetheryte would fit so much better there. It's a central location in the city.

If the Aetheryte Plazas could be something more than they are now, like a centralized hub for people to gather at, I think that would really add to the feel of the game.

Just a thought, considering 2.0 will allow more than 40 characters to be loaded onscreen.

http://i.imgur.com/qcUgx.jpg

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Excellent idea. I always felt the center of Ul'dah should've contained an aetheryte and the middle of Gridania's adventurer's guild itself should contain an aetheryte (and I'd bet that's how it was supposed to be, as the idea makes me think of that intro video).

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Originally Posted by Limonconcon

yea let the devs waist their time on that, plis...

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Let the devs decide what to waste their resources and time on.

i remember when i saw that trailer and thought has awesome this game was gonna be.....

then it was released.

at least its getting better! and i think an aetheryte plaza would be cool..

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Originally Posted by indira

only problem making one area like this.
well hopefully this new server can handle it

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As is, if I'm not mistaken, you already teleport into only one of the two Ul'dah sub-servers (or whatever they are), no?
I thought it covered the plaza and the entrance to the market wards

Lag would be a problem.
Ul'Dah is bad already with the Aetheryte far from the Adv Guild/Stairs

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Originally Posted by Meow_Zedong

Umm...but the cities will be changed in 2.0

Let me try and find that concept art of Gridania where it looks like a circular hub and the aetheryte plaza is in the middle, like a town square.


EDIT: Here we go

http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joy...cobo-ranch.png

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Umm...that's not a concept of Grid.