FF7R inspired MSQ: Please stop

Although I am aware that it is too late to change much about the plot and zones of 7.0, I urge the developers to consider carefully whether taking inspiration from FF7R is truly needed in any capacity.

Yoshi P has said that they want to do a huge collab with FF7R, more than a simple seasonal event. This rang many alarm bells, not least because the last one that we had, with Nier:Automata, presented us with a story that did not integrate with FF14's world and lore.

There are now rumors that the new expansion's story is FF7R-inspired. Although the chance is low, if this is the case: Please stop.

We do not need Fate Whispers in FF14 defending Erenville from being killed by Sephiroth.

We do not need random Sephiroth Echo flashbacks with absolutely no context through the MSQ.

We do not need Krile to begin as a flower girl but then magically tell us all about what the Whispers are out of nowhere with no explanation (although, lately Y'shtola is basically filling that role of the Great Explainer).

We do not need irrelevant and obnoxious villains like Roche who serve absolutely no purpose other than wanting to fight, because quite frankly we are sick and tired of budget Zenos clones.

We do not need to see Papalymo come back to life in another timeline because we managed to defeat the Whisper bosses as the Lv100 boss in the MSQ.

If the 7.0 MSQ is really FF7R-inspired as the rumors suggest, I guarantee you Square Enix, you will lose half of your playerbase.

I don't really know how it can be FF7-inspired. We'd need Shinra Inc (which is the Garlean Empire in this game) but we finished them off.

We would need a climate change crisis like in FF7 and real life that is caused by burning fossil fuels. We could argue we are burning too much Ceruleum (which is aether), but it was mostly the garleans doing that I think unless the people in the blue mage story have been using it a lot too. We could argue this aether was being burned another way, by primal summoning, but we already solved that.

It starts to look like we would need to visit another shard to find these circumstances.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

I don't really know how it can be FF7-inspired. We'd need Shinra Inc (which is the Garlean Empire in this game) but we finished them off.

We would need a climate change crisis like in FF7 and real life that is caused by burning fossil fuels. We could argue we are burning too much Ceruleum (which is aether), but it was mostly the garleans doing that I think unless the people in the blue mage story have been using it a lot too. We could argue this aether was being burned another way, by primal summoning, but we already solved that.

It starts to look like we would need to visit another shard to find these circumstances.

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Sadly that may be the case.

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Is it like a requirement or something to end all new posts with "if they do/don't do x then they'll lose x amount of player base".
It's starting to just read like copy pastas.
In terms of if it's ff7r inspired, I honestly don't care. The story can be good (or bad) regardless if it pulls in elements of another game or not. I'll judge it once it's actually out.

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Originally Posted by TheNight

Although I am aware that it is too late to change much about the plot and zones of 7.0, I urge the developers to consider carefully whether taking inspiration from FF7R is truly needed in any capacity.

Yoshi P has said that they want to do a huge collab with FF7R, more than a simple seasonal event. This rang many alarm bells, not least because the last one that we had, with Nier:Automata, presented us with a story that did not integrate with FF14's world and lore.

There are now rumors that the new expansion's story is FF7R-inspired. Although the chance is low, if this is the case: Please stop.

We do not need Fate Whispers in FF14 defending Erenville from being killed by Sephiroth.

We do not need random Sephiroth Echo flashbacks with absolutely no context through the MSQ.

We do not need Krile to begin as a flower girl but then magically tell us all about what the Whispers are out of nowhere with no explanation (although, lately Y'shtola is basically filling that role of the Great Explainer).

We do not need irrelevant and obnoxious villains like Roche who serve absolutely no purpose other than wanting to fight, because quite frankly we are sick and tired of budget Zenos clones.

We do not need to see Papalymo come back to life in another timeline because we managed to defeat the Whisper bosses as the Lv100 boss in the MSQ.

If the 7.0 MSQ is really FF7R-inspired as the rumors suggest, I guarantee you Square Enix, you will lose half of your playerbase.

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You imply that half the playerbase cares about MSQ, sorry to break your bubble, they dont. I'll gladly trash talk the game issues that are ongoing right now, but MSQ is not one, nor are they going to lose half the playerbase because of it. Good bait thread though

I kind of dislike bullshit/absurdly convoluted story coming from Nomura.

That being said, what's telling you that it will be a thing ?

As long as the dungeons trials and raids are good, as well as the music, I will have no qualms with it even if the story is mediocre.

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Originally Posted by TheNight

Although I am aware that it is too late to change much about the plot and zones of 7.0, I urge the developers to consider carefully whether taking inspiration from FF7R is truly needed in any capacity.

Yoshi P has said that they want to do a huge collab with FF7R, more than a simple seasonal event. This rang many alarm bells, not least because the last one that we had, with Nier:Automata, presented us with a story that did not integrate with FF14's world and lore.

There are now rumors that the new expansion's story is FF7R-inspired. Although the chance is low, if this is the case: Please stop.

We do not need Fate Whispers in FF14 defending Erenville from being killed by Sephiroth.

We do not need random Sephiroth Echo flashbacks with absolutely no context through the MSQ.

