Feedback: Don't put more furniture in the PvP shop/Make PvP furniture tradable

It can only be traded by giving someone else permission to edit/place furniture in your personal/FC house.

The furniture costs 3000 for just towels, 5000 each for the Chocobo Chair and two tables, 7500 for each of the banners.

Music rolls cost 5000/10000 each, yet can be traded. And they very slowly adds more music over time, that can also still be traded/sold on the market.

I personally don't understand this, more so when certain types of furniture are super limited in theme (And how SOME items of those themes are cash shop only with them never having bee able to be obtained in game during an event as far as I'm aware)

And it's such a stupid small list of furniture that's in the PvP shop, it's just a bad idea to put anything else there, even more so if they can't be traded/sold on the market like music rolls.



And yes, I'm saying this because I'm working on decorating my house and have had people offer to sell me the items, but because they're on different servers they can't be given housing permission to deposit the chairs/tables that I need.

Actually no, they need to put more rewards behind PvP, in fact they should bring back t100 rewards again. Also put untradeable furniture etc. behind Savage, Criterion, Ultimates. Exclusivity is a good thing. Having something you can brag about to others in an MMO is a good thing. If you don't like that, then work for it, get better at the game and earn those items.

thank u, next

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Originally Posted by Bacent

If you could sell them on the marketboard, like the more expensive music rolls (Double the price of most of the furniture), then I wouldn't have an issue. But thank you for your scalding hot take.

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Absolutely not, prestige furniture should not be allowed to be sold. Imagine if you can sell an Ultimate weapon on the market board ? That devalues it even more than it currently already is (because of bought clears)

thank u, next

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...#Miscellaneous

Actually I just looked up what you're talking about, I thought it's the top 1 exclusive furniture, but actually you're talking about something that can just be bought for 5000 Wolf Marks ? Which is just 5 Frontline matches (and the weekly challenge log gives you 2000 too if you play 3 I believe). You can't even do 5 Frontlines ? You're complaining about having to do 5 Frontline matches ? Sorry no your request should be rejected, there is not even any discussion to be had here.

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Originally Posted by FenyxRising

Actually no, they need to put more rewards behind PvP, in fact they should bring back t100 rewards again. Also put untradeable furniture etc. behind Savage, Criterion, Ultimates. Exclusivity is a good thing. Having something you can brag about to others in an MMO is a good thing. If you don't like that, then work for it, get better at the game and earn those items.

thank u, next

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If you could sell them on the marketboard, like the more expensive music rolls (Double the price of most of the furniture), then I wouldn't have an issue. But thank you for your scalding hot take.

I'm fine with them adding more housing items to PvP. Those who prefer PvP should have consistent ways to make gil through their content so they can get other things they want to buy, such as glamour.

It would be nice if they could be traded normally though. It's pointless to have them untradeable/unmarketable when that's easily circumvented through tenancy.

I was trying to decorate my house and needed Towels and Chocobo Chairs. I was actually annoyed I had to take a break from decorating to be interrupted by having to grind Wolf Marks for a while. It took a couple hours just to get a single item. I'm all for them adding more rewards to the PvP store but furniture is one of those repeatable things that I tend to come back for and don't realize I need them until I do. I mean, who would really keep 6 Chocobo Chairs in storage not knowing if they will eventually need it? I'm sure some do if they already bought them beforehand.

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Originally Posted by Remish

I was trying to decorate my house and needed Towels and Chocobo Chairs. I was actually annoyed I had to take a break from decorating to be interrupted by having to grind Wolf Marks for a while. It took a couple hours just to get a single item. I'm all for them adding more rewards to the PvP store but furniture is one of those repeatable things that I tend to come back for and don't realize I need them until I do. I mean, who would really keep 6 Chocobo Chairs in storage not knowing if they will eventually need it? I'm sure some do if they already bought them beforehand.

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Oh no, I have to play the game in a video game !

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Originally Posted by FenyxRising

Oh no, I have to play the game in a video game !

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Hmm I am a bit confused. Is decorating not playing the game in a video game to you? Does grinding for gil and crafting materials to decorate my house not count as sufficiently playing the game while decorating?

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Originally Posted by FenyxRising

Oh no, I have to play the game in a video game !

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I think he has a point. We should put the Towels behind Ultimate content. You should have to really work for everything you get no matter how minor it is.

It's a quest reward and not a difficult one to get. Much faster and/or easier to get than some gemstone decos, beast tribes or even the Doman Enclave ones.

Or find a friend that does pvp and has a house who can add you as tenant for a few minutes (or more) to exchange decos. I wouldn't mind if we could put them on the MB though but it's fine as it is. All you need to do is join a few frontlines (you can also convert crystals from Malmstone series to Wolfmarks)

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Originally Posted by FenyxRising

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...#Miscellaneous

Actually I just looked up what you're talking about, I thought it's the top 1 exclusive furniture, but actually you're talking about something that can just be bought for 5000 Wolf Marks ? Which is just 5 Frontline matches (and the weekly challenge log gives you 2000 too if you play 3 I believe). You can't even do 5 Frontlines ? You're complaining about having to do 5 Frontline matches ? Sorry no your request should be rejected, there is not even any discussion to be had here.

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I'm saying there's no reason to have the furniture be untradeable when more expensive collection items are. So yes, there is a discussion to he had here, if you're done spewing forth your bile.

