Rival Wings needs more incentives to play

The que pops in less than five minutes during the day. This is proof that we NEED more incentives to use it.

Obviously PVP has to be an alternative way to earn gear that isn't just part of the PVP unlock experience. The moggle tomes work, so do this with normal tomes. Offer more of them for completing PVP. People will queue for pvp more if you make more incentives.

Honestly I just avoid it because I don’t really know how to play it (think I tried it literally once) and no one I know plays it to teach me. And normally queue times are horrible because no one is running it. But maybe I’ll throw myself into it and try while the Moogle event is going on.

We could use some more stuff for Wolf Marks and even some more for Trophy Crystals too. I’ve been maxed on Wolf Marks pretty much since they started the whole series rewards, and there’s nothing new to spend them on.

I like Rival Wings. It's basically "destroy enemy base tower" as fast as possible to win. I wish they'd add it to "Daily Challenges" in Duty Finder roulette, because it's really not that hard of a game, and it's just 1v1 team rather than 1v1v1 like Frontline.

Personally I don't find dota style games where NPC's are mixed in with players fun because that's not pvp to me, but the mode absolutely should have a roulette to get more people to play it/try it.

What? I’ve been enjoying the MOBA mini games, but do you mean it pops quickly just because of the irregular tomestones?

We already get like 400k regular XP each match. I wish I’d realized that earlier, would have saved me a lot of time leveling.

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Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra

Honestly I just avoid it because I don’t really know how to play it (think I tried it literally once) and no one I know plays it to teach me. And normally queue times are horrible because no one is running it. But maybe I’ll throw myself into it and try while the Moogle event is going on.

We could use some more stuff for Wolf Marks and even some more for Trophy Crystals too. I’ve been maxed on Wolf Marks pretty much since they started the whole series rewards, and there’s nothing new to spend them on.

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There are existing player resources (i.e, a Discord), not to mention multiple posts that explain how RW functions. If you access the Discord, you would also find that you would also find information on queue times as well , and that there are often times when queues are reasonable.

I used to promote adding it to the roulette, but given how that's affected FL, I would rather have it maintained the way it is - aside from adding bad the map that is still under maintenance.

Agree with you completely regarding WM and TC, they really should expand the vendor list.

The only time it pops a "regular" amount is if Duty Commence is going to be running it or moogle tomes drags people in there. Otherwise it normally is a one day a week thing for a short amount of time. At least on Aether. It has no roulette though only having one of the two maps available it wouldn't be much of a roulette. I also feel that the time I am in there no one seems to pay attention to what the status of the towers are as I get teams that are about the train and nothing else. To the point where by the time anyone says anything about trying to stop the other team it's way too late.

Yes you can get the same type of thing happening in Frontlines where no one is paying attention to the score or looking at the map. Yet with the new UI I feel there's been more focus lately and it's rare that you get people who get really irked at others going for other objectives. You know unless the team seems to be allergic to home base big ice or something similar. They also need to give people more things to spend wolf marks and trophy crystals on.

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Originally Posted by SannaR

The only time it pops a "regular" amount is if Duty Commence is going to be running it or moogle tomes drags people in there. Otherwise it normally is a one day a week thing for a short amount of time. At least on Aether. It has no roulette though only having one of the two maps available it wouldn't be much of a roulette. I also feel that the time I am in there no one seems to pay attention to what the status of the towers are as I get teams that are about the train and nothing else. To the point where by the time anyone says anything about trying to stop the other team it's way too late.

Yes you can get the same type of thing happening in Frontlines where no one is paying attention to the score or looking at the map. Yet with the new UI I feel there's been more focus lately and it's rare that you get people who get really irked at others going for other objectives. You know unless the team seems to be allergic to home base big ice or something similar. They also need to give people more things to spend wolf marks and trophy crystals on.

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If you're interested in joining more often (i.e. outside of events) , as I said there's a Discord that has a great deal of information regarding DCs and RW strategy.

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Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas

If you're interested in joining more often (i.e. outside of events) , as I said there's a Discord that has a great deal of information regarding DCs and RW strategy.

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I know how to play it. I just don't enjoy how I feel when playing it. As when I do it the community gives off the same feel as the Frontline matches where you get that one driver/leader who gets mad at those who are trying to contest the team with the most points while the rest feed the 2nd place or who are trying to go for other points when an S node is being fought over with no clear winner for some time. Or those Crystaline Conflict matches where most of your team would rather be off in a corner trying to kill one guy and not helping you to push the Crystal or trying to stop the other team from pushing it further during overtime. I do understand how important the train can be. Yet I also know that can't be an entire team's focus as the other team will always take advantage of your team's neglect.

You just need to embrace the chaos…. Open Team PvP is always a s***show.

Without knowing too much, I’d say I agree- I did rival wings one single time and haven’t really felt the pull to do it again.

So…yeah, bring on the incintives!

My favourite PVP mode that I don't get to play because of no queues. Such a shame.

Why does everything need to have more and more "incentives" and "rewards"? Why can't a game be played for the simple enjoyment of the game itself? It gets tiring hearing people parrot some asinine talking point from a "cOnTeNt CrEaToR" as if it was the gospel truth without ever stopping to think about it. Maybe the reason people never queue Criterion Dungeons, or people never queue Rival Wings outside of Mogtome events is because of the "consensus" of the NPC hivemind. It's the same reason for the "everybody DC travels to Aether" dilemma. Maybe the game isn't the problem, maybe the players are the problem.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

The moggle tomes work, so do this with normal tomes. Offer more of them for completing PVP. People will queue for pvp more if you make more incentives.

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If they do that, then they should only give more tomes for winning. Otherwise people will just do nothing or try to loose as fast as possible to grab the tomes.

Oh, nice. Necromancer's made it to the game. Is it just a new summoner class or is it a unique forum only class?

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Originally Posted by Darkobra

Oh, nice. Necromancer's made it to the game. Is it just a new summoner class or is it a unique forum only class?

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What are you even talking about bro the thread was only made a few days ago?

The only way forward is just add more maps and then they can make a roulette out of it. But that's much further out considering the dedication to frontline.

Add an anti-cheat or I'll continue to pretend PvP doesn't exist.

I've seen the speed hacker videos and complaint comments about them doing it for months.

I dont like the system it has .. with npcs and other bots. I don't think it would matter what Incentive they gave, I won't do it. Frontlines are horrible yes but I can make do with it since its only players. I would much rather them add in a capture the flag pvp or "king of the hill" type one instead of doing anything with rival wings

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Originally Posted by SquishyPlushie

Add an anti-cheat or I'll continue to pretend PvP doesn't exist.

I've seen the speed hacker videos and complaint comments about them doing it for months.

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You mean the-one-that-shan't-be-named but everyone knows that guy that speedhacked with oppressor but didn't get banned and keeps playing? :rolleyes:

You know, I'm about as far from a pvp person as you can get, but I have to admit, despite my 30% win rate over 25 odd games of Rival Wings over the past few days, I'm starting to have a bit of fun lol. I'm leveling warrior while I do it (MORE XP please), but the rewards other than xp are pretty darn good right now. And it's casual enough that it doesn't really matter if I win or lose, I'm still getting decent rewards. If they want non pvpers to give it a shot, this is what they need to do more often.