So, how does the japanese community feel about the game's current state?

They're our forum neighbors, and statistically, there should be some lurker here that can read their Discussion topics. Do they have any issues with the game? Are they aware of what we discuss here?

I know Asian MMO design is usually focused on fixing the issues their country playerbase has before even considering global feedback, but being SE they might as well just go ahead and ignore everyone.

That said, some perceived issues from our DCs might not be an issue for them because of their culture; I mean, people this side often complains about pugging for EX and Savage, yet in Japan using DF for both is common as it's expected you will watch a guide and know how to play your class before jumping in.

They spend quite a bit less time pontificating at each other that’s for sure…

More seriously my general understanding is that it’s less acceptable to consistently request small / less consequential changes (i.e ‘bitching about things’ lol), and superficially there’s seems more to be more accepting of the game for what it is than what it should be, which I guess is another cultural thing.

They’re also infinitely more ruthless and vicious about things they do hate, however. Like, sending death threats to the main office kind of vicious lol (though this wasn’t for ffxiv).

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Originally Posted by Aldath

They're our forum neighbors, and statistically, there should be some lurker here that can read their Discussion topics. Do they have any issues with the game? Are they aware of what we discuss here?

I know Asian MMO design is usually focused on fixing the issues their country playerbase has before even considering global feedback, but being SE they might as well just go ahead and ignore everyone.

That said, some perceived issues from our DCs might not be an issue for them because of their culture; I mean, people this side often complains about pugging for EX and Savage, yet in Japan using DF for both is common as it's expected you will watch a guide and know how to play your class before jumping in.

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They are dissatisfied with the state of the game too. Actually on 2ch it's even more vicious. There you go.

From my understanding, they do more of their critiquing and criticizing elsewhere like on social media, other forums, and anonymous greentext sites, i.e. places their accounts aren't linked to. (◍´͈ꈊ`͈◍)
I am kind of fatigued that whenever there's discussion or discourse, we have to go "well, what do the JP players think? They're the only ones the devs care about." I know/hope that that's not the case but still... (ಠ3ಠ)

They maybe have some of the same complaints that we do but think it's a necessary evil in exchange for not having cross continent DC travel and PF.

I can't find the right website, I keep finding russian 2ch.

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I can't find the right website, I keep finding russian 2ch.

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Here you go: Link (ﾉ´ヮ´)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧

Thank you! How accurate is google translate?

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Originally Posted by Akibaws

Thank you! How accurate is google translate?

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I’ll admit I shamefully do sometimes check out the JP forums with Google translate. While it does seem…convincing (lol), from what I’ve seen I feel like a lot of nuance to what’s said is lost through translation, which can sometimes affect the meaning of the post. That said, there’s also nuances to the translation, and I can’t rightly say how truly ‘accurate’ it is.

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I’ll admit I shamefully do sometimes check out the JP forums with Google translate. While it does seem…convincing (lol), from what I’ve seen I feel like a lot of nuance to what’s said is lost through translation, which can sometimes affect the meaning of the post. That said, there’s also nuances to the translation, and I can’t rightly say how truly ‘accurate’ it is.

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My friend says it's accurate enough to understand what is being said but not accurate enough to capture a tone in text.

https://find.5ch.net/search?q=ff14

Here's a 5ch query of FF14 related threads.

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Thank you! How accurate is google translate?

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Your mileage will vary based on the way the particular user you're translating writes. A lot of slang, and even some non-slang, is going to look like total gibberish. A fun example is automatic translators being unable to differentiate between Saba(Server) and Saba(Mackerel).

DeepL might do slightly better, but it has a limit to how much you can translate.