We do not need Krile to begin as a flower girl but then magically tell us all about what the Whispers are out of nowhere with no explanation (although, lately Y'shtola is basically filling that role of the Great Explainer).

We do not need irrelevant and obnoxious villains like Roche who serve absolutely no purpose other than wanting to fight, because quite frankly we are sick and tired of budget Zenos clones.

We do not need to see Papalymo come back to life in another timeline because we managed to defeat the Whisper bosses as the Lv100 boss in the MSQ.

If the 7.0 MSQ is really FF7R-inspired as the rumors suggest, I guarantee you Square Enix, you will lose half of your playerbase.

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i know this is sarcasm but man....this is going to give half the playerbase an aneurism just reading what you've put. He commented about collabing with 7 remake but much further down the line if you actually listened to what he said it wouldn't be anytime soon. Also 15 did a collab with gear, mounts and a small bit of story...whats saying it cant be done here..I mean heck they did 13 lol

Keep reading those rumours though...sounds like they are having a hell of a time making them up.

I doubt they would get that deep into it. We'd get a XIV version of some significant events or characters just like we have with IV.

They do have some room to do either some sort of alternate timeline type of arc or what is happening on other shards that is similar to the Source. So they could make the ideas work that way and could be quite interesting.

If this is just based on the thing about Cosmo Canyon, that's pretty reasonable when Meracydia looks like it has a canyon. And references are references. I doubt it will be quite as elaborate as the fiends we've been fighting in the patches.

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Originally Posted by TheNight

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Ah yes, 4Chan, where all "leakers" to be believed.

The release, everyone guessed Summer.
The jobs, I'm laughing. They got away from pets and double DPS, but suddenly, 2 DPS, pet job.
"Blitzball but not in water and not call Blitzball", you got trolled hard. That's named handball or football.

Don't trust whatever people throw on internet.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

I don't really know how it can be FF7-inspired. We'd need Shinra Inc (which is the Garlean Empire in this game) but we finished them off.

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I've always since the Garlean Empire as much, much more "The Empire" from FFVI than anything else. I mean, they're a technologically-advanced society which is huge into Magitek, which was invented in FFVI and the hallmark of the Empire there.

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Originally Posted by Striker44

I've always since the Garlean Empire as much, much more "The Empire" from FFVI than anything else. I mean, they're a technologically-advanced society which is huge into Magitek, which was invented in FFVI and the hallmark of the Empire there.

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I always thought they had some Palamecian mixed in as well, since they also have normal technology.

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Originally Posted by TheNight

Although I am aware that it is too late to change much about the plot and zones of 7.0, I urge the developers to consider carefully whether taking inspiration from FF7R is truly needed in any capacity.

Yoshi P has said that they want to do a huge collab with FF7R, more than a simple seasonal event. This rang many alarm bells, not least because the last one that we had, with Nier:Automata, presented us with a story that did not integrate with FF14's world and lore.

There are now rumors that the new expansion's story is FF7R-inspired. Although the chance is low, if this is the case: Please stop.

We do not need Fate Whispers in FF14 defending Erenville from being killed by Sephiroth.

We do not need random Sephiroth Echo flashbacks with absolutely no context through the MSQ.

We do not need Krile to begin as a flower girl but then magically tell us all about what the Whispers are out of nowhere with no explanation (although, lately Y'shtola is basically filling that role of the Great Explainer).

We do not need irrelevant and obnoxious villains like Roche who serve absolutely no purpose other than wanting to fight, because quite frankly we are sick and tired of budget Zenos clones.

We do not need to see Papalymo come back to life in another timeline because we managed to defeat the Whisper bosses as the Lv100 boss in the MSQ.

If the 7.0 MSQ is really FF7R-inspired as the rumors suggest, I guarantee you Square Enix, you will lose half of your playerbase.

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what are you wafflin about

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Originally Posted by CKNovel

Ah yes, 4Chan, where all "leakers" to be believed.

The release, everyone guessed Summer.
The jobs, I'm laughing. They got away from pets and double DPS, but suddenly, 2 DPS, pet job.
"Blitzball but not in water and not call Blitzball", you got trolled hard. That's named handball or football.

Don't trust whatever people throw on internet.

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They ever stated that they got away from double dps? Because if they didn't, we'd need 1 more example to make this theory more beliavable.

I seriously doubt that would be the case my friend. Also I dont think the story is gonna take cues from FF7R without substantial evidence besides just floating fart rumors.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

If this is just based on the thing about Cosmo Canyon, that's pretty reasonable when Meracydia looks like it has a canyon. And references are references. I doubt it will be quite as elaborate as the fiends we've been fighting in the patches.

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Also, every since ARR, XIV has been extremely referential (on a superficial level) with almost every other title. It seems that they enjoy that... I particularly don't mind, since those stories tend to be their own as they develop when the reference is 'major' (i.e. 4 fiends)

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Also, every since ARR, XIV has been extremely referential (on a superficial level) with almost every other title. It seems that they enjoy that... I particularly don't mind, since those stories tend to be their own as they develop when the reference is 'major' (i.e. 4 fiends)

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While I understand people's criticisms of this game taking so much from other games. It's been very clear that FFXIV' world and tone is rooted deep in series history and as a long time FF fan I welcome it as an MMO is exactly the type of game this referential structure would be fun and interesting to implement.

