Producer and director "you're on a vacation but you can't go in the water"

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08-17-2023, 04:20 AM
Amnmaat

Producer and director "you're on a vacation but you can't go in the water"

Let's add a new town hub full of water but prevent players from diving into the water.
GW2 on the other hand has allowed you to dip your toes in any body of water since its launch; whether in towns or not.

Again I ask, outside of msq what is cbu3 good at? Such a basic feature should be a baseline feature. Even in old realm reborn/heavensward maps they should let you swim on water.

We have to get beyond his PR speak, this game's stagnating.
08-17-2023, 04:38 AM
Mcg55ss

Wonder how long till this ones banned from the forums
08-17-2023, 04:41 AM
Kranel_San

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Originally Posted by Amnmaat

Again I ask, outside of msq what is cbu3 good at? Such a basic feature should be a baseline feature.

They're just been carried right now by the nightclubs and mods players. Without which this game won't really have that many players around.
08-17-2023, 05:47 AM
Destati

I hope they change their mind on this. I remember when Rhalgr's Reach had that nice area to swim in and I used to hang out there all the time. They really dialed back on swimming in Endwalker which was disappointing to see. But to not have a place to swim in the new hub flat out SUCKS.
08-17-2023, 05:50 AM
TheMightyMollusk

Have you ever smelled the water in a busy harbor? You really wouldn't want to go swimming there.
08-17-2023, 05:54 AM
Renalt

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Have you ever smelled the water in a busy harbor? You really wouldn't want to go swimming there.

I'm sure there is some sort of magic...aether...water...filter thingies or something.
08-17-2023, 07:02 AM
Hurlstone

Is this about Sharlayan ? Have to say swimming there never even crossed my mind. That said, hope we get more of it and diving in Dawntrail. We have the 'forever breath underwater' mcguffin. Lets use it more!
08-17-2023, 07:40 AM
True-to-Caesar

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Have you ever smelled the water in a busy harbor? You really wouldn't want to go swimming there.

I agree with you but this is a game that already lacks a lot in exploration department. It’s total void.
Swimming and discovering hidden places and treasures would have been interesting but they can’t be bothered with the lands so imagine underwater exploration…
08-17-2023, 09:26 AM
Alexandre_Noireau

XIV doing something relatively innovative?
Not a chance.

But hey, remember, Yoshi-P saved this game.
08-17-2023, 09:31 AM
Reap00

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Originally Posted by Amnmaat

Let's add a new town hub full of water but prevent players from diving into the water.
GW2 on the other hand has allowed you to dip your toes in any body of water since its launch; whether in towns or not.

Again I ask, outside of msq what is cbu3 good at? Such a basic feature should be a baseline feature. Even in old realm reborn/heavensward maps they should let you swim on water.

We have to get beyond his PR speak, this game's stagnating.

Your trolls are stagnating. This isn't even close to interesting. Try harder.
08-17-2023, 09:41 AM
Iscah

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Originally Posted by Destati

They really dialed back on swimming in Endwalker which was disappointing to see. But to not have a place to swim in the new hub flat out SUCKS.

There aren't a lot of places in Endwalker where it's logical to swim.

We get a nice big ocean area in Thavnair, which is the only place where it really makes sense. Sharlayan's main harbour doesn't sound like a sensible swimming spot, and the other zones don't feel like places that I'd want to swim.

The only place in Endwalker where I ever thought "I want to swim here but can't" is the unique zone created for the Zone 6 gathering tribe quests. They could have made it a practical thing with spearfishing nodes or something, but really just an excuse to put a big lake in there.

Also, while it's not the most exciting of locations, they've gone back and added swimming to Bronze Lake in La Noscea so they may be working on upgrading other areas too. (Surely diving in Costa del Sol would have to become a thing sooner or later?)

As for Dawntrail, I think they said in the keynote that we will be getting some nice places where we can swim.
08-17-2023, 10:11 AM
AnnRam

Same as

"The game gives you 30000 mounts to collect and also you can buy deluxe ones for 40 usd on mog store"
"upps can't use them on towns/dungeons or mayor hubs because muh small indie company!!!!! PLEASE UNDERSTAND, we have can't remake old cities from 2012.. b-but here watch this new mount for 49.99!!!!! hypeee!"
08-17-2023, 10:18 AM
Remish

I wish we could just swim in more places. I don't really care if they are a harbor or not.
08-17-2023, 10:26 AM
Jeeqbit

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Originally Posted by Amnmaat

Even in old realm reborn/heavensward maps they should let you swim on water.

They made a start with Upper La Noscea and Eastern La Noscea, but I would like other locations such as the Isle of Umbra.
08-17-2023, 11:11 AM
Renalt

This reminds me I need to look around and see if there is a public pool nearby. I need to get back into swimming. Also gives me an excuse to try to work on not being a pale ghost and get some more reading done.
08-17-2023, 01:31 PM
Destati

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Originally Posted by Iscah

There aren't a lot of places in Endwalker where it's logical to swim.

We get a nice big ocean area in Thavnair, which is the only place where it really makes sense. Sharlayan's main harbour doesn't sound like a sensible swimming spot, and the other zones don't feel like places that I'd want to swim.

The only place in Endwalker where I ever thought "I want to swim here but can't" is the unique zone created for the Zone 6 gathering tribe quests. They could have made it a practical thing with spearfishing nodes or something, but really just an excuse to put a big lake in there.

Look, I love video game water. If I see it, I want to swim in it. (I blame Destiny Islands from KH1 for instilling that in me.) If an invisible wall keeps me from pretty water, I will go feral.
When I saw it snowing in Sharlayan I was a bit less salty about not being able to swim in the harbor or the rivers going through town because I suppose it would have been "too cold for that", whatever.