Also you're talking about roulettes specifically. Doing a match and having a much higher chance at not getting first affects your wolf mark gain.

You can trade 1000 Trophy Crystals for 1 Wolf Collar. And 1 Wolf Collar for 4000 Wolf Marks. But if you're at a higher PvP Series Malmstone then it takes a while to get that as well, more so if you've spent those previously before having a private house to actually decorate.

So you talking about 'Prestige Furniture' is kind of beyond moot here. That stuff is stuck to stuff you have to get from the mog station, if it's even items that were brought back there and aren't just allowed to fade into oblivion.

But I won't be engaging with you further if you keep saying stuff like 'thank u next' while trying to entirely dismiss what someone else is saying while acting high and mighty, so good day to you.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

I'm fine with them adding more housing items to PvP. Those who prefer PvP should have consistent ways to make gil through their content so they can get other things they want to buy, such as glamour.

It would be nice if they could be traded normally though. It's pointless to have them untradeable/unmarketable when that's easily circumvented through tenancy.

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Mounts, obviously yeah some need to be kept locked in certain places to draw newer people into doing certain content to get them, same for some glamour. But I've never understood the thought of 'Lets put untradeable FURNITURE in PvP' when there's really no point into that stuff being untradeable (Unless it's on the mog station or something cause past event stuff)

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Originally Posted by Remish

I was trying to decorate my house and needed Towels and Chocobo Chairs. I was actually annoyed I had to take a break from decorating to be interrupted by having to grind Wolf Marks for a while. It took a couple hours just to get a single item. I'm all for them adding more rewards to the PvP store but furniture is one of those repeatable things that I tend to come back for and don't realize I need them until I do. I mean, who would really keep 6 Chocobo Chairs in storage not knowing if they will eventually need it? I'm sure some do if they already bought them beforehand.

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The daily reward is nice and all, but after that you get a ton less wolf marks each day. You can turn trophy crystals into wolf marks (1000 Trophy Crystals for 1 Wolf Collar. And 1 Wolf Collar for 4000 Wolf Marks) but if you're at a high enough series malmstone then even that takes a while if you've spent them getting glamour elsewhere/ect.

When people get a house in game, they don't want to have to stop and grind a ton for just a single item in a limited content type shop, more so when it's PvP, something a lot of the playerbase doesn't want to touch because IT's XIV PvP

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Originally Posted by Toutatis

It's a quest reward and not a difficult one to get. Much faster and/or easier to get than some gemstone decos, beast tribes or even the Doman Enclave ones.

Or find a friend that does pvp and has a house who can add you as tenant for a few minutes (or more) to exchange decos. I wouldn't mind if we could put them on the MB though but it's fine as it is. All you need to do is join a few frontlines (you can also convert crystals from Malmstone series to Wolfmarks)

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What specifically are you saying is a quest reward?

And if the IN GAME furniture (Not mog station) is basically tradeable by being a tenant in someone else's house, why does it need to be untradeable?

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Originally Posted by Bacent

more so when it's PvP, something a lot of the playerbase doesn't want to touch because IT's XIV PvP

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You literally admit that you don't want to do anything and just want furniture handed out to you

thank u, next

"please put it on the marketboard so i dont have to do anything in the game"

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Originally Posted by AlexiaD

"please put it on the marketboard so i dont have to do anything in the game"

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You're absolutely right. They should take EVERYTHING off the marketboard and put it behind all of the content. Nobody should be able to buy anything. Everything should be grinded for.

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Originally Posted by AlexiaD

"please put it on the marketboard so i dont have to do anything in the game"

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I'm posting this after doing multiple runs of Frontline roulette each day for a couple weeks and getting low rewards because usually getting last place, even if I attempt to give shoutouts/attempt to try to get people work together. So kindly assume elsewhere.

So Bacent as you said earlier "When people get a house in game, they don't want to have to stop and grind a ton for just a single item in a limited content type shop, more so when it's PvP, something a lot of the playerbase doesn't want to touch because IT's XIV PvP"

I'm curious, what if the housing items were locked behind PVE content, let's say a raid series, that had to be run? Still with the same MB restrictions, still with the same gain per week? Would you still have the same objections?

Personally, I would not- although I would find it less interesting since there are already so many ways to do PVE in the game. However, I would say that if people want a specific item for a house, where many items are available on the MB, it isn't unreasonable to be asked to do something in- game to acquire it.

However your other objection is that "a lot of players don't want to touch it because it's PvP" - I don't know how many people actually do participate in PVP. Whether you like PvP or not is up to you. What I can say is that I have no issue whatsoever in that the game ties some rewards to PvP. Personally, I find the rate that WM and collars can be earned to be very reasonable, if you want to come up with a better rate, fair enough, although I doubt it will go far.

I haven't got an opinion on this yet. I'll get back to you when Zepla uploads her next video and tells me what to think about it.

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Originally Posted by Remish

I mean, who would really keep 6 Chocobo Chairs in storage not knowing if they will eventually need it?

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I am feeling called out.

Hmm.

Meanwhile over here Idk what to spend my Wolf Marks for cause I’m drowning in them outside Squadron Rationing Manuals because I’ve long gotten everything that I want from the vendors.

Crystal Trophies too…