I also have enjoyed more how they give old lore their own spin in a lot of ways to fit with FFXIV's world.

I appreciate this thread as an opportunity to bash FF7R. Its (non-existent) correlation to XIV is irrelevant.

I had to go back and play the original to cleanse my palate after the "remake" ending pissed me off.

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

I appreciate this thread as an opportunity to bash FF7R. Its (non-existent) correlation to XIV is irrelevant.

I had to go back and play the original to cleanse my palate after the "remake" ending pissed me off.

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le gasp! but I thought everyone loved FF7R? :O

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

le gasp! but I thought everyone loved FF7R? :O

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Absolutely not. FF7R betrayed the original FF7 to create a so-called sequel awash with Nomura and Kitase-style fanfiction that disrespects the spirit of the original FF7.

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Originally Posted by TheNight

Although I am aware that it is too late to change much about the plot and zones of 7.0, I urge the developers to consider carefully whether taking inspiration from FF7R is truly needed in any capacity.

Yoshi P has said that they want to do a huge collab with FF7R, more than a simple seasonal event. This rang many alarm bells, not least because the last one that we had, with Nier:Automata, presented us with a story that did not integrate with FF14's world and lore.

There are now rumors that the new expansion's story is FF7R-inspired. Although the chance is low, if this is the case: Please stop.

We do not need Fate Whispers in FF14 defending Erenville from being killed by Sephiroth.

We do not need random Sephiroth Echo flashbacks with absolutely no context through the MSQ.

We do not need Krile to begin as a flower girl but then magically tell us all about what the Whispers are out of nowhere with no explanation (although, lately Y'shtola is basically filling that role of the Great Explainer).

We do not need irrelevant and obnoxious villains like Roche who serve absolutely no purpose other than wanting to fight, because quite frankly we are sick and tired of budget Zenos clones.

We do not need to see Papalymo come back to life in another timeline because we managed to defeat the Whisper bosses as the Lv100 boss in the MSQ.

If the 7.0 MSQ is really FF7R-inspired as the rumors suggest, I guarantee you Square Enix, you will lose half of your playerbase.

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This thread won't change anything. The expansion is likely in the finishing stages of development. If you don't like it don't play it. Posting that the game will lose half the player base is meaningless. It simply isn't true.

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Originally Posted by Reap00

This thread won't change anything. The expansion is likely in the finishing stages of development. If you don't like it don't play it. Posting that the game will lose half the player base is meaningless. It simply isn't true.

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No one wants Sephiroth as a final boss. It is very much true that such a story would cause much revulsion among the players.

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Originally Posted by TheNight

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Ill believe it, when I see it from the Official Source
And not from some guy on an Chan Imageboard or whatever.

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Originally Posted by TheNight

No one wants Sephiroth as a final boss. It is very much true that such a story would cause much revulsion among the players.

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Originally Posted by TheNight

No one wants Sephiroth as a final boss. It is very much true that such a story would cause much revulsion among the players.

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Yeah I'm not sure. Three of the final bosses of this game have been direct FFVII references already (Ultima Weapon, which appeared in other FF but the design is the one from FFVII, Knights of the Round and Hades), and I've not read a lot of complaints about that. Since they also planned for Anima and Eden to be final bosses of 6.0 and 5.0 respectively (before plans changed), it means that outside of Endsinger, all their final bosses were references to previous games. And we know how fond CBU3 is of their patterns.
Sure, it would annoy some people but the community seems to be fine with the idea.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Ill believe it, when I see it from the Official Source
And not from some guy on an Chan Imageboard or whatever.

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We've had legit leaks from 4chan before, like the BLU leak (which also leaked Viera and Hrothgar). The whole plot of XVI was leaked months before release too.
Not saying this one is correct, but it's not outside of CBU3's scope.

There are apparently "rumours" someone found in the textools about the letter krile got was apparently from a person who has the same name as a character from ff11 and that the next expansion will be based on ff11. I wouldnt believe any rumours on where we are going until fanfest tells us.

I feel the OP needs to learn and chill a bit more. Its just a game, no use pulling your hair out over the ifs and buts. At least wait until its offically before you decide to become a vortex of doom and gloom!

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Originally Posted by TheNight

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Honestly whilst I suspect most of this is BS, I would be very happy with the Puppeteer job, its the one I have wanted ever since I started playing! Adored it in FF11.

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Originally Posted by TheNight

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OHHHHH, DREEEEEEEAMSEEEEEEKER.

I BELIEVE this is a load of rubbish. Nice fan art, at least.

So.. all wrong then.

TACO CAT SPELLED BACKWARDS IS STILL TACO CAT.
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LOL Maybe don't take things at face value my man, Especially on the chan boards.

As long as the ff7r crossover gives me Tifa's outfit, I don't care what the storyline or lore says.

Anyway, Soken versions of FFVII classics...

Maybe they could do something with the Bee club in Kholusia? It would lend itself really well to a crossover since it's a very similar establishment in both games. Would be perfect if they wanted to give us new emotes and such.