But then there's a spot in Garlemald - freaking GARLEMALD - where you can swim. Not dive, granted, but the fact that I was able to go in the water without an invisible wall stopping me there blew my mind and consequently gave me the mindset of, "if I can swim here, then there's no reason why I shouldn't be able to anywhere else". So now I'm looking pointedly at that pretty spring in Coerthas Western Highlands.

There were a few swimming spots in UT which were neat to have. Not overly practical, but I appreciate them being there all the same. The water biome in Elpis should have had some deeper swimming spots there instead of having the audacity of being entirely ankle deep. That green stuff on the moon that you fish from? I don't know what that is but I still would have liked to swim in it. If not there then the Lopporitts could have made a proper pool.

Like... not every spot has to have diving cause I get they essentially have to make another "zone" for that, but... just let us swim.
08-17-2023, 01:46 PM
RitsukoSonoda

You want to know why they don't want us going into the water?

It's because there are no fingerprints underwater, nothing to tie one to a crime, and if you seek vengeance, all you need are instruments of pain...
08-17-2023, 05:04 PM
Soge01

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

You want to know why they don't want us going into the water?

It's because there are no fingerprints underwater, nothing to tie one to a crime, and if you seek vengeance, all you need are instruments of pain...

"Till Sea Swallows All!"
08-17-2023, 05:31 PM
TheMightyMollusk

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

You want to know why they don't want us going into the water?

It's because there are no fingerprints underwater, nothing to tie one to a crime, and if you seek vengeance, all you need are instruments of pain...

All the more reason to go into the water. Live there. Die there.
08-17-2023, 06:00 PM
Renalt

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

You want to know why they don't want us going into the water?

It's because there are no fingerprints underwater, nothing to tie one to a crime, and if you seek vengeance, all you need are instruments of pain...

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

All the more reason to go into the water. Live there. Die there.

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08-18-2023, 12:30 PM
RitsukoSonoda

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Originally Posted by Renalt

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Hmm... This has raised a question... Since Disney apparently wants to remake all their stuff as "politically correct" live action movies... does that mean the Kingdom Hearts series is now dead?
08-18-2023, 12:45 PM
Hurlstone

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

Hmm... This has raised a question... Since Disney apparently wants to remake all their stuff as "politically correct" live action movies... does that mean the Kingdom Hearts series is now dead?

Well KH4 is in development so unlikely. When it comes to Disney stuff I doubt they will suddenly switch to the 'live action' stuff, as nostalgia is a big part of why people enjoy those worlds, and if memory serves most of the remade films have already appeared ingame via their animated selves.
08-18-2023, 05:26 PM
TheMightyMollusk

Kingdom Hearts is too profitable to die.
08-18-2023, 05:38 PM
Tanis_Ebonhart

Eh. FF14 is overall better than GW2. I've played every major MMO on the market over the years and FF14 deserves its crown.
08-18-2023, 06:08 PM
Asphhar

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Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart

Eh. FF14 is overall better than GW2. I've played every major MMO on the market over the years and FF14 deserves its crown.

To each their own but, out of all the major MMOs I'd argue FFXIV is the worst one atm.
I'd barely even call FFXIV an MMO at this point, it's more of a hub based dungeon crawler now.
08-18-2023, 10:10 PM
Tanis_Ebonhart

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Originally Posted by Asphhar

To each their own but, out of all the major MMOs I'd argue FFXIV is the worst one atm.
I'd barely even call FFXIV an MMO at this point, it's more of a hub based dungeon crawler now.

WoW is the worst, as they actively hate their players and have been bleeding them for a reason. It's so bad that a third of their subs would rather play the old versions of the game.

Gw2 just didn't interest me. Story is mid at best.

Eso is all about the crowns.

Lost all? Dead. We'll deserved death.

Bdo makes the WoW Token look sane.
08-18-2023, 10:17 PM
Shinkuno

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Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart

WoW is the worst, as they actively hate their players and have been bleeding them for a reason. It's so bad that a third of their subs would rather play the old versions of the game.

Gw2 just didn't interest me. Story is mid at best.

Eso is all about the crowns.

Lost all? Dead. We'll deserved death.

Bdo makes the WoW Token look sane.

You are delusional. Hope you get at least paid for the shilling you do on the forums.
08-19-2023, 12:15 AM
Nebelheim

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Originally Posted by Shinkuno

You are delusional. Hope you get at least paid for the shilling you do on the forums.

They seem to just go in any thread to look for any complaint or negative feedback then tell people 'at least we don't have it as bad as wow"
08-19-2023, 12:30 AM
Shinkuno

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Originally Posted by Nebelheim

They seem to just go in any thread to look for any complaint or negative feedback then tell people 'at least we don't have it as bad as wow"

If "a third of the playerbase plays classic" and since classic is smaller than retail but still has a sizeable playerbase that means retail is like 2 times the size of FF14. He doesnt even realize he shittalked FF14 :P
08-19-2023, 12:31 AM
Oizen

They're pretty good at hallways and invisible wall simulators.
08-19-2023, 12:58 AM
Nebelheim

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Originally Posted by Shinkuno

If "a third of the playerbase plays classic" and since classic is smaller than retail but still has a sizeable playerbase that means retail is like 2 times the size of FF14. He doesnt even realize he shittalked FF14 :P

wow still has a bigger playerbase then ff14 so they must be doing something right or at least trying to fix any bad will they built up over the years. I give them credit that at least there trying to course correct even though it might be too little too late while ff14 remains the same for 10 years with possibly no changes to the formula for the next 10 years they plan on supporting ff14.